T6I vs SL2

MikeJ9116 wrote:

RedFox88 wrote:

MikeJ9116 wrote:

ZedDoctor wrote:

Can anyone make a suggestion or two on lenses to get for this.

My friend gave me his 10-18 IS STM, 24 2.8 STM, and 50 1.8 STM.

You have a very good friend as those are all excellent lenses.

I'd call them decent, not excellent. None are L and are all low end lenses. 2 sell new for less than $150 and two are ef-s mount

For their market segment they are excellent and punch well above their weight class.

A common thought among lower end camera users, honestly

Do you think that the 24-105 f4 L would be too much for it?

RedFox88 wrote:

MikeJ9116 wrote:

RedFox88 wrote:

MikeJ9116 wrote:

ZedDoctor wrote:

Can anyone make a suggestion or two on lenses to get for this.

My friend gave me his 10-18 IS STM, 24 2.8 STM, and 50 1.8 STM.

You have a very good friend as those are all excellent lenses.

I'd call them decent, not excellent. None are L and are all low end lenses. 2 sell new for less than $150 and two are ef-s mount

For their market segment they are excellent and punch well above their weight class.

A common thought among lower end camera users, honestly

... and yours is a common thought among those that think a red ring is the only way to get a decent photo.

Do you think that the 24-105 f4 L would be too much for it?

I'm curious of what you wrote.  Could you clarify?  What "common thought" are you referring to?  Who are "lower end camera users"?

MikeJ9116 wrote:

Lepewhi wrote:

The SL2 comes in white; )))

Seriously, I think if you want to do a lot of sport photography, you might want to go for the T6i, more focus points. If you do more travel photography, go for the SL2, smaller lighter. I think the sensors are similar, if not the same. So, images should be the same. Just depends on what your interests are.

The sensors aren't the same or the image processor. They each have 24mp but the SL2 has Canon's current on-chip ADC design which provides better dynamic range and lower noise at higher ISO.

No, the higher ISO isn't better with the 80D image sensor which the SL2 and T7-varieties have. Just better DR at ISO 100

Plus, the processor in the SL2 is Digic 7, Canon's latest. Also, the SL2 has much better live view performance and comes with PDAF for butter smooth AF performance in video and faster live view auto focus.

MikeJ9116 wrote:

Lepewhi wrote:

Thanks, I stand(or sit) corrected.

I do plan on getting the 200D/SL2. I'm going to wait for a while for the price to drop.

It is easy to equate Canon's first generation 24mp APS-C senor with its second generation. At a glance they look nearly identical.

I think the body only price for the SL2 might go down to $450USD and the kit to $500-$525USD eventually but it will take a while. I don't think we will see fire sales on it as it has little competition at the moment from Nikon.

And probably won't. nikon says PDAF on sensors degrades IQ so their sensors don't have it. They are foregoing autofocus in live view and in video for that!

RedFox88 wrote:

MikeJ9116 wrote:

Lepewhi wrote:

Thanks, I stand(or sit) corrected.

I do plan on getting the 200D/SL2. I'm going to wait for a while for the price to drop.

It is easy to equate Canon's first generation 24mp APS-C senor with its second generation. At a glance they look nearly identical.

I think the body only price for the SL2 might go down to $450USD and the kit to $500-$525USD eventually but it will take a while. I don't think we will see fire sales on it as it has little competition at the moment from Nikon.

And probably won't. nikon says PDAF on sensors degrades IQ so their sensors don't have it. They are foregoing autofocus in live view and in video for that!

Of course they are going to say that. It is good marketing if you don't have it. Have you seen Nikon's live view AF performance? They aren't exactly setting the world on fire with it.  They had better worry about live view performance in their DSLRs if they want to sell cameras in any volume.

RedFox88 wrote:

MikeJ9116 wrote:

Lepewhi wrote:

The SL2 comes in white; )))

Seriously, I think if you want to do a lot of sport photography, you might want to go for the T6i, more focus points. If you do more travel photography, go for the SL2, smaller lighter. I think the sensors are similar, if not the same. So, images should be the same. Just depends on what your interests are.

The sensors aren't the same or the image processor. They each have 24mp but the SL2 has Canon's current on-chip ADC design which provides better dynamic range and lower noise at higher ISO.

No, the higher ISO isn't better with the 80D image sensor which the SL2 and T7-varieties have. Just better DR at ISO 100

Got me there.  I meant to say lower ISO.

Plus, the processor in the SL2 is Digic 7, Canon's latest. Also, the SL2 has much better live view performance and comes with PDAF for butter smooth AF performance in video and faster live view auto focus.

ZedDoctor wrote:

Current Fuji user looking to add a different brand. Will be getting some glass from a friend

Mostly portrait and car photography. Occasional trains here and there.

Local store has T6I with 18-135 kit for $50 more than SL2 with 18-55.

Thoughts? Recommendations?

Get the SL2.  Better camera.  Watch the Canon web store for a deal on a 18-135 IS STM and buy it when you can afford it.  You'll be happier in the long run.

RedFox88 wrote:

MikeJ9116 wrote:

Lepewhi wrote:

The SL2 comes in white; )))

Seriously, I think if you want to do a lot of sport photography, you might want to go for the T6i, more focus points. If you do more travel photography, go for the SL2, smaller lighter. I think the sensors are similar, if not the same. So, images should be the same. Just depends on what your interests are.

The sensors aren't the same or the image processor. They each have 24mp but the SL2 has Canon's current on-chip ADC design which provides better dynamic range and lower noise at higher ISO.

No, the higher ISO isn't better with the 80D image sensor which the SL2 and T7-varieties have. Just better DR at ISO 100

Plus, the processor in the SL2 is Digic 7, Canon's latest. Also, the SL2 has much better live view performance and comes with PDAF for butter smooth AF performance in video and faster live view auto focus.

I think, all of latest crop cameras have similar high iso performance. When  I compared SL2 with 80D in TDP noise comparison, noise pattern is slightly less patchy with SL2. May be, new processor doing something little different.