A simple impression on EOS M5

A simple impression on EOS M5

1. Good AF acquisition. This was the top reason to get M5. However, it is not fast
enough in tracking for sports. It is okay for slow back/forward movements, while
it has difficulty tracking random movements.

2. Many dedicated, customizable controls are very welcome. The second concern
when I moved from the original M. It will take some time for me to get used to
them all.

3. The overall use of EVF is pleasing. The third reason for my getting M5. Smooth
and clear. Better than I expected. I wished a bigger magnification, but it looks
suitable. One thing I am disappointed with is that EVF's look is different from that
of LCD. It is a little more saturated.

4. Touch & drag with EVF is a great, fun feature. However, touching LCD directly
is easier and instant. Clearview that I am using with M is still useful thanks to its
bigger view and M5's beautiful LCD, but a little annoying due to auto EVF
recognition. Is there any way to turn off EVF? http://www.clearviewer.com/Products.html

5. Fast shutter, but the shutter lag is still easy to notice especially through EVF
review with focus points right after shooting, which is one of the features I like.
By the way, the shutter sound is not my taste.

6. MF operation is doing well with magnification and peaking. It is very enjoyable
and certainly better than nothing, but I do not know how much both are really
useful. Magnified view is shaky and does not produce a clear peaking line. Fine
tuning after AF seems difficult and useless.

7. Body material consists of metal + plastic + rubber. I am okay with plastic, but
the rubber cover is easily worn out. Body feeling is not so much solid as creaky.
At this point, the original M, which has a solid metal construction, is better than
M5.

8. Its grip is but could have been better. I love Richard Franiec's
the original M. http://www.kleptography.com/rf/#camera_eosm

9. Image Stabilization. I do not understand why Canon wants IS to be ON always
for EF/EF-S lenses since M3. This is a clear design mistake.

10. Still slow operation unlike DSLR, especially for waking up and transition
between menus, modes, and controls.

11. Beautiful LCD, which is not swiveling but tilted. I would like to use EVF rather
than LCD. Is there a way to turn off LCD always except touch & drag operation?

12. M5 is advertised as Flagship, but its minimum shutter speed is 1/4000 and
sync speed 1/200? No weather sealing? Perhaps it is because there is no weather
sealed EF-M lens yet. Maybe never happens.

13. It has a built-in flash. I doubt any chance for me to use it.

14. Wifi, Bluetooth, NFC. Not used yet. Wifi transfer to my phone looks
awesome.

15. Misc.
No anti-flicker
No way to set the minimum shutter speed.
No 4K video. For me, it is not a problem because I am not a video guy.
No internal GPS. Sorry, but not important.
I wish M5 had sRAW/mRAW, a longer battery life, and digital zoom.

In total, M5 is introduced as a little DSLR, but it looks something like a DSLR
emulator because of its slow reaction and clumsy control. However, it is fun to
shoot because of its compactness with Canon DSLR image quality and many
enjoyable control options. Despite some shortcomings, it is satisfying my wants in
many ways. M5 will not replace my original M but come along as its wonderful
brother!

J Peters wrote:

Hi, I am typing this on my phone so I can't easily put in references to the manual. But there is a Display option on tab 1 of the setup menu. You can change toggling from LCD to EVF to manual. That will stop the automatic feature where the EVF turns on or off depending whether you are looking through it.

If you literally never want to use the LCD you can set EVF to be ON in that same menu and leave it set that way. Otherwise you can program one of the buttons (I use M-Fn) to toggle between the two displays.

Be aware that anything detected by the sensor (like your clothing or the inside of your bag) will keep the evf on and will stop the camera going into sleep mode. Either wait for the camera to sleep before putting it in a bag or hoster or turn it off with the switch.

Thank you. I found the option to control LCD/EVF manually.

For LCD only mode, I have no problem with it. However, the operation of EVF is a little bit nervous.

In the sense that LCD is never on, it looks fine. But there seems no good way to turn off EVF. Regretfully, the function "Turn off screen" works only for LCD. Yes, there is a time-out option, but it is easily turned on unintentionally only if something comes near it. As a matter of fact, the problem is not a way of turning off, but on. I wish there is an option for a manual way to wake up EVF, rather than turning on by automatic detection. This option will be helpful even in automatic control between LCD/EVF.

Is the only solution to prevent EVF from being on unintentionally to turn off the
hardware itself?

nnowak wrote:

lumenite wrote:

A simple impression on EOS M5

9. Image Stabilization. I do not understand why Canon wants IS to be ON always
for EF/EF-S lenses since M3. This is a clear design mistake.

This is due partially to the mechanical differences between EF-M lenses and EF/EF-S lenses.

When turned off, the IS system parks and holds position on an EF/EF-S lens. The IS system in the EF-M lenses is built differently. Without power, the IS mechanism just flops around. Even if your "turn off" IS for an EF-M lens, the IS system is still powered and active just to hold the mechanism in a fixed position.

Whether it is sloppy software or cheap hardware, an M camera is always sending power to the IS system no matter if it is "on" or "off". The only thing actually changing is whether the IS actuators are being commanded to move or hold.

However, what we regret is that the original M works fine. Something has changed since M3.

In addition to IS operation, AF/MF switch works differently between EF-M and EF/EF-S. It is perhaps because EF/EF-S lenses have dedicated hardware switches for them, but EF-M lenses have no external switches as you implied.