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Beginner's question about focusing on T2i

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billthemountain Junior Member • Posts: 27
Beginner's question about focusing on T2i

I recently heard two conflicting pieces of advice and was hoping to get it straightened out.

I was told, to get the best AF, only use the center auto focus point on "manual selection".  Something about that "dot" having a unique focusing engine behind it.  And I have noticed sharper shots on that dot.  For example, focusing that dot on a subject's eyes.

If this is true, and I want to shoot something framed in the right quadrant, and I shouldn't use the appropriate manual selection dot, what's my best option?  That was the question I couldn't get answered.

Thanks in advance.

Canon EOS 550D (EOS Rebel T2i / EOS Kiss X4)
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TyphoonTW
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1) Move the focusing point

2) Focus with the center one, then recompose (move the camera and frame the picture the way you want)

With option #1 you "give up" the best focusing point, with #2 you run the risk of the plane of focusing shifting a bit when recomposing. There's no real solution that is overall better, it depends on the situation and people's preference.

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OP billthemountain Junior Member • Posts: 27
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Just so I'm 100%... with option 2, half-press the shutter to lock the focus ("beep!!"), then compose the shot?

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Exactly. You just need to setup the camera in a way that it will not keep focusing while you try to take a shot. This is usually done by having the focus button separate from the shutter button. Doing so has many benefits, one of which is having an easy time recomposing pictures after focusing on a specific subject.

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OP billthemountain Junior Member • Posts: 27
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Hmm, lost me there... have the focus separate from the shutter release?  Is there a setting to reassign a button to be the focus button?  I didn't know that was possible.

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... most of the time, in most circumstances, place the focus point that is nearest the "eye" (or whatever you want sharpest) over top of the eye, half press the shutter release, look for the little green circle in the viewfinder telling you the camera is focused, and move the camera the smallest amount possible so the shot is framed the way you want, and press the shutter release all the way down.

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Olga Johnson Forum Pro • Posts: 24,360
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It's in custom functions (#4 perhaps, I don't have camera or manual handy).  I always use back button (star button) focusing.

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OP billthemountain Junior Member • Posts: 27
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Thank you all!

WilbaW
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billthemountain wrote:

I recently heard two conflicting pieces of advice and was hoping to get it straightened out.

I was told, to get the best AF, only use the center auto focus point on "manual selection". Something about that "dot" having a unique focusing engine behind it.

Usually the centre point can be more accurate with lenses wider than f/5.6, or more able to deliver accurate focus in low light, but that doesn't mean only using the centre point is always the "best" thing to do. If another point makes it easier or more convenient to frame the shot, I will definitely use it.

If this is true, ...

It is, but it shouldn't lock you into something that restricts what you what to do or how you want to do it.

... and I want to shoot something framed in the right quadrant, and I shouldn't use the appropriate manual selection dot, what's my best option? That was the question I couldn't get answered.

Sounds like you've worked that out from previous answers, but it's a complicated question of when should you focus with the centre point and recompose, and when you should use the closest AF point. How about do some direct comparisons of the two methods, see what works best for you, and let us know?

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Jules Winnfield Regular Member • Posts: 248
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2 points to add

(BTW you have already received good advice above from some excellent photographers).

1. Although the focus and recompose method does throw the plane of focus off your subject sometimes, this is usually only an issue if you are taking a photo with a very thin depth of field - e.g. a photo at a wide aperture taken close to your subject

2. The center focus point on your camera is cross-type, meaning it looks for contrast both vertically and horizontally. The other focus points run in only one plane.

The focus points need something with contrast under them to focus on. You may notice trouble locking focus on a low contrast subject, like a white t-shirt on a bright sunny day.  Low light situations also push the autofocus system to its limits.  The cross type focus point will have an easier time locking in on the intended subject.

OP billthemountain Junior Member • Posts: 27
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I thought I'd reply to my own thread for anyone who might stumble upon this in their search for education.  I took a look at all the great advice. Every piece was extremely valuable and helpful.

In the end, I actually made a big investment and bought a 5DmIV.  I looked at my output and decided I deserved an expensive treat

Just a massive difference.  The same focus principles all apply, but the camera is just remarkably smarter, with different AF modes, making my images sharper.  I'm perfectly happy with the sharpness levels I get now.  I think I really did just run into the limitations of the T2i, and was ready for the next level.

Thanks so much for all the help you've given me.  This is a great community.

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