Shooting time delay comparison - DSLR vs Mirrorless

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DVT80111 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,763
Shooting time delay comparison - DSLR vs Mirrorless

I performed this test just this weekend.  It is not scientific by any means. But what I found was no significant difference between the 2 systems.

A pro sports photographer probably will shoot before the action anyway. So the camera that has higher frame rate and better tracking AF will win hand down.

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You are comparing a 5 year old $2000 camera against a 2 year old $3000 one...

IMO not a good base for drawing conclusions...

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I think the Sony A9 has less delay than the A7r2.

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I'd love to see how you're doing the timing because I have found a pretty clear delay between my A7II and even a D3300

DSLRs are way more responsive than MILCs

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osv Veteran Member • Posts: 9,970
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sportyaccordy wrote:

I'd love to see how you're doing the timing because I have found a pretty clear delay between my A7II and even a D3300

DSLRs are way more responsive than MILCs

"The Sony A9's prefocused shutter lag was only 0.020 second with EFCS, which is very fast. Without EFCS, prefocused shutter lag increased dramatically 0.165 second, but with the fully electronic shutter, it was only 0.038 second." http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/sony-a9/sony-a9A6.HTM

"(d5)Manual focus lag was 41 milliseconds, a bit faster than the D4S's 44ms. When prefocused, shutter lag was only 39 milliseconds, which is very fast for a DSLR and once again improved over the D4S's 43ms." http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/nikon-d5/nikon-d5A6.HTM

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Try when the processor is working

DVT80111 wrote:

I performed this test just this weekend. It is not scientific by any means. But what I found was no significant difference between the 2 systems.

A pro sports photographer probably will shoot before the action anyway. So the camera that has higher frame rate and better tracking AF will win hand down.

You should try when cameras processor is on heavy duty (which could affect the EVF response time) - like when it performs AF-C while shooting a series, saving the images, changing exposure etc.

golfhov Forum Pro • Posts: 11,893
not surprising

"shutter lag" really hasn't been an issue on mirror less for some time. It is often FASTER than a DSLR.

Now EVF lag and AF delays are a different issue. That I don't even feel like getting into...........

Too often people seem to claim "shutter lag"(see several of the responses above) when it isn't the problem they are having or do not know how to use their camera.

You will also find the same issue often when discussing "evf lag" which is a real thing but just like "shutter lag" often incorrectly blamed for errors. Again "EVF lag" is a real thing and cause certain issues BUT it is too often incorrectly attributed to missed shots where the user just plain doesn't know how a camera works

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drj3 Forum Pro • Posts: 11,127
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Just use the E-M1 MkII with Pro Capture Low and get the 14 images before you pressed the shutter with no delay.

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I stood outside for half an hour with my DSLR trying to catch lightning, turns out that fraction of a second needed to move the mirror out of the way is too long to do it. First try with the mirrorless RX100:

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SoCalWill wrote:

I stood outside for half an hour with my DSLR trying to catch lightning, turns out that fraction of a second needed to move the mirror out of the way is too long to do it. First try with the mirrorless RX100:

You do know that the mirror can be held up in LV, right?

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The K-S2 still moves the mirror when shooting LV, it takes longer than if shooting optically.

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No electronic 1st curtain?

osv Veteran Member • Posts: 9,970
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J A C S wrote:

SoCalWill wrote:

I stood outside for half an hour with my DSLR trying to catch lightning, turns out that fraction of a second needed to move the mirror out of the way is too long to do it. First try with the mirrorless RX100:

You do know that the mirror can be held up in LV, right?

lv in dslrs is usually a disaster, with some pretty ugly shutter delay... d800, for example.

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osv wrote:

J A C S wrote:

SoCalWill wrote:

I stood outside for half an hour with my DSLR trying to catch lightning, turns out that fraction of a second needed to move the mirror out of the way is too long to do it. First try with the mirrorless RX100:

You do know that the mirror can be held up in LV, right?

lv in dslrs is usually a disaster, with some pretty ugly shutter delay... d800, for example.

How long?

osv Veteran Member • Posts: 9,970
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J A C S wrote:

osv wrote:

J A C S wrote:

SoCalWill wrote:

I stood outside for half an hour with my DSLR trying to catch lightning, turns out that fraction of a second needed to move the mirror out of the way is too long to do it. First try with the mirrorless RX100:

You do know that the mirror can be held up in LV, right?

lv in dslrs is usually a disaster, with some pretty ugly shutter delay... d800, for example.

How long?

prefocused: 0.184sec

w/full autofocus: 1.735sec

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/nikon-d800/nikon-d800A6.HTM

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osv wrote:

J A C S wrote:

osv wrote:

J A C S wrote:

SoCalWill wrote:

I stood outside for half an hour with my DSLR trying to catch lightning, turns out that fraction of a second needed to move the mirror out of the way is too long to do it. First try with the mirrorless RX100:

You do know that the mirror can be held up in LV, right?

lv in dslrs is usually a disaster, with some pretty ugly shutter delay... d800, for example.

How long?

prefocused: 0.184sec

w/full autofocus: 1.735sec

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/nikon-d800/nikon-d800A6.HTM

Obviously, you do not shoot lightnings without prefocus, let us not change the topic.

For the D54, it is 0.054 sec in LV and not in LV! So the disaster is ... no difference.

osv Veteran Member • Posts: 9,970
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J A C S wrote:

osv wrote:

J A C S wrote:

osv wrote:

J A C S wrote:

SoCalWill wrote:

I stood outside for half an hour with my DSLR trying to catch lightning, turns out that fraction of a second needed to move the mirror out of the way is too long to do it. First try with the mirrorless RX100:

You do know that the mirror can be held up in LV, right?

lv in dslrs is usually a disaster, with some pretty ugly shutter delay... d800, for example.

How long?

prefocused: 0.184sec

w/full autofocus: 1.735sec

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/nikon-d800/nikon-d800A6.HTM

Obviously, you do not shoot lightnings without prefocus, let us not change the topic.

what part of "prefocused: 0.184sec" did you not get?

For the D54, it is 0.054 sec in LV and not in LV! So the disaster is ... no difference.

what's a "d54" and where is the link to the measurements.

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osv wrote:

J A C S wrote:

osv wrote:

J A C S wrote:

osv wrote:

J A C S wrote:

SoCalWill wrote:

I stood outside for half an hour with my DSLR trying to catch lightning, turns out that fraction of a second needed to move the mirror out of the way is too long to do it. First try with the mirrorless RX100:

You do know that the mirror can be held up in LV, right?

lv in dslrs is usually a disaster, with some pretty ugly shutter delay... d800, for example.

How long?

prefocused: 0.184sec

w/full autofocus: 1.735sec

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/nikon-d800/nikon-d800A6.HTM

Obviously, you do not shoot lightnings without prefocus, let us not change the topic.

what part of "prefocused: 0.184sec" did you not get?

What makes you think I did not? I was saying that the second number is irrelevant.

For the D54, it is 0.054 sec in LV and not in LV! So the disaster is ... no difference.

what's a "d54" and where the link to the measurements.

5D4.

osv Veteran Member • Posts: 9,970
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J A C S wrote:

osv wrote:

J A C S wrote:

osv wrote:

J A C S wrote:

osv wrote:

J A C S wrote:

SoCalWill wrote:

I stood outside for half an hour with my DSLR trying to catch lightning, turns out that fraction of a second needed to move the mirror out of the way is too long to do it. First try with the mirrorless RX100:

You do know that the mirror can be held up in LV, right?

lv in dslrs is usually a disaster, with some pretty ugly shutter delay... d800, for example.

How long?

prefocused: 0.184sec

w/full autofocus: 1.735sec

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/nikon-d800/nikon-d800A6.HTM

Obviously, you do not shoot lightnings without prefocus, let us not change the topic.

what part of "prefocused: 0.184sec" did you not get?

What makes you think I did not? I was saying that the second number is irrelevant.

except you never said any such thing.

For the D54, it is 0.054 sec in LV and not in LV! So the disaster is ... no difference.

what's a "d54" and where the link to the measurements.

5D4.

link?

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osv Veteran Member • Posts: 9,970
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osv wrote:

J A C S wrote:

osv wrote:

J A C S wrote:

SoCalWill wrote:

I stood outside for half an hour with my DSLR trying to catch lightning, turns out that fraction of a second needed to move the mirror out of the way is too long to do it. First try with the mirrorless RX100:

You do know that the mirror can be held up in LV, right?

lv in dslrs is usually a disaster, with some pretty ugly shutter delay... d800, for example.

How long?

prefocused: 0.184sec

w/full autofocus: 1.735sec

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/nikon-d800/nikon-d800A6.HTM

prefocused: 0.158 second

w/full autofocus: 0.875 second

lv prefocused shutter delay on the d810 is still weak.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/nikon-d810/nikon-d810A6.HTM

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