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cogwheel New Member • Posts: 7
Panasonic GH5 with Godox tt350o flash

Does anyone know if the GH5 is fully compatible with the Godox tt350o .

Have looked at the Godox web site and it does not list the GH5 although they do list the

G85/G80 and the GH4 as compatible .

I don't want to invest in two flash guns and a trigger if they don't work out out the box so to speak .

Thanks .

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kli
kli Veteran Member • Posts: 4,594
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cogwheel wrote:

Does anyone know if the GH5 is fully compatible with the Godox tt350o .

I don't, but I use one on a GX7, which also isn't on the compatibility list. In some ways it works terrific. In others... um... well...

Have looked at the Godox web site and it does not list the GH5 although they do list the

G85/G80 and the GH4 as compatible .

The list is basically the gear they had in-house to test with, not necessarily a complete compatibility list.

I don't want to invest in two flash guns and a trigger if they don't work out out the box so to speak .

It kind of depends on your definition of works.  Panasonic users seem to be having a slightly harder time, particularly with HSS function, than Olympus users with the Godox -O gear.  It's the perfect size/weight for my GX7.

My TT350-O works perfectly on-camera with my GX7. TTL, HSS, 2nd curtain, S1/S2, etc. all work as expected. My only big complaint is that it only swivels 270º.

As an on-camera transmitter with TT600 units as slaves, everything works perfectly. Remote power control and HSS are flawless. However, as a YN-622 user, I note that there's no remote zoom control, and no setting groups into MULTI mode remotely.

As an on-camera transmitter with a TT685C (I also shoot Canon) with upgraded firmware and in OLPS (Olympus) slave mode, however, the picture is muddier. If I use the combination indoors or in low light outdoors, everything works. If I then move this working combination to bright light (near a window, outside in sunny-16), everything goes to hell in a handbasket. TTL fires out of sync, and HSS refuses to fire at all. In M and out of HSS, remote power control and firing work fine. [facepalm]. Same behavior with my G3.

As a slave unit, it cannot do cross-brand TTL. So, using my TT685C as master on a 5DMkII and the TT350-O as slave meant that if I set TTL, it would only fire at full power. M mode power control and HSS worked fine. My iPhone+A1 can also control its power remotely, but obviously, without HSS or TTL function.

My recommendation is if you want it as an on-camera flash, don't hesitate. If you want it as an on-camera transmitter, consider getting an X1T-O or wait for the XPro-O. If you want it only as an off-camera slave, I'd recommend a TT600 instead, because it's cheaper and has more power and because Idon't have HSS issues with it. But. YMMV.

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OP cogwheel New Member • Posts: 7
Re: Panasonic GH5 with Godox tt350o flash

Kli ,

Thanks for you're in depth reply and advice .

kli
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You're welcome. I do hasten to add that I have no experience with using the TT685-O with a TT350-O or an X1T-O.  All reports are that the X1T-O is a better on-camera trigger.

If this is primarily for off camera use, and you can wait on getting the gear until the end of the year, it might be worthwhile to wait on an XPro-O getting released.

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OP cogwheel New Member • Posts: 7
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Thanks again ... yes I should wait

I'm a retired photographer used to using film and studio lighting  , I have  worked with the odd speed-light but not for serious work ...i'm still learning

Best regards

kli
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Re: Panasonic GH5 with Godox tt350o flash

cogwheel wrote:

Thanks again ... yes I should wait

I'm a retired photographer used to using film and studio lighting , I have worked with the odd speed-light but not for serious work ...i'm still learning

Most of us who do off-camera flash with speedlights do so because of the Strobist. It's mostly about cost and convenience, and starting out with what you have. A lot of usalready had a speedlight in the bag.  And a speedlight can be used both on and off camera. The portability of working with speedlights is the other advantage to weigh against the much lower power and smaller size of the light.

If you're more used to/comfortable with studio strobes and would prefer those to speedlights for the work you do, they also exist in the Godox X system. And they also have battery-powered barebulb flashes and studio strobes.

You could also look at the bigger-than speedlight options, like the AD200 (bare bulb flash), or the SK II series of monolights (which are pretty much in speedlight price territory).

The SK II, DP II, QS iI, and QT II Godox plug-in strobes all have built-in receivers for the X-system. None of them do TTL, the QT II can do HSS. But all of them can have their power remotely controlled from an X transmitter unit.

The Godox one-system-to-rule-them-all approach is their main attraction. Well, that and the low pricetags. [grin].

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Re: Panasonic GH5 with Godox tt350o flash

I'm new to MFT and own a EM1.2

Having said that I just bought a Flashpoint (Godox made but sold by Adorama) R2 T "O" and two R2 Zoom "O" TTL strobes. I have not yet tried high speed flash but am very pleased with this true 'wireless' system as opposed to the Infra Red systems (low range and difficult in bright light) systems.

The controller and strobes are very easy to set up and so far have proved very accurate in ttl mode and as measured by my Sekonic Flashmate L-308S-U. (a must have in my opinion although I resisted for years)

I think this system is much better than the fabled Nikon CLS system which I have previously used. Godox is sold by B and H. I have heard though that Adorama give great after sales support on Flaspoint. This from someone who buys a lotof stuff from B and H.

Godox directly support the Godox Brand stuff and can be slow so I have heard

Brian

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rogerArgentina New Member • Posts: 3
Re: Panasonic GH5 with Godox tt350o flash

I own a panasonic gh5 camera, two godox tt685 flashes and a nissin di700a. no failure or is wrong. except that the focus assistance is not present. the rest is going well. ps I also have two panasonic g85 and the same thing happens

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Do you think the lack of focus assist with the X1T-O is a Godox issue or an Olympus issue? I have an EM1-2. The Canon and Nikon version of the Z1T have focus assist, so I'm wondering if Olympus/Panasonic don't support it or Godox hasn't gotten around to implementing it.

Low light focus is an issue. When the Olympus has a flash unit on it the focus assist light appears to be inactive (although it appears to come on every now and then).

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rjensen11 wrote:

Do you think the lack of focus assist with the X1T-O is a Godox issue or an Olympus issue?

Both?

Godox/Yongnuo/other cheap Chinese flash gear tends to be initially reverse-engineered off Canon, and then adapted for other platforms. If the adapted platform doesn't work the way Canon does, there can be issues or they can just drop the feature for that platform.

For example, the TT685 -C/-N/-S versions can be "smart" optical slave/master units. But the TT685-O can't do RC master/slave.

Given that the FL600R's AF assist is an LED on the front of the flash, while the Canon AF assist is a light grid below the front red panel along with the sensors, I'm gathering that the AF assist communication is different enough to exclude just using the Canon reverse engineering.

There's also the fact that the FL600R's AF assist doesn't work on older micro four-thirds bodies, indicating Olympus or Panasonic may have changed the hotshoe protocol midstream. And whether or not those changes were included in any documentation they have of the hotshoe "standard" that a 3rd party could use to develop from is in question. Even with the Canon Godox gear, the AF assist works great—unless you have a 5DMkIV. So it appears Canon silently changed the hotshoe protocol again. In other words, Godox may be trying to hit a moving target, with no information on where/how/when it moved.

While Godox could develop AF assist function for four-thirds, the more variants they stick in for the different flavors, the more engineering/maintenance they have to do. Given that Canon users are still the biggest percentage of their market, and that MFT users probably come in number four on the list, it may not be enough to justify the cost involved in getting AF-assist to work on all systems.

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TT350, V860II, X1 & GX7 plus RF interference

kli wrote:

cogwheel wrote:

Does anyone know if the GH5 is fully compatible with the Godox tt350o .

I don't, but I use one on a GX7, which also isn't on the compatibility list. In some ways it works terrific. In others... um... well...

Have looked at the Godox web site and it does not list the GH5 although they do list the

G85/G80 and the GH4 as compatible .

The list is basically the gear they had in-house to test with, not necessarily a complete compatibility list.

I don't want to invest in two flash guns and a trigger if they don't work out out the box so to speak .

It kind of depends on your definition of works. Panasonic users seem to be having a slightly harder time, particularly with HSS function, than Olympus users with the Godox -O gear. It's the perfect size/weight for my GX7.

My TT350-O works perfectly on-camera with my GX7. TTL, HSS, 2nd curtain, S1/S2, etc. all work as expected. My only big complaint is that it only swivels 270º.

As an on-camera transmitter with TT600 units as slaves, everything works perfectly. Remote power control and HSS are flawless. However, as a YN-622 user, I note that there's no remote zoom control, and no setting groups into MULTI mode remotely.

As an on-camera transmitter with a TT685C (I also shoot Canon) with upgraded firmware and in OLPS (Olympus) slave mode, however, the picture is muddier. If I use the combination indoors or in low light outdoors, everything works. If I then move this working combination to bright light (near a window, outside in sunny-16), everything goes to hell in a handbasket. TTL fires out of sync, and HSS refuses to fire at all. In M and out of HSS, remote power control and firing work fine. [facepalm]. Same behavior with my G3.

As a slave unit, it cannot do cross-brand TTL. So, using my TT685C as master on a 5DMkII and the TT350-O as slave meant that if I set TTL, it would only fire at full power. M mode power control and HSS worked fine. My iPhone+A1 can also control its power remotely, but obviously, without HSS or TTL function.

My recommendation is if you want it as an on-camera flash, don't hesitate. If you want it as an on-camera transmitter, consider getting an X1T-O or wait for the XPro-O. If you want it only as an off-camera slave, I'd recommend a TT600 instead, because it's cheaper and has more power and because Idon't have HSS issues with it. But. YMMV.

I bookmarked this post and found it helpful as I was considering TT350 and V860II for my GX7. So now I'll add an odd finding for discussion and consideration. First, working in a large urban hotel, I've found radio interference from nearby wifi, wireless mics, and God knows what else to seriously decrease the range and also make triggering very unreliable - like, only 20% success in a medium conference room. This is with Adorama's Zoom Mini (TT350) on-camera and a pair of Zoom Li-on R2s (V860II) on stands. On the theory that it would have greater radio power than the Zoom Mini, I got an R2 (X1). That had no problem triggering a pair of Zoom Li-ons 100' away in a large ballroom.

However, testing at home shows that a shutter press on my GX7 with R2 mounted will trigger the Zoom Li-Ions only if the camera is in AFF or AFC mode, not in AFS. Weird. All firmware is up-to-date. One Zoom Li-on can trigger the other in any AF mode, so this odd behavior is unique to the R2.

FWIW, at home, the Zoom Mini reliably triggers the Zoom Li-ons in any AF mode.

My old 433MHz R1 triggers always worked perfectly - though they don't support TTL - so these will be my Plan B for high-interference situations until the R2 can be made to work properly and reliably with all my GX7's AF modes.

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Re: TT350, V860II, X1 & GX7 plus RF interference

Jacques Cornell wrote:

... working in a large urban hotel, I've found radio interference from nearby wifi, wireless mics, and God knows what else to seriously decrease the range and also make triggering very unreliable - like, only 20% success in a medium conference room. This is with Adorama's Zoom Mini (TT350) on-camera and a pair of Zoom Li-on R2s (V860II) on stands. On the theory that it would have greater radio power than the Zoom Mini, I got an R2 (X1). That had no problem triggering a pair of Zoom Li-ons 100' away in a large ballroom.

Interesting. It's pretty clear the X1T is all around a better transmitter unit to use than the TT350.

I posited a theory on POTN that the use of the new wireless ID code feature might help with RF interference, but was pretty much voted down by more tech-savvy voices.  They're probably right.

However, testing at home shows that a shutter press on my GX7 with R2 mounted will trigger the Zoom Li-Ions only if the camera is in AFF or AFC mode, not in AFS. Weird. All firmware is up-to-date. One Zoom Li-on can trigger the other in any AF mode, so this odd behavior is unique to the R2.

That is weird.  I'd mention it to brands@adorama.com (Flashpoint support).  They may just send you the email reply equivalent of a shrug, but at least they'd know.

FWIW, at home, the Zoom Mini reliably triggers the Zoom Li-ons in any AF mode.

My old 433MHz R1 triggers always worked perfectly - though they don't support TTL - so these will be my Plan B for high-interference situations until the R2 can be made to work properly and reliably with all my GX7's AF modes.

I'm hoping that they're working on fixes for the -O triggers. The fact that all the other flavors have had XPro transmitters either released on listed for pre-order at Adorama, but that there's been complete radio silence on the XPro-O is making me think they've had to go back to the drawing board to more completely suss out the four-thirds hotshoe protocol or Panasonic variants of the same.

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rjensen11 wrote:

Do you think the lack of focus assist with the X1T-O is a Godox issue or an Olympus issue? I have an EM1-2. The Canon and Nikon version of the Z1T have focus assist, so I'm wondering if Olympus/Panasonic don't support it or Godox hasn't gotten around to implementing it.

Low light focus is an issue. When the Olympus has a flash unit on it the focus assist light appears to be inactive (although it appears to come on every now and then).

I recently bought the T350 to use on my E-M1, using the AF assist from the camera body seems to work fine, I can focus on objects in low light easily while using the flash.

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Re: TT350, V860II, X1 & GX7 plus RF interference

kli wrote:

Jacques Cornell wrote:

... working in a large urban hotel, I've found radio interference from nearby wifi, wireless mics, and God knows what else to seriously decrease the range and also make triggering very unreliable - like, only 20% success in a medium conference room. This is with Adorama's Zoom Mini (TT350) on-camera and a pair of Zoom Li-on R2s (V860II) on stands. On the theory that it would have greater radio power than the Zoom Mini, I got an R2 (X1). That had no problem triggering a pair of Zoom Li-ons 100' away in a large ballroom.

Interesting. It's pretty clear the X1T is all around a better transmitter unit to use than the TT350.

I posited a theory on POTN that the use of the new wireless ID code feature might help with RF interference, but was pretty much voted down by more tech-savvy voices. They're probably right.

However, testing at home shows that a shutter press on my GX7 with R2 mounted will trigger the Zoom Li-Ions only if the camera is in AFF or AFC mode, not in AFS. Weird. All firmware is up-to-date. One Zoom Li-on can trigger the other in any AF mode, so this odd behavior is unique to the R2.

That is weird. I'd mention it to brands@adorama.com (Flashpoint support). They may just send you the email reply equivalent of a shrug, but at least they'd know.

FWIW, at home, the Zoom Mini reliably triggers the Zoom Li-ons in any AF mode.

My old 433MHz R1 triggers always worked perfectly - though they don't support TTL - so these will be my Plan B for high-interference situations until the R2 can be made to work properly and reliably with all my GX7's AF modes.

I'm hoping that they're working on fixes for the -O triggers. The fact that all the other flavors have had XPro transmitters either released on listed for pre-order at Adorama, but that there's been complete radio silence on the XPro-O is making me think they've had to go back to the drawing board to more completely suss out the four-thirds hotshoe protocol or Panasonic variants of the same.

I've been in touch with a knowledgeable and helpful guy at Adorama who's an event shooter himself and Adorama's lead rep for Flashpoint flash gear. He's been very interested in my observations, and I get the impression he'll be passing the info to engineers for firmware fixes.

FWIW, the XPro is useless to me for event work because it lacks a hotshoe for mounting a TTL flash on the camera.

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Jacques Cornell wrote:

... FWIW, the XPro is useless to me for event work because it lacks a hotshoe for mounting a TTL flash on the camera.

Godox probably thinks this will get you to use a TT685 or V860II as the on-camera RF master.    If only the speedlights were as functional as RF masters as the X1T/XPro...

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Re: TT350, V860II, X1 & GX7 plus RF interference

kli wrote:

Jacques Cornell wrote:

... FWIW, the XPro is useless to me for event work because it lacks a hotshoe for mounting a TTL flash on the camera.

Godox probably thinks this will get you to use a TT685 or V860II as the on-camera RF master. If only the speedlights were as functional as RF masters as the X1T/XPro...

I’m happy with the TT350/Zoom Mini as master when there isn’t crippling RF interference around.

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Re: TT350, V860II, X1 & GX7 plus RF interference

Jacques Cornell wrote:

kli wrote:

cogwheel wrote:

Does anyone know if the GH5 is fully compatible with the Godox tt350o .

I don't, but I use one on a GX7, which also isn't on the compatibility list. In some ways it works terrific. In others... um... well...

Have looked at the Godox web site and it does not list the GH5 although they do list the

G85/G80 and the GH4 as compatible .

The list is basically the gear they had in-house to test with, not necessarily a complete compatibility list.

I don't want to invest in two flash guns and a trigger if they don't work out out the box so to speak .

It kind of depends on your definition of works. Panasonic users seem to be having a slightly harder time, particularly with HSS function, than Olympus users with the Godox -O gear. It's the perfect size/weight for my GX7.

My TT350-O works perfectly on-camera with my GX7. TTL, HSS, 2nd curtain, S1/S2, etc. all work as expected. My only big complaint is that it only swivels 270º.

As an on-camera transmitter with TT600 units as slaves, everything works perfectly. Remote power control and HSS are flawless. However, as a YN-622 user, I note that there's no remote zoom control, and no setting groups into MULTI mode remotely.

As an on-camera transmitter with a TT685C (I also shoot Canon) with upgraded firmware and in OLPS (Olympus) slave mode, however, the picture is muddier. If I use the combination indoors or in low light outdoors, everything works. If I then move this working combination to bright light (near a window, outside in sunny-16), everything goes to hell in a handbasket. TTL fires out of sync, and HSS refuses to fire at all. In M and out of HSS, remote power control and firing work fine. [facepalm]. Same behavior with my G3.

As a slave unit, it cannot do cross-brand TTL. So, using my TT685C as master on a 5DMkII and the TT350-O as slave meant that if I set TTL, it would only fire at full power. M mode power control and HSS worked fine. My iPhone+A1 can also control its power remotely, but obviously, without HSS or TTL function.

My recommendation is if you want it as an on-camera flash, don't hesitate. If you want it as an on-camera transmitter, consider getting an X1T-O or wait for the XPro-O. If you want it only as an off-camera slave, I'd recommend a TT600 instead, because it's cheaper and has more power and because Idon't have HSS issues with it. But. YMMV.

I bookmarked this post and found it helpful as I was considering TT350 and V860II for my GX7. So now I'll add an odd finding for discussion and consideration. First, working in a large urban hotel, I've found radio interference from nearby wifi, wireless mics, and God knows what else to seriously decrease the range and also make triggering very unreliable - like, only 20% success in a medium conference room. This is with Adorama's Zoom Mini (TT350) on-camera and a pair of Zoom Li-on R2s (V860II) on stands. On the theory that it would have greater radio power than the Zoom Mini, I got an R2 (X1). That had no problem triggering a pair of Zoom Li-ons 100' away in a large ballroom.

However, testing at home shows that a shutter press on my GX7 with R2 mounted will trigger the Zoom Li-Ions only if the camera is in AFF or AFC mode, not in AFS. Weird.

Weirder still, though I haven't observed it directly, I could swear the R2 switched my GX7 from AFS to AFC. I never use AFC, but I repeatedly found the camera in AFC mode, and I've never accidentally switched into AFC before.

All firmware is up-to-date. One Zoom Li-on can trigger the other in any AF mode, so this odd behavior is unique to the R2.

My brand-new R2 has firmware version 2. Adorama informs me version 5 is available. I will take my R2 to Adorama for a firmware update and test, and will report the results here.

I will also test and report about compatibility with the just-purchased GX85 and GX8 that are on their way to me.

FWIW, at home, the Zoom Mini reliably triggers the Zoom Li-ons in any AF mode.

My old 433MHz R1 triggers always worked perfectly - though they don't support TTL - so these will be my Plan B for high-interference situations until the R2 can be made to work properly and reliably with all my GX7's AF modes.

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