I have an E-P5 and thinking of getting an E-M10 Mark III and selling the E-P5... thoughts?

Garry Schaefer wrote:

I presume, in the last line, that you meant to type E-M10iii.

Yes - sorry!

aliasfox wrote:

RobbieBear wrote:

maltmoose wrote:

RobbieBear wrote:

maltmoose wrote:

stevenbrantley wrote:

scottyinfrisco wrote:

I haven't owned E-P5 or E-M10iii, but I had E-M1 and E-M10i, and the answer is it depends on what you're going to do with it. Everything I have read seems to point to the E-M10iii as a crippled or dumbed down camera compared to the E-m10ii, really aimed at beginners and cell phone converts. The E-P5 and EM1 are both great cameras that offer the user a ton of control. Other than 4K, not sure what you'd gain

Seriously? The new Mark III is a "dumbed down" vision of the Mark II? Considering the annotated improvements in the Mark III's focusing, menu re-alignment and other improvements mentioned by Olympus, I think your analysis is dumbed down. The E-P5 is a prior generation camera thats not even to specs to the current E-P7.

Well you would think that the em10 mkiii is far superior to the e-p5 with over 4 years of evolution but sadly theres very little in the new em10iii that demonstrates this.

there are advantages to each and the e-p5 still has some advantages over the em10iii and is over half the price of em10iii now, well mine was a few years ago..

as for the epl7, the e-p5 is better in most ways and the epl7 is an em10ii

My understanding is that the E-pl7 has the same guts as the E-M10 mark I?

yes i think thats right

So, maybe if the E-pl9 materialises, it could basically be an E-M10 ii or iii without a viewfinder?

with no built in evf and less manual controls.. and many think the em10ii is the sweet spot in value/performance

My bet is that it'll be an E-M10-3 without viewfinder, so same dumbed down menu and plastic build. It will also keep the E-PL tradition of having one control wheel.

Maybe Olympus will surprise us with something close to a GM5 in size.

You had to say it didn’t you? Just when my GM7 yearnings had receded a bit 😉

RobbieBear wrote:

aliasfox wrote:

RobbieBear wrote:

maltmoose wrote:

RobbieBear wrote:

maltmoose wrote:

stevenbrantley wrote:

scottyinfrisco wrote:

I haven't owned E-P5 or E-M10iii, but I had E-M1 and E-M10i, and the answer is it depends on what you're going to do with it. Everything I have read seems to point to the E-M10iii as a crippled or dumbed down camera compared to the E-m10ii, really aimed at beginners and cell phone converts. The E-P5 and EM1 are both great cameras that offer the user a ton of control. Other than 4K, not sure what you'd gain

Seriously? The new Mark III is a "dumbed down" vision of the Mark II? Considering the annotated improvements in the Mark III's focusing, menu re-alignment and other improvements mentioned by Olympus, I think your analysis is dumbed down. The E-P5 is a prior generation camera thats not even to specs to the current E-P7.

Well you would think that the em10 mkiii is far superior to the e-p5 with over 4 years of evolution but sadly theres very little in the new em10iii that demonstrates this.

there are advantages to each and the e-p5 still has some advantages over the em10iii and is over half the price of em10iii now, well mine was a few years ago..

as for the epl7, the e-p5 is better in most ways and the epl7 is an em10ii

My understanding is that the E-pl7 has the same guts as the E-M10 mark I?

yes i think thats right

So, maybe if the E-pl9 materialises, it could basically be an E-M10 ii or iii without a viewfinder?

with no built in evf and less manual controls.. and many think the em10ii is the sweet spot in value/performance

My bet is that it'll be an E-M10-3 without viewfinder, so same dumbed down menu and plastic build. It will also keep the E-PL tradition of having one control wheel.

Maybe Olympus will surprise us with something close to a GM5 in size.

You had to say it didn’t you? Just when my GM7 yearnings had receded a bit 😉

The GAS is strong with this one

I wouldn't worry - I don't think Olympus will put in the kind of R&D needed to shrink the Pen's shutter and IBIS system enough to bring it down to GM5 or GX850 levels. My E-PM2 is still much larger than my fiancee's GM5.

aliasfox wrote:

RobbieBear wrote:

aliasfox wrote:

RobbieBear wrote:

maltmoose wrote:

RobbieBear wrote:

maltmoose wrote:

stevenbrantley wrote:

scottyinfrisco wrote:

I haven't owned E-P5 or E-M10iii, but I had E-M1 and E-M10i, and the answer is it depends on what you're going to do with it. Everything I have read seems to point to the E-M10iii as a crippled or dumbed down camera compared to the E-m10ii, really aimed at beginners and cell phone converts. The E-P5 and EM1 are both great cameras that offer the user a ton of control. Other than 4K, not sure what you'd gain

Seriously? The new Mark III is a "dumbed down" vision of the Mark II? Considering the annotated improvements in the Mark III's focusing, menu re-alignment and other improvements mentioned by Olympus, I think your analysis is dumbed down. The E-P5 is a prior generation camera thats not even to specs to the current E-P7.

Well you would think that the em10 mkiii is far superior to the e-p5 with over 4 years of evolution but sadly theres very little in the new em10iii that demonstrates this.

there are advantages to each and the e-p5 still has some advantages over the em10iii and is over half the price of em10iii now, well mine was a few years ago..

as for the epl7, the e-p5 is better in most ways and the epl7 is an em10ii

My understanding is that the E-pl7 has the same guts as the E-M10 mark I?

yes i think thats right

So, maybe if the E-pl9 materialises, it could basically be an E-M10 ii or iii without a viewfinder?

with no built in evf and less manual controls.. and many think the em10ii is the sweet spot in value/performance

My bet is that it'll be an E-M10-3 without viewfinder, so same dumbed down menu and plastic build. It will also keep the E-PL tradition of having one control wheel.

Maybe Olympus will surprise us with something close to a GM5 in size.

You had to say it didn’t you? Just when my GM7 yearnings had receded a bit 😉

The GAS is strong with this one

I wouldn't worry - I don't think Olympus will put in the kind of R&D needed to shrink the Pen's shutter and IBIS system enough to bring it down to GM5 or GX850 levels.

GX850 size would be good but I would want the build quality of GMs and a faster flash synch speed. Contrary to the views of many here, I would be happy with the 16MP sensor.

Of course, from Oly would want IBIS and with body size don’t hold out much hope!

However, how come the really tiny Panasonic superzoom compacts manage to pack IS?

My E-PM2 is still much larger than my fiancee's GM5.

My problem is why step down from one of the top-of-the-line cameras to the second drawer? I just don't like that logic.

The one concrete gain would be a built in viewfinder and perhaps that's what's driving your interest. But then why not pick up a E-M5.2: high quality body, weather sealed (durable), excellent viewfinder and full menu access.

How much more will it cost you? It's worth looking into.

Donald B wrote:

PoohBill wrote:

Bershatsky wrote:

Is the E-M10 Mark III that much of an improvement over the E-P5?

No.

it has a vf thats worth 90 % of it being better

Only if you want a VF.

it also probably shoots 60 frames for video thats the other 10 %

Don

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