Canon 6D MKII or 5D MK IV - Decision made.

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After a lot of thought and discussions here (thanks every one), with today being a significant birthday and having received confirmation that the bonus I was waiting for is on its way, I went ahead and ordered a refurbished 5D MK IV from Canon this morning.

There is "only" a $700 difference between the two - and I know that I'd be disappointed with the focus point spread and lack of high ISO improvements on the new 6D compared to my MK1 (which is was also bought refurbished). So, it was either buy the 5D or wait a year and see what comes out - making the decision easy.

I made a deal with my wife that I would sell one of my old bodies: 10D, 40D, 7D (original), SL1, and 6D (original). I will certainly keep the SL1 for travel, I use the 40D for time lapse with an AC cord and remote, so that leaves the 10D (not worth much at all), 7D, or 6D. But that's to think about after my new toy, I meant tool, arrives!

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I kept my 10D and 40D because they are not worth much on the second hand market.

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HarryLally Senior Member • Posts: 2,656
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Congratulations. Enjoy it. I'm in a similar situation to the one you were in, prevaricating over the 5DIV v 6DII. I can afford the 5DIV but am having trouble justifying buying it as I don't really do all that much photography these days. Just really on my travels. In fact, I've been quite happy with the 6D and don't really need to replace it. Ah, decisions, decisions. Good luck with your new toy/tool.

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Jeff Peterman wrote:

After a lot of thought and discussions here (thanks every one), with today being a significant birthday and having received confirmation that the bonus I was waiting for is on its way, I went ahead and ordered a refurbished 5D MK IV from Canon this morning.

There is "only" a $700 difference between the two - and I know that I'd be disappointed with the focus point spread and lack of high ISO improvements on the new 6D compared to my MK1 (which is was also bought refurbished). So, it was either buy the 5D or wait a year and see what comes out - making the decision easy.

I made a deal with my wife that I would sell one of my old bodies: 10D, 40D, 7D (original), SL1, and 6D (original). I will certainly keep the SL1 for travel, I use the 40D for time lapse with an AC cord and remote, so that leaves the 10D (not worth much at all), 7D, or 6D. But that's to think about after my new toy, I meant tool, arrives!

A real upgrade from 6D MkI ! If the price difference was "only" 700 the new and clearly better 5DIV  is worth it.

The only nice thing from 6DMkII  that 5DMkIV does not have is the more usable tilting LCD/liveview shooting

I'm still using my 6D and 80D - the upgrade to 5D MkIV could be too much  or unnecessary for my skill level and needs,

Anyway, you made the right decision IMO. A good camera is better than "nice" - 6DMkII is just a nice camera

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Alben Regular Member • Posts: 356
Re: Canon 6D MKII or 5D MK IV - Decision made.

Enjoy the Mk 4, I do, you will love it.

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Jeff Peterman wrote:

After a lot of thought and discussions here (thanks every one), with today being a significant birthday and having received confirmation that the bonus I was waiting for is on its way, I went ahead and ordered a refurbished 5D MK IV from Canon this morning.

There is "only" a $700 difference between the two - and I know that I'd be disappointed with the focus point spread and lack of high ISO improvements on the new 6D compared to my MK1 (which is was also bought refurbished). So, it was either buy the 5D or wait a year and see what comes out - making the decision easy.

I made a deal with my wife that I would sell one of my old bodies: 10D, 40D, 7D (original), SL1, and 6D (original). I will certainly keep the SL1 for travel, I use the 40D for time lapse with an AC cord and remote, so that leaves the 10D (not worth much at all), 7D, or 6D. But that's to think about after my new toy, I meant tool, arrives!

How is there only a $700 difference? 6D ii used is about $1600 on the low end and $2000 new. The 5d iv is around $2,900 used to $3,700 new. That's somewhere between $1,300 t0 $1,700 of a difference, and enough to buy a few good L lenses, or one of Canon's best L lenses period.

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I'm buying refurbished from Canon, not used, so that I get the full 1 year factory warranty. They don't have the 6D MKII, so it would have to be new - at $2000. The refurbished 5D MKIV is $2799 - so OK, $800, not $700. But I get a free "Miniature EOS 5D Mark IV 24-70 Kit and the SDHC CARD 32GB" too!

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Jeff Peterman wrote:

I'm buying refurbished from Canon, not used, so that I get the full 1 year factory warranty. They don't have the 6D MKII, so it would have to be new - at $2000. The refurbished 5D MKIV is $2799 - so OK, $800, not $700. But I get a free "Miniature EOS 5D Mark IV 24-70 Kit and the SDHC CARD 32GB" too!

What is "Miniature EOS 5D Mark IV 24-70 Kit? Enjoy the new camera!

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You will love it. My first pano with it or any camera. 6 frames hand held.

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What is "Miniature EOS 5D Mark IV 24-70 Kit?

No idea.

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Zeee wrote:

You will love it. My first pano with it or any camera. 6 frames hand held.

Does the camera do the stitching? Nice photo!

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Battersea wrote:

Zeee wrote:

You will love it. My first pano with it or any camera. 6 frames hand held.

Does the camera do the stitching? Nice photo!

No that was photo shop and I have no idea what I'm doing. I had to crop a little for corners that it could not fit.

Here is a single frame.

This was with my 100-400 II and 1.4 III

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Jeff Peterman wrote:

After a lot of thought and discussions here (thanks every one), with today being a significant birthday and having received confirmation that the bonus I was waiting for is on its way, I went ahead and ordered a refurbished 5D MK IV from Canon this morning.

There is "only" a $700 difference between the two - and I know that I'd be disappointed with the focus point spread and lack of high ISO improvements on the new 6D compared to my MK1 (which is was also bought refurbished). So, it was either buy the 5D or wait a year and see what comes out - making the decision easy.

I made a deal with my wife that I would sell one of my old bodies: 10D, 40D, 7D (original), SL1, and 6D (original). I will certainly keep the SL1 for travel, I use the 40D for time lapse with an AC cord and remote, so that leaves the 10D (not worth much at all), 7D, or 6D. But that's to think about after my new toy, I meant tool, arrives!

Congratulations! Very good choice!

The 5DMIV has helped made me a better photographer simply because I do not have to focus and recompose anymore, as I had been habitually doing with the 6D. Now I can be very creative yet confident I can nail the focus, among other things.

Keep your wide lenses, they will be very useful when you do 4k video due to the cropping

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My 24-105 STM lens should be great for video - and I guess I could try the 17-40 to compensate for the crop.

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Zeee wrote:

Battersea wrote:

Zeee wrote:

You will love it. My first pano with it or any camera. 6 frames hand held.

Does the camera do the stitching? Nice photo!

No that was photo shop and I have no idea what I'm doing. I had to crop a little for corners that it could not fit.

Here is a single frame.

This was with my 100-400 II and 1.4 III

Looks as though you might have used a polarizer when you shot your pano images.  Better off without.

The dark sky in the middle of image is the tip off.

JD

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jadphoto wrote:

Zeee wrote:

Battersea wrote:

Zeee wrote:

You will love it. My first pano with it or any camera. 6 frames hand held.

Does the camera do the stitching? Nice photo!

No that was photo shop and I have no idea what I'm doing. I had to crop a little for corners that it could not fit.

Here is a single frame.

This was with my 100-400 II and 1.4 III

Looks as though you might have used a polarizer when you shot your pano images. Better off without.

The dark sky in the middle of image is the tip off.

JD

Yes I noticed that as well. I thought it was due to not setting up a manual exposure, which you should but I never thought of the polarizer. Thanks for the tip! Will do next time.

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Except that the reflection on the lake is also darker, and the polarizer settings for the sky should not have darkened the refelection.

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Hmm, so I was wrong - but again, why was the reflection darkened?

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Jeff Peterman wrote:

Hmm, so I was wrong - but again, why was the reflection darkened?

I don't know. I first suspected that I shot with aperture priority and I should set it up in manual so the exposures where equal.

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When I checked the shipping status this morning, I saw a note on the Canon Website saying 15% off select refurbished products today with a code. I called Canon, and they said that the code is good until the 31st, and that I should call once I have my order in my hands (expected tomorrow, the 27th) and they will honor the discount and refund roughly $400 to my account. So, a 5D MKIV for only $400 more than a 6D MKII.

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