Ricoh GRZ Rumor

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MattTemple Regular Member • Posts: 117
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A friend in Japan sent me a 2016 rumor for a GRII replacement. The GRZ was labeled as a more "tamokutekina" (versatile) camera and more of a modern GX100/200 camera. It mentions a smaller body with a 20 megapixel sensor with a 24-60mm f1.7-2.8 lens, image stabilization, b&w film emulation with grain control, snap focus, dual auto-focus system. There is some other information which I haven't translated yet. This is an apparent GR replacement and not an additional camera.

luck002 New Member • Posts: 11
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MattTemple wrote:

A friend in Japan sent me a 2016 rumor for a GRII replacement. The GRZ was labeled as a more "tamokutekina" (versatile) camera and more of a modern GX100/200 camera. It mentions a smaller body with a 20 megapixel sensor with a 24-60mm f1.7-2.8 lens, image stabilization, b&w film emulation with grain control, snap focus, dual auto-focus system. There is some other information which I haven't translated yet. This is an apparent GR replacement and not an additional camera.

Smaller body with that kinda lens only work with smartphone's sensor.

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luck002 wrote:

MattTemple wrote:

A friend in Japan sent me a 2016 rumor for a GRII replacement. The GRZ was labeled as a more "tamokutekina" (versatile) camera and more of a modern GX100/200 camera. It mentions a smaller body with a 20 megapixel sensor with a 24-60mm f1.7-2.8 lens, image stabilization, b&w film emulation with grain control, snap focus, dual auto-focus system. There is some other information which I haven't translated yet. This is an apparent GR replacement and not an additional camera.

Smaller body with that kinda lens only work with smartphone's sensor.

Tell that to Sony and their RX100

Tungsten Nordstein
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MattTemple wrote:

A friend in Japan sent me a 2016 rumor for a GRII replacement. The GRZ was labeled as a more "tamokutekina" (versatile) camera and more of a modern GX100/200 camera. It mentions a smaller body with a 20 megapixel sensor with a 24-60mm f1.7-2.8 lens, image stabilization, b&w film emulation with grain control, snap focus, dual auto-focus system. There is some other information which I haven't translated yet. This is an apparent GR replacement and not an additional camera.

Interesting. There's enough information to make this sound plausible. But doesn't a zoom lens camera sound more likely to be in addition to the GRII?

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kuuan Veteran Member • Posts: 3,649
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right, a modern GX100/200 but now with a 1" sensor? Would be promising, a competitor to Sony RX100

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OP MattTemple Regular Member • Posts: 117
Re: Ricoh GRZ Rumor

Tungsten Nordstein wrote:

MattTemple wrote:

A friend in Japan sent me a 2016 rumor for a GRII replacement. The GRZ was labeled as a more "tamokutekina" (versatile) camera and more of a modern GX100/200 camera. It mentions a smaller body with a 20 megapixel sensor with a 24-60mm f1.7-2.8 lens, image stabilization, b&w film emulation with grain control, snap focus, dual auto-focus system. There is some other information which I haven't translated yet. This is an apparent GR replacement and not an additional camera.

Interesting. There's enough information to make this sound plausible. But doesn't a zoom lens camera sound more likely to be in addition to the GRII?

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It said "Chikan" which means replacement.

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I like the idea of this, done well and with at least a 1" sensor it would be worth a look.

But I wonder if the rumor is forum talk gone full circle.  There was talk of such a cam on here and the ricohforum 4 years or so ago.

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OP MattTemple Regular Member • Posts: 117
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Earthrise wrote:

I like the idea of this, done well and with at least a 1" sensor it would be worth a look.

But I wonder if the rumor is forum talk gone full circle. There was talk of such a cam on here and the ricohforum 4 years or so ago.

It wasn't on any forum but on letterhead which I will not divulge on here.

Tungsten Nordstein
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Re: Ricoh GRZ Rumor

MattTemple wrote:

Tungsten Nordstein wrote:

MattTemple wrote:

A friend in Japan sent me a 2016 rumor for a GRII replacement. The GRZ was labeled as a more "tamokutekina" (versatile) camera and more of a modern GX100/200 camera. It mentions a smaller body with a 20 megapixel sensor with a 24-60mm f1.7-2.8 lens, image stabilization, b&w film emulation with grain control, snap focus, dual auto-focus system. There is some other information which I haven't translated yet. This is an apparent GR replacement and not an additional camera.

Interesting. There's enough information to make this sound plausible. But doesn't a zoom lens camera sound more likely to be in addition to the GRII?

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It said "Chikan" which means replacement.

Chikan jokes aside, then I believe you and it's good news. I wonder when it will happen? I want to see this camera. Was this something like an internal memo or more like a press release?

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Earthrise
Earthrise Contributing Member • Posts: 657
Re: Ricoh GRZ Rumor

MattTemple wrote:

Earthrise wrote:

I like the idea of this, done well and with at least a 1" sensor it would be worth a look.

But I wonder if the rumor is forum talk gone full circle. There was talk of such a cam on here and the ricohforum 4 years or so ago.

It wasn't on any forum but on letterhead which I will not divulge on here.

Cool, interesting Indeed.  Perhaps Ricoh do read the forums

Tough competition against the RX100 and LX100, and Canon's GX variations etc.  But I would welcome it.

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OP MattTemple Regular Member • Posts: 117
Re: Ricoh GRZ Rumor

Earthrise wrote:

MattTemple wrote:

Earthrise wrote:

I like the idea of this, done well and with at least a 1" sensor it would be worth a look.

But I wonder if the rumor is forum talk gone full circle. There was talk of such a cam on here and the ricohforum 4 years or so ago.

It wasn't on any forum but on letterhead which I will not divulge on here.

Cool, interesting Indeed. Perhaps Ricoh do read the forums

Tough competition against the RX100 and LX100, and Canon's GX variations etc. But I would welcome it.

Ricoh doesn't care about anything outside of Asia.

Earthrise
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MattTemple wrote:

Earthrise wrote:

MattTemple wrote:

Earthrise wrote:

I like the idea of this, done well and with at least a 1" sensor it would be worth a look.

But I wonder if the rumor is forum talk gone full circle. There was talk of such a cam on here and the ricohforum 4 years or so ago.

It wasn't on any forum but on letterhead which I will not divulge on here.

Cool, interesting Indeed. Perhaps Ricoh do read the forums

Tough competition against the RX100 and LX100, and Canon's GX variations etc. But I would welcome it.

Ricoh doesn't care about anything outside of Asia.

No, I don't think they read any forums either.

Will be curious to see if anything comes of this.  Thanks for sharing.

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kuuan wrote:

right, a modern GX100/200 but now with a 1" sensor? Would be promising, a competitor to Sony RX100

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Personally, I would not like a move to a 1" sensor. Although it is larger that a typical compact camera one, still has more limitations than an APS-C size sensor. I do feel that I need to be modest in this forum as I have a GRii for only a couple of months, it was the combination of large sensor, fixed lens and a small package that drew me in. And, it has so much delivered on these aspects, man!

So, I only really miss proper weather sealing and maybe snappier focussing. Both can be met within the same package, thus maintaining the tried and tested and brilliant ergonomics.

Cheers,

Bas

Ps. More DR is obviously always welcome. If this means the next generation sensors, well we probably get more pixels as well...

Archiver Veteran Member • Posts: 3,560
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MattTemple wrote:

Tungsten Nordstein wrote:

MattTemple wrote:

A friend in Japan sent me a 2016 rumor for a GRII replacement. The GRZ was labeled as a more "tamokutekina" (versatile) camera and more of a modern GX100/200 camera. It mentions a smaller body with a 20 megapixel sensor with a 24-60mm f1.7-2.8 lens, image stabilization, b&w film emulation with grain control, snap focus, dual auto-focus system. There is some other information which I haven't translated yet. This is an apparent GR replacement and not an additional camera.

Interesting. There's enough information to make this sound plausible. But doesn't a zoom lens camera sound more likely to be in addition to the GRII?

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It said "Chikan" which means replacement.

I thought 'chikan' is the Japanese word for 'gropey pervert on a train'?

But the camera sounds like a RX100 type camera with a 1" sensor.  I'd definitely buy such a Ricoh, assuming it has GR design DNA.

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rondom Senior Member • Posts: 2,523
Re: Ricoh GRZ Rumor

MattTemple wrote:

Earthrise wrote:

I like the idea of this, done well and with at least a 1" sensor it would be worth a look.

But I wonder if the rumor is forum talk gone full circle. There was talk of such a cam on here and the ricohforum 4 years or so ago.

It wasn't on any forum but on letterhead which I will not divulge on here.

So it's not a "rumor".

Could it be that some Ricoh guys were exchanging ideas similar to what's happening in these pages?

Few years ago there was an interview with a Ricoh executive who openly talked  about zoom GR. (Although, that wasn't a replacement)

It's very much possible that they toyed with the idea and gave up eventually- or it was killed by upper management.

In case of Nikon, their DL project was killed much further down the road.

Tungsten Nordstein
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Re: Ricoh GRZ Rumor

MattTemple wrote:

A friend in Japan sent me a 2016 rumor for a GRII replacement. The GRZ was labeled as a more "tamokutekina" (versatile) camera and more of a modern GX100/200 camera. It mentions a smaller body with a 20 megapixel sensor with a 24-60mm f1.7-2.8 lens, image stabilization, b&w film emulation with grain control, snap focus, dual auto-focus system. There is some other information which I haven't translated yet. This is an apparent GR replacement and not an additional camera.

I like this words. 'smaller body'. and also this ones. 'dual auto-focus system'

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Re: Ricoh GRZ Rumor

rondom wrote:

MattTemple wrote:

Earthrise wrote:

I like the idea of this, done well and with at least a 1" sensor it would be worth a look.

But I wonder if the rumor is forum talk gone full circle. There was talk of such a cam on here and the ricohforum 4 years or so ago.

It wasn't on any forum but on letterhead which I will not divulge on here.

So it's not a "rumor".

Could it be that some Ricoh guys were exchanging ideas similar to what's happening in these pages?

Few years ago there was an interview with a Ricoh executive who openly talked about zoom GR. (Although, that wasn't a replacement)

It's very much possible that they toyed with the idea and gave up eventually- or it was killed by upper management.

In case of Nikon, their DL project was killed much further down the road.

Yes, it's all too tantalisingly both clear and unclear. A rumour but at the same time it's on a real piece of paper or digital file. Also the document is from last year. So why the long wait? And then if they are suggesting it will replace the GRII, that seems so definite that a bunch of guys tossing ideas around would surely not say that.

I remember now a GRIII rumour same time last year where they quoted a Ricoh boss and that also discussed possible new focal lengths:

http://thenewcamera.com/good-news-ricoh-gr-iii-is-coming/

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OP MattTemple Regular Member • Posts: 117
Re: Ricoh GRZ Rumor

Tungsten Nordstein wrote:

rondom wrote:

MattTemple wrote:

Earthrise wrote:

I like the idea of this, done well and with at least a 1" sensor it would be worth a look.

But I wonder if the rumor is forum talk gone full circle. There was talk of such a cam on here and the ricohforum 4 years or so ago.

It wasn't on any forum but on letterhead which I will not divulge on here.

So it's not a "rumor".

Could it be that some Ricoh guys were exchanging ideas similar to what's happening in these pages?

Few years ago there was an interview with a Ricoh executive who openly talked about zoom GR. (Although, that wasn't a replacement)

It's very much possible that they toyed with the idea and gave up eventually- or it was killed by upper management.

In case of Nikon, their DL project was killed much further down the road.

Yes, it's all too tantalisingly unclear and mysterious. A rumour but at the same time it's on a real piece of paper or digital file. Also the document is from last year. So why the long wait? And then if they are suggesting it will replace the GRII, that seems so definite that a bunch of guys tossing ideas around would surely not say that.

I remember now a GRIII rumour same time last year where they quoted a Ricoh boss and that also discussed possible new focal lengths:

http://thenewcamera.com/good-news-ricoh-gr-iii-is-coming/

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The Nikon DL series was cancelled because they couldn't figure out how to manufacture them cost efficiently

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Tungsten Nordstein
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Re: Ricoh GRZ Rumor

MattTemple wrote:

Tungsten Nordstein wrote:

rondom wrote:

MattTemple wrote:

Earthrise wrote:

I like the idea of this, done well and with at least a 1" sensor it would be worth a look.

But I wonder if the rumor is forum talk gone full circle. There was talk of such a cam on here and the ricohforum 4 years or so ago.

It wasn't on any forum but on letterhead which I will not divulge on here.

So it's not a "rumor".

Could it be that some Ricoh guys were exchanging ideas similar to what's happening in these pages?

Few years ago there was an interview with a Ricoh executive who openly talked about zoom GR. (Although, that wasn't a replacement)

It's very much possible that they toyed with the idea and gave up eventually- or it was killed by upper management.

In case of Nikon, their DL project was killed much further down the road.

Yes, it's all too tantalisingly unclear and mysterious. A rumour but at the same time it's on a real piece of paper or digital file. Also the document is from last year. So why the long wait? And then if they are suggesting it will replace the GRII, that seems so definite that a bunch of guys tossing ideas around would surely not say that.

I remember now a GRIII rumour same time last year where they quoted a Ricoh boss and that also discussed possible new focal lengths:

http://thenewcamera.com/good-news-ricoh-gr-iii-is-coming/

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Tungsten Nordstein, 1999

The Nikon DL series was cancelled because they couldn't figure out how to manufacture them cost efficiently

.

Matt. Any more translation coming, please?

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OP MattTemple Regular Member • Posts: 117
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Tungsten Nordstein wrote:

MattTemple wrote:

Tungsten Nordstein wrote:

rondom wrote:

MattTemple wrote:

Earthrise wrote:

I like the idea of this, done well and with at least a 1" sensor it would be worth a look.

But I wonder if the rumor is forum talk gone full circle. There was talk of such a cam on here and the ricohforum 4 years or so ago.

It wasn't on any forum but on letterhead which I will not divulge on here.

So it's not a "rumor".

Could it be that some Ricoh guys were exchanging ideas similar to what's happening in these pages?

Few years ago there was an interview with a Ricoh executive who openly talked about zoom GR. (Although, that wasn't a replacement)

It's very much possible that they toyed with the idea and gave up eventually- or it was killed by upper management.

In case of Nikon, their DL project was killed much further down the road.

Yes, it's all too tantalisingly unclear and mysterious. A rumour but at the same time it's on a real piece of paper or digital file. Also the document is from last year. So why the long wait? And then if they are suggesting it will replace the GRII, that seems so definite that a bunch of guys tossing ideas around would surely not say that.

I remember now a GRIII rumour same time last year where they quoted a Ricoh boss and that also discussed possible new focal lengths:

http://thenewcamera.com/good-news-ricoh-gr-iii-is-coming/

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'I don't take photographs, I delete them.'
Tungsten Nordstein, 1999

The Nikon DL series was cancelled because they couldn't figure out how to manufacture them cost efficiently

.

Matt. Any more translation coming, please?

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I'm slowly working on it.
No mention of view finder or wi-fi.
It mentions video but not format
Size - 105mm - 59mm - 35mm

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