Color of M5...

J A C S wrote:

fstopx2 wrote:

If you dont like the colors you can modify them via the picture styles. You can either modify one of the existing picture styles, create a new one or get one off the web. There are tons of them out there that can emulate all kinds of things.

This is like saying that if you do not like your speakers, you can use an equilizer. It can only help a little.

BTW, that picture lacks warmth.

Who doesn't like options?

Actually it will help a lot. Go look at what picture styles can do. Instant Leica look if you so choose.

fstopx2 wrote:

J A C S wrote:

fstopx2 wrote:

If you dont like the colors you can modify them via the picture styles. You can either modify one of the existing picture styles, create a new one or get one off the web. There are tons of them out there that can emulate all kinds of things.

This is like saying that if you do not like your speakers, you can use an equilizer. It can only help a little.

BTW, that picture lacks warmth.

Who doesn't like options?

Actually it will help a lot. Go look at what picture styles can do.

I have been doing that for more than a decade.

One Picture profile to Rule them All:

This week I had a 1DC for a job. I had enough time mimic it's color science and port it to the M5.

I had a 1DC an M5 the fabulous CN-E50MM T1.3 L (Canon cinema lens) so I took the same picture of a color chart with same iso, exposition and light conditions.

With the eos utility I matched the colors of the 1DC to the M5, so this is the result, you can use it an edit it any way you like:

https://gofile.io/?c=gGc8KW

I'm sharing the original raws if someone wants to give it a try:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UCfMuoDVQWkuK5tq0BzZROcP4-RWC9Zq/view?usp=sharing

Cheers!

DiegoAV wrote:

One Picture profile to Rule them All:

This week I had a 1DC for a job. I had enough time mimic it's color science and port it to the M5.

I had a 1DC an M5 the fabulous CN-E50MM T1.3 L (Canon cinema lens) so I took the same picture of a color chart with same iso, exposition and light conditions.

With the eos utility I matched the colors of the 1DC to the M5, so this is the result, you can use it an edit it any way you like:

You did not match the colors (not even visibly). You run an algorithm which knows what the colors were and just replaced them with the known numbers.

https://gofile.io/?c=gGc8KW

I'm sharing the original raws if someone wants to give it a try:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UCfMuoDVQWkuK5tq0BzZROcP4-RWC9Zq/view?usp=sharing

Cheers!

J A C S wrote:

DiegoAV wrote:

One Picture profile to Rule them All:

This week I had a 1DC for a job. I had enough time mimic it's color science and port it to the M5.

I had a 1DC an M5 the fabulous CN-E50MM T1.3 L (Canon cinema lens) so I took the same picture of a color chart with same iso, exposition and light conditions.

With the eos utility I matched the colors of the 1DC to the M5, so this is the result, you can use it an edit it any way you like:

You did not match the colors (not even visibly). You run an algorithm which knows what the colors were and just replaced them with the known numbers.

https://gofile.io/?c=gGc8KW

I'm sharing the original raws if someone wants to give it a try:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UCfMuoDVQWkuK5tq0BzZROcP4-RWC9Zq/view?usp=sharing

Cheers!

The pictures you are seeing are the jpgs, not the procesed raws.

The approch was number driven not empirical (the way it should be if you ask me).

As for the algorithm there is not such process, you have to sample color by color and do the math on each value.

If you apply the 1DC picture profile to the M5 picture you get the same color results as if you shot it with a 1DC, that works for the color chart or the world...

DiegoAV wrote:

J A C S wrote:

DiegoAV wrote:

One Picture profile to Rule them All:

This week I had a 1DC for a job. I had enough time mimic it's color science and port it to the M5.

I had a 1DC an M5 the fabulous CN-E50MM T1.3 L (Canon cinema lens) so I took the same picture of a color chart with same iso, exposition and light conditions.

With the eos utility I matched the colors of the 1DC to the M5, so this is the result, you can use it an edit it any way you like:

You did not match the colors (not even visibly). You run an algorithm which knows what the colors were and just replaced them with the known numbers.

https://gofile.io/?c=gGc8KW

I'm sharing the original raws if someone wants to give it a try:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UCfMuoDVQWkuK5tq0BzZROcP4-RWC9Zq/view?usp=sharing

Cheers!

The pictures you are seeing are the jpgs, not the procesed raws.

The approch was number driven not empirical (the way it should be if you ask me).

As for the algorithm there is not such process, you have to sample color by color and do the math on each value.

This is an algorithm. The patches have a very limited range of spectral densities known to the software. The algorithm is to interpolate between them, and hopefully to match the colors in other situations somehow.

If you apply the 1DC picture profile to the M5 picture you get the same color results as if you shot it with a 1DC, that works for the color chart or the world...

No, this works for this particular chart in a trivial way - the colors are known. It would not work in all situations if there is visible metamerism between the two sensors.

J A C S wrote:

DiegoAV wrote:

J A C S wrote:

DiegoAV wrote:

One Picture profile to Rule them All:

This week I had a 1DC for a job. I had enough time mimic it's color science and port it to the M5.

I had a 1DC an M5 the fabulous CN-E50MM T1.3 L (Canon cinema lens) so I took the same picture of a color chart with same iso, exposition and light conditions.

With the eos utility I matched the colors of the 1DC to the M5, so this is the result, you can use it an edit it any way you like:

You did not match the colors (not even visibly). You run an algorithm which knows what the colors were and just replaced them with the known numbers.

https://gofile.io/?c=gGc8KW

I'm sharing the original raws if someone wants to give it a try:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UCfMuoDVQWkuK5tq0BzZROcP4-RWC9Zq/view?usp=sharing

Cheers!

The pictures you are seeing are the jpgs, not the procesed raws.

The approch was number driven not empirical (the way it should be if you ask me).

As for the algorithm there is not such process, you have to sample color by color and do the math on each value.

This is an algorithm. The patches have a very limited range of spectral densities known to the software. The algorithm is to interpolate between them, and hopefully to match the colors in other situations somehow.

If you apply the 1DC picture profile to the M5 picture you get the same color results as if you shot it with a 1DC, that works for the color chart or the world...

No, this works for this particular chart in a trivial way - the colors are known. It would not work in all situations if there is visible metamerism between the two sensors.

Sorry I don't get your point... I have the habit of not getting in arguments with strangers on Internet.

For those who are interested in getting a good color profile on the M5:

I tried today the Picture Style in a real life situation, Fun Fair and open air kids theater. Meaning lots of skin tones and rich color decorations. I cannot post any pictures because there are children in them (including mine).

I found out the 1DC picture style needs some in camera adjustments.

This is what worked better for me (this totally my taste).

Sharpness Strength: 2

Sharpness Fineness: 4

Shapness Threshold: 4

Contrast: -3

Saturation: 3

Color Tone: -3

Hope you find it usefull.

Cheers!

DiegoAV wrote:

J A C S wrote:

DiegoAV wrote:

J A C S wrote:

DiegoAV wrote:

One Picture profile to Rule them All:

This week I had a 1DC for a job. I had enough time mimic it's color science and port it to the M5.

I had a 1DC an M5 the fabulous CN-E50MM T1.3 L (Canon cinema lens) so I took the same picture of a color chart with same iso, exposition and light conditions.

With the eos utility I matched the colors of the 1DC to the M5, so this is the result, you can use it an edit it any way you like:

You did not match the colors (not even visibly). You run an algorithm which knows what the colors were and just replaced them with the known numbers.

https://gofile.io/?c=gGc8KW

I'm sharing the original raws if someone wants to give it a try:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UCfMuoDVQWkuK5tq0BzZROcP4-RWC9Zq/view?usp=sharing

Cheers!

The pictures you are seeing are the jpgs, not the procesed raws.

The approch was number driven not empirical (the way it should be if you ask me).

As for the algorithm there is not such process, you have to sample color by color and do the math on each value.

This is an algorithm. The patches have a very limited range of spectral densities known to the software. The algorithm is to interpolate between them, and hopefully to match the colors in other situations somehow.

If you apply the 1DC picture profile to the M5 picture you get the same color results as if you shot it with a 1DC, that works for the color chart or the world...

No, this works for this particular chart in a trivial way - the colors are known. It would not work in all situations if there is visible metamerism between the two sensors.

Sorry I don't get your point... I have the habit of not getting in arguments with strangers on Internet.

This is not an argument. I am just telling you how profiling works.