Are Godox and Neewer the same flashes simply branded differently?

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Old Pirate Senior Member • Posts: 1,451
Are Godox and Neewer the same flashes simply branded differently?

It appears that they are, but can't find anyone who has written that down with confidence.

I shoot Sony and have two of their flashes with TTL and HSS, but HSS is limited to indoors basically with them.  Outside the sun can negate their system or the proverbial setup to accommodate the desired shot always seems to hide the light receptor.

I don't use flash outside all the time, but when I do the 10 meter limit between commander and slave on the Sony with TTL suddenly is too short.

Godox especially has a majority of good reviews with one person claiming poor TTL under 2.8, but many images by others tends to negate that complaint by one.

Your thoughts are appreciated.

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Re: Are Godox and Neewer the same flashes simply branded differently?

Old Pirate wrote: poor TTL under 2.8,

TTL is not poor under 2.8... what happens is - firmware on transmitter (Sony model) has a bug ... so it underexposes exactly 1 stop for f2.8 vs f4.0, exactly 2 stops for f1.4 vs f4.0... for now you can remember that under exposure is directly proportional to how wide lens is open wider than f4.0... otherwise TTL works as intended... if you have a non Sony camera then no issues... plus if you just need HSS then you don't need TTL at all - shoot M mode

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Re: Are Godox and Neewer the same flashes simply branded differently?

HSS reduces the power of the flash by 2 stops or more. This means using a bare flash that is close to the subject in most cases.

HSS only works in an Auto Exposure mode with most (all?) cameras so you need to learn how to use Exposure Compensation and Flash Exposure Compensation to fine tune the ambient and flash exposures.

Make sure the optical sensor of the off-camera flash (usually the front of the battery compartment section of the flash) is aimed at the master flash, which is usually on-camera, to make optical triggering as reliable as possible.  For real reliability go to RF triggers.

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OP Old Pirate Senior Member • Posts: 1,451
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Thanks guys, but my main question was if Neewer and Godox were the same flashes under different names and numbers.

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Old Pirate wrote:

Thanks guys, but my main question was if Neewer and Godox were the same flashes under different names and numbers.

Yes
Mike

OP Old Pirate Senior Member • Posts: 1,451
Re: Are Godox and Neewer the same flashes simply branded differently?

Thanks Mike.  Flash setups are subjective I realize.  I use a handheld meter when I go manual for accuracy and quick setup, but I simply want a ttl, hss combo that will go beyond 10 meters for outdoors.  Neewer seems to offer better prices and packages than Godox.

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Hi

Godox TT350S Flash

Look at this set up for your Sony camera.

I have this and it works great. I liked it so much I bought a second flash.

Brad

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Eric Gill Contributing Member • Posts: 573
Re: Are Godox and Neewer the same flashes simply branded differently?

Yes, they are the same if they look the same. Godox rebranded: Neewer, Cheetah, Adorama, MoLight and others. It's a good idea to go with dealers a little more local to you just in case of problems.

I've never been a fan of using TTL, but then I'm coming from Canon and hated the inconsistency with the expensive brand-name ETTL speedlights I bought. The V860II's TTL  has worked to a treat so far, but I haven't used it for HSS or faster than f/4.5 as of yet.

The lithium battery and built-in commander unit are wonderful.

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OP Old Pirate Senior Member • Posts: 1,451
Re: Are Godox and Neewer the same flashes simply branded differently?

Has the Neewer released a version of the Godox v860ii with a lithium battery that Godox has?  I can't find it if they do.

I live in a rural area and camera shops are not down the street, but your advice is sound.

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Sailor Blue wrote:

HSS only works in an Auto Exposure mode with most (all?) cameras

BS...

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Old Pirate wrote:

Are Godox and Neewer the same flashes simply branded differently?

Yes. And no.

Like most rebrandings, it's not a 1:1 correspondence.  While some Neewer flashes are rebranded Godoxes, not every Neewer flash is a rebranded Godox. And not everything with the Neewer brand on it is made by Godox.  Similarly, not all the Adorama Flashpoint-branded lights are Godox-made either (some are known to be Jinbei).

The generic house-brands, like Neewer, basically gather together a whole bunch of items from a variety of manufacturers to sell under one label.

For example, some models are known to be Godox units. But something like the Neewer 565EX is not, as far as I can tell.

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Godox is an actual manufacturer with a factory

try to find what you want from them through a local seller so there is actually a warranty.

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Nikonparrothead Veteran Member • Posts: 5,491
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Newer hasn't technically released anything. It's a marketing company that buys and rebrands.  As for the price break, there's been some discussion that other marketers of Godox-produced gear, Adorama Flashpoint, B&H Bolt, Interfit and Cheetahstand to name the ones I'm most familiar with, have more stringent quality control tolerances and/or offer better warranties.

Given the sheer quantity of gear produced, I'm not sure how the QC claims are realized but better warranties are worth it, in my mind.

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Nikonparrothead Veteran Member • Posts: 5,491
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I consider Flashpoint a house brand for Adorama and Bolt a house brand for B&H. Is neeer actually anyone's house brand, or just a marketing company (similar to the one that traded off the once iconic Vivitar name).

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