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Would anyone have any interest in the following lenses?

Started Jun 7, 2017 | Polls
drh681
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Re: Would anyone have any interest in the following lenses?

Tannin wrote:

Yes to the 70/1.8. though I'd perhaps prefer a 60 or a 65. F/2.8 would be fine for me so long as it was sharp at f/2.8. Never any harm in being a bit faster though.

I've also often wished for a 45mm prime. I make do without by putting a 35/1.4 on APS-H, which works out to about the 45mm angle of view on FF. Oddly enough, now that there suddenly is one, I've gone a bit cold on the idea and haven't rushed out to buy it after all.

Canon makes a 40 mm f 2.8 which I recent used almost exclusively for a photo raid on the Eastern Sierra, it's excellent for making panoramas and all around shooting.

But most of all I would love a mid-range zoom starting a bit wider than 70mm and going to wherever is practical: 50-250 maybe. high quality but doesn't need to be fast. The closest thing to it at present is the 70-300/4-5.6L.

Canon also makes a 55-250 for APSc cameras. I have one in the EF mount made for the old APS film camera.

The brother lens is a 22-55 which is remarkably sharp but vignettes like crazy on a larger format.

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Abu Mahendra Veteran Member • Posts: 5,312
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Great Bustard wrote:

Abu Mahendra wrote:

Wet dream : Canon EF 20-50mm f/2 IS L USM. This one, Buster. No more than 740 grams. IQ on par with the 24-70LII. Gotta go clean myself now...

...the Sigma 24-35 / 2A weighs in at 941g. So, yeah, that is a wet dream.

ok, f/2.8 then...

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Abu Mahendra wrote:

Great Bustard wrote:

Abu Mahendra wrote:

Wet dream : Canon EF 20-50mm f/2 IS L USM. This one, Buster. No more than 740 grams. IQ on par with the 24-70LII. Gotta go clean myself now...

...the Sigma 24-35 / 2A weighs in at 941g. So, yeah, that is a wet dream.

ok, f/2.8 then...

That just might work!

jitteringjr Veteran Member • Posts: 3,608
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Great Bustard wrote:

In the same way that a 120-300 / 2.8 is larger and heavier than a 70-200 / 2.8, a 35-105 / 2.8 would be larger and heavier than a 24-70 / 2.8.

It's tricky when you combine retro focus designs with tele designs though so it might not be an much larger as you would think. Remember before the new 35/1.4 II, the 24/1.4 II was larger than the 35/1.4 I. If you kill the more extreme retro focus needs of a 24-70 with a 35-xx, how much would that save in size and weight?

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Andy Blanchard Senior Member • Posts: 1,349
Re: Would anyone have any interest in the following lenses?

Great Bustard wrote:

Andy Blanchard wrote:

No to all for me, my personal reasons based on my usage as follows:

35-70 / 2A OS: Debatable if the extra stop would be much use over my 24-70mm f/2.8, especially if Canon ever ever makes the oft-discussed version with IS at some point. Then again, 35-70mm would make a good street shooting combo with a 16-35mm...

Interesting, though, that so many feel the extra stop of the 70-200 / 2.8 is worth it over the 70-200 / 4, the extra stop of the 24-70 / 2.8 is worth it over the 24-70 / 4 (and 24-105 / 4), and the extra stop of the 16-35 / 2.8 is worth it over the 16-35 / 4.

There is another reason for going for f/2.8 over f/4.0 besides the usual trade offs between cost, weight, IQ, etc. - an f/2.8 lets you fully use the more advanced AF sensor types, which should result in faster and more accurate AF.

70 / 1.8A OS: Odd focal length. If I'm after shallow DoF and nice bokeh (which is presumably the point) I'd go probably go for an 85mm f/1.8 instead and just take a step or two further back for even shallower DoF and creamier bokeh.

The DOF will be the same for the same framing, but the background blur will be greater for the longer focal length. As for the bokeh, that depends on the design of the lens as the bokeh is the quality of the blur, not the quantity.

Yes it is - bad wording on my part; I trying to imply that the 85mm is something of a demon for bokeh. That's not so say the 70mm couldn't land in the same ballpark, but without something really special I'm not seeing a selling point.

100-300 / 4S OS: Might be a good travel lens, but you'd probably do better with a 70-200mm f/2.8 and a 1.4x TC, which is how I generally cover that range at present.

I would expect that the IQ of a 100-300 / 4S OS would be better than a 70-200 / 2.8 + 1.4x TC, as well as being smaller and lighter and with faster AF.

At the expense of losing the option of f/2.8, including it's better AF sensor use, plus swapping 70-100mm for 280-300mm. Plus the better IQ would probably depend on whether the TC was attached, so I guess the choice would depend on which end of the focal range you are more likely to use. Trade offs again.

Like others, I'm not seeing many gaps in the current line up other than maybe a slower but longer complement to the 200-400mm; a 300-600mm f/5.6, perhaps? Specialist lenses like macros with built in ringlights, TS-Es, and so on, sure - there's maybe a market for such things, but mostly at this point it's about improving the optics, providing faster AF, and - in some cases - the addition of IS.

Sure -- like I said, I'm more than certain that I'm in a small minority, here.

Doesn't hurt to speculate, and there's always a chance of stumbling over some missing combination that turns out to be hugely popular.  It's not like someone hasn't suddenly announced something that caught people off guard, and Zeiss has some "odd" focal lengths compared to Canon's typical break points for instance, so a 70mm f/2 might be right up their street.  Probably be manual and no IS though.

Andy

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Re: Would anyone have any interest in the following lenses?

i already have more lenses than i have time to use (prime and telephoto, the best ones  that canon offers)   the only one i am interested in getting, is the canon 16-35 f4.0 IS, but not the ones you have listed, especially made by sigma or the other 3rd party jellybean lenses

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1Dx4me wrote:

i already have more lenses than i have time to use (prime and telephoto, the best ones that canon offers) the only one i am interested in getting, is the canon 16-35 f4.0 IS, but not the ones you have listed, especially made by sigma or the other 3rd party jellybean lenses

Well who asked you, then? 

Honestly, though, I have all I need and then some.  That said, I can't think of a time when having all I needed stopped me from wanting more -- First World problems, and all. 

HarryLally Senior Member • Posts: 2,692
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Oh! You are a G.A.S!

BlueRay2 Forum Pro • Posts: 14,816
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Great Bustard wrote:

1Dx4me wrote:

i already have more lenses than i have time to use (prime and telephoto, the best ones that canon offers) the only one i am interested in getting, is the canon 16-35 f4.0 IS, but not the ones you have listed, especially made by sigma or the other 3rd party jellybean lenses

Well who asked you, then?

Honestly, though, I have all I need and then some. That said, I can't think of a time when having all I needed stopped me from wanting more -- First World problems, and all.

to be honest with you, if i had to start all over again, i'd get a canon 24-70 f2.8 II and a canon 100400 II, that would cover just about anything i want to photograph in that wide FL range. the rest of the lenses i have (primes, TSE, macro) are all specialized for certain activities. also, i have never been interested in 3rd party lenses except maybe zeiss (own 2 of them). happy zooming.

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Re: Yeah?

1Dx4me wrote:

Great Bustard wrote:

1Dx4me wrote:

i already have more lenses than i have time to use (prime and telephoto, the best ones that canon offers) the only one i am interested in getting, is the canon 16-35 f4.0 IS, but not the ones you have listed, especially made by sigma or the other 3rd party jellybean lenses

Well who asked you, then?

Honestly, though, I have all I need and then some. That said, I can't think of a time when having all I needed stopped me from wanting more -- First World problems, and all.

to be honest with you, if i had to start all over again, i'd get a canon 24-70 f2.8 II and a canon 100400 II, that would cover just about anything i want to photograph in that wide FL range. the rest of the lenses i have (primes, TSE, macro) are all specialized for certain activities. also, i have never been interested in 3rd party lenses except maybe zeiss (own 2 of them). happy zooming.

Hard to go wrong with those two, really.  Throw in a 16-35 / 4L IS or 16-35 / 2.8L III and you're set.

mordor_74 Contributing Member • Posts: 622
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i love both my 24 and my 50 on apsc so that lens would be the final zoom for me!

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