Canon G1X Mark III on 17 Okt

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Photostyle Contributing Member • Posts: 710
Canon G1X Mark III on 17 Okt
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Will it sell if it come with this lens ?

Photostyle wrote:

http://thenewcamera.com/canon-g1x-mark-iii-camera-coming-next-month/

The question come up if people will buy it with this lens, IMO it's a drawback if that lens is coming with that camera.

http://www.canonwatch.com/does-this-canon-patent-for-a-15-43mm-f2-4-lens-for-aps-c-sensors-refer-to-the-powershot-g1-x-mark-iii/

OzarkAggie Senior Member • Posts: 1,810
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A 24-70 with an APS-C sensor would be sweet.

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It's not the camera...

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phototherapy Contributing Member • Posts: 982
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I rather have the old lens : 24 - 120mm, thats match more versatile, and is better then the Sony RX 100 V : 24 - 70mm, if the sensor is a APSC size instead of the old 1.5", can it be done with the old lens ?? thats the question isn't it !!!!

Mark9473 Veteran Member • Posts: 5,433
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phototherapy wrote:

if the sensor is a APSC size instead of the old 1.5", can it be done with the old lens ?? thats the question isn't it !!!!

It is impossible for the old lens to have the same 24-120 equivalent range when used on a larger sensor. It is also impossible for it to have a sufficiently large image circle to cover the larger sensor (look at a G1XII image in raw development with lens correction disabled). So I think your question is not a question at all.

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Re: Will it sell if it come with this lens ?

Mark9473 wrote:

phototherapy wrote:

if the sensor is a APSC size instead of the old 1.5", can it be done with the old lens ?? thats the question isn't it !!!!

It is impossible for the old lens to have the same 24-120 equivalent range when used on a larger sensor. It is also impossible for it to have a sufficiently large image circle to cover the larger sensor (look at a G1XII image in raw development with lens correction disabled). So I think your question is not a question at all.

What if Canon uses a APS-C sensor but does not use the whole sensor to mentain the same lens, it has been sugested by someone ? does that make any sence ?

Mark9473 Veteran Member • Posts: 5,433
Re: Will it sell if it come with this lens ?

phototherapy wrote:

Mark9473 wrote:

phototherapy wrote:

if the sensor is a APSC size instead of the old 1.5", can it be done with the old lens ?? thats the question isn't it !!!!

It is impossible for the old lens to have the same 24-120 equivalent range when used on a larger sensor. It is also impossible for it to have a sufficiently large image circle to cover the larger sensor (look at a G1XII image in raw development with lens correction disabled). So I think your question is not a question at all.

What if Canon uses a APS-C sensor but does not use the whole sensor to mentain the same lens, it has been sugested by someone ? does that make any sence ?

It would make sense if they only use an area identical to the old 1.5" sensor. The crop factor would then remain at 1.92. But to then call it an APS-C sensor is pure marketing nonsense.

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phototherapy Contributing Member • Posts: 982
Re: Will it sell if it come with this lens ?

Mark9473 wrote:

phototherapy wrote:

Mark9473 wrote:

phototherapy wrote:

if the sensor is a APSC size instead of the old 1.5", can it be done with the old lens ?? thats the question isn't it !!!!

It is impossible for the old lens to have the same 24-120 equivalent range when used on a larger sensor. It is also impossible for it to have a sufficiently large image circle to cover the larger sensor (look at a G1XII image in raw development with lens correction disabled). So I think your question is not a question at all.

What if Canon uses a APS-C sensor but does not use the whole sensor to mentain the same lens, it has been sugested by someone ? does that make any sence ?

It would make sense if they only use an area identical to the old 1.5" sensor. The crop factor would then remain at 1.92. But to then call it an APS-C sensor is pure marketing nonsense.

I agree with you, to reduce cost Canon could use there own 24MP APS-C sensor with PDAF, and that's the goal I presume. maybe also 4K, but most of all I would like to see a good vieuw finder again, even if it make the camera bigger.

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Mark9473 wrote:

phototherapy wrote:

Mark9473 wrote:

phototherapy wrote:

if the sensor is a APSC size instead of the old 1.5", can it be done with the old lens ?? thats the question isn't it !!!!

It is impossible for the old lens to have the same 24-120 equivalent range when used on a larger sensor. It is also impossible for it to have a sufficiently large image circle to cover the larger sensor (look at a G1XII image in raw development with lens correction disabled). So I think your question is not a question at all.

What if Canon uses a APS-C sensor but does not use the whole sensor to mentain the same lens, it has been sugested by someone ? does that make any sence ?

It would make sense if they only use an area identical to the old 1.5" sensor. The crop factor would then remain at 1.92. But to then call it an APS-C sensor is pure marketing nonsense.

and.. who's doing that exactly?

justmeMN Veteran Member • Posts: 7,198
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phototherapy wrote:

What if Canon uses a APS-C sensor but does not use the whole sensor to mentain the same lens, it has been sugested by someone ? does that make any sence ?

That makes the most sense to me. I don't see how they could make it work utilizing a full APS-C sensor. Either the lens will be too big, or the lens' zoom range will be too small. When Nikon made a (discontinued) APS-C compact, they resorted to a fixed 28mm-equivalent lens to keep the camera compact.

Martin JC Senior Member • Posts: 2,368
Re: Canon G1X Mark III on 17 Okt
Martin JC Senior Member • Posts: 2,368
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And this quote from the site sourced says: "APS-C OR 1.5 inch sensor Size of the sensor isn’t confirmed yet".  And thats the problems with rumor sites.  They tease, and we just wait and see. Sigh.....

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Martin JC wrote:

And this quote from the site sourced says: "APS-C OR 1.5 inch sensor Size of the sensor isn’t confirmed yet". And thats the problems with rumor sites. They tease, and we just wait and see. Sigh.....

It has built a lot of interest in a camera which was not exactly talked about much and we just know a new version of the camera is coming out and absolutely nothing else.

Probably there will be a bit of a more specific leak in the near future as just just announcing all the facts straight in one lump can cause a bit of disappointment and negative reaction from those who do not like the specifications which can sour the release and they cannot please everybody.

Hopefully it will all happen soon. This was one area where Samsung were weak as often they would announce a camera and only put it on sale when they were sure everyone had completely forgotten about it.

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Martin JC Senior Member • Posts: 2,368
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KeepCalm wrote:

Martin JC wrote:

And this quote from the site sourced says: "APS-C OR 1.5 inch sensor Size of the sensor isn’t confirmed yet". And thats the problems with rumor sites. They tease, and we just wait and see. Sigh.....

It has built a lot of interest in a camera which was not exactly talked about much and we just know a new version of the camera is coming out and absolutely nothing else.

Probably there will be a bit of a more specific leak in the near future as just just announcing all the facts straight in one lump can cause a bit of disappointment and negative reaction from those who do not like the specifications which can sour the release and they cannot please everybody.

Hopefully it will all happen soon. This was one area where Samsung were weak as often they would announce a camera and only put it on sale when they were sure everyone had completely forgotten about it.

Definitely looking forward to the announcement.... There is another thread on DPReview talking about how camera websites -- such as the rumor sites -- make money from pushing reviews / rumors.....

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