SL2 vs SL1 Viewfinder Question

The size of viewfinder may not help you see all of it if you wear glasses like I do. The key isn't size so much as "eye point" or a similar spec, which is available for binoculars but apparently not cameras. More eye point distance means more of the viewfinder is visible with glasses. Even with my 70D, I can not see everything in the viewfinder without an eye scan. Canon use to make available an eye extender, which made the image smaller but totally visible with glasses. Don't know why the eye point distance is not longer since many people were glasses. With my binoculars, I was frustrated that I could only see the entire image except by removing my glasses. Not what I wanted to do with pricey glasses. I found a pair of Nikon binoculars with an eye point of 20-24mm instead of the common 14-16mm. Now I can see the entire image with glasses, which allows for a sharp image due to eye glass corrections that the binoculars can not provide, which is only focus.

Greg

The extender for the view finder is EP-EX15 II. The other great thing about this adapter is I don't get nose prints on the LCD any more.

ThrillaMozilla wrote:

That's DPR. There's a button to report the error, but apparently they ignore it unless they get lots of reports. You all need to report the error.

Its pointless to report these errors to DPR, I have reported about quarter ago that Sony a68 does support FullHD video with 50p/60p settings (depends on NTSC/PAL settings) and its still not corrected and shows 60i. Do not waste Your time.

Lemming51 wrote:

plantdoc wrote:

The size of viewfinder may not help you see all of it if you wear glasses like I do. The key isn't size so much as "eye point" or a similar spec, which is available for binoculars but apparently not cameras. ...

Maybe not commonly listed in DPReview, but Canon, Nikon, maybe others do list eyepoint as part of the viewfinder specs for their DSLR bodies. For the SL1 and SL2 it is "Approx. 19mm". Same as 77D and most other Rebels. Not as good as the 80D's 22mm, but better than Nikon D3400's 18mm and D5600's 17mm.

Agree. As a glasses wearer, eyepoint as an important consideration when I'm shopping for a camera.

Agreed - in fact, based on a side-by-side comparison, the SL1 (100D) and SL2 (200D) have an absolutely identical viewfinder, right down to the nine red LED dots for the AF points.  Whilst this is less high-tech than the more expensive models (T7i/800D, 77D and their predecessors the T6i/750D and T6s/760D), it does give a slightly (but noticeably, at least to me) larger view.

Lemming51 wrote:

plantdoc wrote:

The size of viewfinder may not help you see all of it if you wear glasses like I do. The key isn't size so much as "eye point" or a similar spec, which is available for binoculars but apparently not cameras. ...

Maybe not commonly listed in DPReview, but Canon, Nikon, maybe others do list eyepoint as part of the viewfinder specs for their DSLR bodies. For the SL1 and SL2 it is "Approx. 19mm". Same as 77D and most other Rebels. Not as good as the 80D's 22mm, but better than Nikon D3400's 18mm and D5600's 17mm.

Agree. As a glasses wearer, eyepoint as an important consideration when I'm shopping for a camera.

I wear glasses, I´ve tried the Nikon D5500 and the OVF was totally abysmal. A tiny hole at the end of a tunnel. My SL1´s VF is noticably better. My EOS M5 actually has by far the best VF of the bunch, as much as I usually prefer optical VFs.

Waldemar wrote:

Lemming51 wrote:

plantdoc wrote:

The size of viewfinder may not help you see all of it if you wear glasses like I do. The key isn't size so much as "eye point" or a similar spec, which is available for binoculars but apparently not cameras. ...

Maybe not commonly listed in DPReview, but Canon, Nikon, maybe others do list eyepoint as part of the viewfinder specs for their DSLR bodies. For the SL1 and SL2 it is "Approx. 19mm". Same as 77D and most other Rebels. Not as good as the 80D's 22mm, but better than Nikon D3400's 18mm and D5600's 17mm.

Agree. As a glasses wearer, eyepoint as an important consideration when I'm shopping for a camera.

I wear glasses, I´ve tried the Nikon D5500 and the OVF was totally abysmal. A tiny hole at the end of a tunnel. My SL1´s VF is noticably better. My EOS M5 actually has by far the best VF of the bunch, as much as I usually prefer optical VFs.

Yes - I have an D5500 hanging around (I believe the OVF issue is unchanged on the D5600 which is 99.5% the identical camera) and the viewfinder is very small - another issue I have with it is that the data display beneath it auto-dims to near-illegibility in most cases - or else it's highly dependent on one's precise eyeline to remain visible.  Very frustrating (along with severe shutter shock with some lenses - it doesn't have EFCS like Canons.  It's not mirror slap as it still happens with mirror lockup).  A shame as it also has some very nice features, excellent out-of-camera quality and a rather nice design.

SW Anderson wrote:

MedicareMan wrote:

The extender for the view finder is EP-EX15 II. The other great thing about this adapter is I don't get nose prints on the LCD any more.

I just searched Canon's Web site for "EP-EX15 II" alone, with" viewfinder", with "extender", and got all sorts of accessories listed. But, none of them appeared to be what you referred to. This sounds like something I could use.

Additional information, maybe an image of it, if that's not too much trouble, would be greatly appreciated.

Look on a site such as Amazon - in the UK (where I am) there are big illustrations of both versions - search on EP-EX15 and EP-EX15 II. Canon's been a bit lax about keeping the information up to date about these on their websites, it seems. As far as I know (I don't have one) they only differ in the details of their manufacture. Here's a summary from the website of a reliable UK retailer: do note the image size comment, and owners who have reviewed it on the site do confirm that - for some, it's a disadvantage.

"For most Canon EOS series DSLR except the 7D and 1 series, the EP-EX15II Eyepiece Extender extends the camera's viewfinder by 15mm, thus bridging the gap between your eye and the viewfinder. This allows operation of the viewfinder without needing to press closely to the back of the camera and is more comfortable to use. The viewfinder extender also reduces the image size, which can be useful in assisting composition."

SW Anderson wrote:

Helen, thank you so much for the helpful information. I will check on Amazon, and if that doesn't work, with B&H or Adorama, in New York.

Glad to help.  I note that the eyepiece optics of the extender appear to be circular (not that this is generally a problem - many top-of-the-line DSLRs have circular eyepieces) - so as long as you're happy with the fact that it will make the viewfinder image smaller, it might be useful.  At least it's not a hugely expensive accessory.  I don't think anyone really knows what the difference is between the original EP-EX15 and the EP-EX15 II...!