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100-400mm for Travel Photography

Started Dec 13, 2017 | Questions
ButterySAM777
ButterySAM777 New Member • Posts: 3
100-400mm for Travel Photography

Hello everyone.

I've recently acquired this great lens for my FF 6D. I'm thinking about spending two weeks travelling by southern Asia (Vietnam, Myanmar).
I don't think of wild animals or birds, but I'd like start practising new techniques with a telephoto lens.

The thing is that it weights 1.700g (3,74 pounds), and I don't know if for all day hiking, visiting temples, city walks, and so on would be appropriate, or it rather will be a pain.

I also carry a 17-40mm, and a 50mm. I pick the 100-400mm above 70-200mm because I thought 70mm would not be very telephoto for a Full Frame sensor.

Thanks in advance!

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ed rader Veteran Member • Posts: 9,068
say what?

"I thought 70mm would not be very telephoto for a Full Frame sensor." what does that even mean.

I have owned 100-400 for many years but also either a 70-200 or 70-300. I much prefer 70mm to 100 for non-wildlife applications and I would definitely carry a 70-200 f4 or a 70-300 in your case.

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Dave
Dave Veteran Member • Posts: 6,231
Re: 100-400mm for Travel Photography

ButterySAM777 wrote:

Hello everyone.

I've recently acquired this great lens for my FF 6D. I'm thinking about spending two weeks travelling by southern Asia (Vietnam, Myanmar).
I don't think of wild animals or birds, but I'd like start practising new techniques with a telephoto lens.

The thing is that it weights 1.700g (3,74 pounds), and I don't know if for all day hiking, visiting temples, city walks, and so on would be appropriate, or it rather will be a pain.

I also carry a 17-40mm, and a 50mm. I pick the 100-400mm above 70-200mm because I thought 70mm would not be very telephoto for a Full Frame sensor.

Thanks in advance!

I think you are right to be concerned.  Where in Vietnam are you going?  Cambodia, too?  I know it's not your area of interest, but there was little wildlife where we went.  I only remember wanting reach for birds in Halong Bay.  One thing to consider is that air quality is often poor, making long shots iffy.  70-200 shots can always be cropped.

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Blokfluitist
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Re: 100-400mm for Travel Photography

ButterySAM777 wrote:

Hello everyone.

I've recently acquired this great lens for my FF 6D. I'm thinking about spending two weeks travelling by southern Asia (Vietnam, Myanmar).
I don't think of wild animals or birds, but I'd like start practising new techniques with a telephoto lens.

The thing is that it weights 1.700g (3,74 pounds), and I don't know if for all day hiking, visiting temples, city walks, and so on would be appropriate, or it rather will be a pain.

I also carry a 17-40mm, and a 50mm. I pick the 100-400mm above 70-200mm because I thought 70mm would not be very telephoto for a Full Frame sensor.

Thanks in advance!

Congratulations on acquiring a great lens ! But if you're not going to be taking photos of wild animals or birds I would question whether you really need to take a 100-400 to Vietnam. Yes you can use it for landscapes, but it'll be too long for city walks and visiting temples, and probably too heavy for all day hiking.

Rose

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Herb Senior Member • Posts: 1,085
ditch the small lens
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Get yourself a 24-105 as your walk around lens.   This is a great walk around lens, I use it on my 5dIV and 1DxII when we travel.  Then keep the 100-400 in your backpack for extra reach if you want extra reach.  I don’t take my 100-400 unless we are going to the Monaco Grand Prix!  Enjoy your trip!

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gavin
gavin Veteran Member • Posts: 8,242
Re: 100-400mm for Travel Photography

I used to go to Vietnam and India for work and have some long drives. I use the 100-400 on the rides to take photos of people etc.

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Dave
Dave Veteran Member • Posts: 6,231
Re: ditch the small lens

Herb wrote:

Get yourself a 24-105 as your walk around lens. This is a great walk around lens, I use it on my 5dIV and 1DxII when we travel. Then keep the 100-400 in your backpack for extra reach if you want extra reach. I don’t take my 100-400 unless we are going to the Monaco Grand Prix! Enjoy your trip!

How often do you attend the Grand Prix, an what are your preferred shooting locations?

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CameraCarl Veteran Member • Posts: 9,204
Re: 100-400mm for Travel Photography

That lens is great but I certainly would not consider it a general travel photography lens unless you are trying to isolate details in the landscape.  It is superb for wildlife and sports photography, but I never carry mine unless I know I am going to need the reach at the far end.

mikebinok
mikebinok Regular Member • Posts: 466
Re: 100-400mm for Travel Photography

I love the 100-400 for wildlife, and just replaced my battered fifteen year old copy with the Mark II version, but I don’t think of it for regular travel, I think of it as a wildlife and nature lens. When I visited Vietnam and Cambodia five years ago, I didn’t take it, but I did use a digicam with 300mm or so of reach for photos of other vessels and details of the shore while on a Mekong River cruise. The 100-400 on a DSLR would be even better of course. But it would be a bulky and heavy burden to carry around in SE Asia, and even during the travel to get there.

It is differences of opinion that make photography interesting of course, but if I wanted more telephoto for travel than a standard zoom gives, I’d probably buy a 70-200/4 with IS.

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BlueRay2 Forum Pro • Posts: 14,816
Re: 100-400mm for Travel Photography

if i was to go on the same trip, i'd take my canon 24-70 f2.8 II and a 70-200 f4.0 IS, that would be all the are both stellar lenses and light weight compared to 100-400 II and 17-40 lens. however, my most used lens by far was 17-40 f4.0 when i was traveling overseas!

beagle1 Forum Pro • Posts: 11,742
Re: 100-400mm for Travel Photography

ButterySAM777 wrote:

Hello everyone.

I've recently acquired this great lens for my FF 6D. I'm thinking about spending two weeks travelling by southern Asia (Vietnam, Myanmar).
I don't think of wild animals or birds, but I'd like start practising new techniques with a telephoto lens.

The thing is that it weights 1.700g (3,74 pounds), and I don't know if for all day hiking, visiting temples, city walks, and so on would be appropriate, or it rather will be a pain.

I also carry a 17-40mm, and a 50mm. I pick the 100-400mm above 70-200mm because I thought 70mm would not be very telephoto for a Full Frame sensor.

Thanks in advance!

definitely long and heavy for travel

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(unknown member) Regular Member • Posts: 321
Re: 100-400mm for Travel Photography

What shape are you in? Have you been there before? How are you carrying your gear? Your gear list is limited to the 100-400 on the tele side. Carry the 24-70 and pack the 100-400 in a day back pack. If you have the room and can carry the load all day , I'm assuming you will be carrying more then just the camera gear, include the 17-40. Personally I like the 24-105 for walk around as in the past the 70 has been too short for general work for me. I also assume you will not be buying anymore gear for the trip. Have a fun and safe trip.

Ken60 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,187
Re: 100-400mm for Travel Photography

The 400mm focal length, though more obviously used for reach, is about perspective... the compression of the scene. This usage is often a question of style and your asking the question suggests you are still developing yours.

I recently spent nearly two weeks in Italy with the 100-400 IS 2   in my bag. I would suggest that if you want to see the real ability of the lens you need to look at the idea of a monopod, Sirui make an affordable carbon one.  I use this lens for all sorts, it is great at close focus as well as landscapes   and knocks the socks off the 24 - 105 L that I have.

Its an important part of being you, shooting things with your focal length and style....  if we all used the same lens we would all start to look the same.

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Re: 100-400mm for Travel Photography

Good point Ken about the monopod. Too many people rely on the IS and don't consider proper camera support. I guess I'm too old school.

Rexgig0
Rexgig0 Veteran Member • Posts: 7,399
Re: 100-400mm for Travel Photography

Experiment: Try walking with your 100-400mm lens in the nearest large local city, to visit temples, churches, museums, and such. A large city is a large city, whether local or on another continent. The significant differences, regarding carrying much weight, would be elevation and slopes.

One DPR member, who posts in the Nikon section, uses a 80-400G, which is comparable to your 100-400L, a 16-35G, which is comparable to your 17-40L, and, if I recall correctly, a serious mid-range zoom, which is considerably larger and heavier than your 50mm, for quite serious travel, which includes cruises, with much walking, for hours, in cities at ports of call.

I have yet to travel with my EF 100-400L II IS, and until an upper left arm injury heals, will not use any large lens very much, so cannot yet run this experiment for myself.

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BlueRay2 Forum Pro • Posts: 14,816
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Rexgig0 wrote:

Experiment: Try walking with your 100-400mm lens in the nearest large local city, to visit temples, churches, museums, and such. A large city is a large city, whether local or on another continent. The significant differences, regarding carrying much weight, would be elevation and slopes.

One DPR member, who posts in the Nikon section, uses a 80-400G, which is comparable to your 100-400L, a 16-35G, which is comparable to your 17-40L, and, if I recall correctly, a serious mid-range zoom, which is considerably larger and heavier than your 50mm, for quite serious travel, which includes cruises, with much walking, for hours, in cities at ports of call.

I have yet to travel with my EF 100-400L II IS, and until an upper left arm injury heals, will not use any large lens very much, so cannot yet run this experiment for myself.

i visited san diego a few months ago and took both, my 24-70 f2.8 II and 100-400 II. i had my 24-70 on my camera the whole time, never touched my long 100-400! there might be a rare possibility to use a long tele lens once in a blue moon when traveling in a city but not much, in my experience!

Rexgig0
Rexgig0 Veteran Member • Posts: 7,399
Re: 100-400mm for Travel Photography

1Dx4me wrote:

Rexgig0 wrote:

Experiment: Try walking with your 100-400mm lens in the nearest large local city, to visit temples, churches, museums, and such. A large city is a large city, whether local or on another continent. The significant differences, regarding carrying much weight, would be elevation and slopes.

One DPR member, who posts in the Nikon section, uses a 80-400G, which is comparable to your 100-400L, a 16-35G, which is comparable to your 17-40L, and, if I recall correctly, a serious mid-range zoom, which is considerably larger and heavier than your 50mm, for quite serious travel, which includes cruises, with much walking, for hours, in cities at ports of call.

I have yet to travel with my EF 100-400L II IS, and until an upper left arm injury heals, will not use any large lens very much, so cannot yet run this experiment for myself.

i visited san diego a few months ago and took both, my 24-70 f2.8 II and 100-400 II. i had my 24-70 on my camera the whole time, never touched my long 100-400! there might be a rare possibility to use a long tele lens once in a blue moon when traveling in a city but not much, in my experience!

This makes sense. When I and my nephew traveled from SE Texas, across the South, to the Chesapeake Bay region, and back, in 2015, I knew we would be parking in some areas with property crime issues, and did not want to leave anything valuable inside the vehicle. I decided to take what I knew I could easily carry, which was two D700 camera bodies, a 24-70/2.8G, and an ultra-wide-angle 14-24/2.8G zoom. I rarely used the camera with the UWA zoom, except at night, and rarely wished for a telephoto, except for a few occasional birds. The 24-70/2.8 was suitable for most of the images.

In 2016, I and my nephew traveled to the Atlanta area, and I brought my Canon* 5Ds R, an EF 100/2.8L Macro IS, and EF 35/2 IS. Due to some really bad weather, we did not walk-about much in Atlanta, but the EF 35/2 IS served quite well for most of the images.

In 2017, I scheduled vacation for later in the year, and, well, we had Harvey the Hurricane, then clean-up and repairs, during which the left arm injury happened, so travel, with or without my relatively new EF 100-400L II IS, has been postponed. (I am able to get out and about, but would have to use a tripod much more, if wanting to shoot with a large tele.)

*I have not switched systems. I started with Canon, due to the fortuitous availability of a bag of pre-owned gear. I built upon the Canon foundation, and later added some Nikon gear. I still tend to use Nikon gear when anticipating much low-light shooting. My wife shoots Nikon, so we can share lenses and some other equipment.

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KWEnz Regular Member • Posts: 457
Re: 100-400mm for Travel Photography

ButterySAM777 wrote:

Hello everyone.

I've recently acquired this great lens for my FF 6D. I'm thinking about spending two weeks travelling by southern Asia (Vietnam, Myanmar).
I don't think of wild animals or birds, but I'd like start practising new techniques with a telephoto lens.

The thing is that it weights 1.700g (3,74 pounds), and I don't know if for all day hiking, visiting temples, city walks, and so on would be appropriate, or it rather will be a pain.

I also carry a 17-40mm, and a 50mm. I pick the 100-400mm above 70-200mm because I thought 70mm would not be very telephoto for a Full Frame sensor.

Thanks in advance!

My wife and I are also going to Vietnam, leaving next week for 3 weeks including four days in Singapore. In Vietnam we intend to go to Cat Tien National Park near Ho Chi Minh City for two or three days which apparently has a good variety of bird, animal, and butterfly species.  Other than the national park we will go to parks and zoos in HCHC and Singapore.

Like you, a few months ago I was also pondering whether to take my 100-400 lens but have decided to take it, with my monopod. It is a great lens, not only for wildlife and flower photography but also for tightly framed landscape and people shots.

This link in particular is what helped me make up my mind:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/60174786

For me, I'd rather have this lens with me than not having it. I am sure it will get a lot of use. My dilemma is now deciding what other lenses to take or leave behind.

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BlueRay2 Forum Pro • Posts: 14,816
Re: 100-400mm for Travel Photography

KWEnz wrote:

ButterySAM777 wrote:

Hello everyone.

I've recently acquired this great lens for my FF 6D. I'm thinking about spending two weeks travelling by southern Asia (Vietnam, Myanmar).
I don't think of wild animals or birds, but I'd like start practising new techniques with a telephoto lens.

The thing is that it weights 1.700g (3,74 pounds), and I don't know if for all day hiking, visiting temples, city walks, and so on would be appropriate, or it rather will be a pain.

I also carry a 17-40mm, and a 50mm. I pick the 100-400mm above 70-200mm because I thought 70mm would not be very telephoto for a Full Frame sensor.

Thanks in advance!

My wife and I are also going to Vietnam, leaving next week for 3 weeks including four days in Singapore. In Vietnam we intend to go to Cat Tien National Park near Ho Chi Minh City for two or three days which apparently has a good variety of bird, animal, and butterfly species. Other than the national park we will go to parks and zoos in HCHC and Singapore.

Like you, a few months ago I was also pondering whether to take my 100-400 lens but have decided to take it, with my monopod. It is a great lens, not only for wildlife and flower photography but also for tightly framed landscape and people shots.

This link in particular is what helped me make up my mind:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/60174786

For me, I'd rather have this lens with me than not having it. I am sure it will get a lot of use. My dilemma is now deciding what other lenses to take or leave behind.

if it was me, i'd decide on taking other lenses around canon 24-70 f2.8 II. depends on my activity, i'd complement my f2.8 II with a canon 70-200 f4.0 IS or 100-400 II for birding or other activities, depends if i'd be able to carry the weight

ButterySAM777
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Re: 100-400mm for Travel Photography

Thanks for your answer.

I'm actually living in Ho Chi Minh, for 3 months, work internship, so Im planning to travel from Vietnam to Myanmar or Cambodia in the next months.
I've visited Nam Cat Tien. Hiking to the Aligators lake it was like 2h one way walking. My arm was so tired carrying the 24-70mm 2.8, with the cam weighted 1.5kg (3.3pounds). I don't want to imagine such hikes, all day most than double with the 100-400mm for example.

More than nature, I am into people and compressed landscapes, I want to learn using a telephoto lens for more than sports and animals.

Btw, be careful with the leeches.

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