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Buyer's Regret: GX8

Started Jun 3, 2017 | Discussions
(unknown member) Senior Member • Posts: 1,455
Re: Buyer's Regret: GX8
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nevada5 wrote:

alwinvrm wrote:

If you were looking for a small MFT body, you knew before buying it is not going to be the GX8.

I just bought one to try MFT, since I am migrating away from Fuji to MFT + FF.

I love the pro feel of the GX8 body and dials. Compared with a Fuji x100 (that I love BTW) the GX8 feels like a real camera, think of a film Leica M or Nikon.

WB I adjust in any camera, anyway, and focus and general responsiveness of the GX8 seem excellent.

I regret that you feel bad and seem prone to bad luck in general. I understand your frustration, but having said that the title of your post suggest that the GX8 is the worst camera in the world, which in reality it isn't. It is actually a unique and good camera in my view and the Panasonic track record for consistent quality is among the better manufacturers AFAIK. I have about 30 film cameras and 10 digitals and the GX8 is among my favorites.

The person you replied to said, "...it is the finest package of m43 that I have owned and I have at least six others including Olympus. It feels just right and the EVF is superb. I would highly recommend it to anyone seeking a RF style model."

He doesn't sound too frustrated.

Most likely in flat view so no idea of where in the thread or the date.

I think people should only be able to respond after switching to threaded view but that idea fell on stony ground in the suggestions forum.

I hope you find a better copy of the GX8 and that the evil spirits of camera-land will leave you.

grsnovi Veteran Member • Posts: 3,030
Re: Buyer's Regret: GX8
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Seems like it would be easy enough to lock ancient threads with an attempt to post to something "n" years old and then link back. The system ought to be able to inform the poster: THIS THREAD IS "n" YEARS OLD. IF YOU CONTINUE THIS THREAD WILL BE LOCKED AND YOU REPLY WILL INCLUDE A BACK LINK TO THIS DISCUSSION.

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alwinvrm Forum Member • Posts: 96
Re: Buyer's Regret: GX8
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Thanx, I read the flat view and the date, and I was interested because I just purchased a few MFT cameras including the GX8. I know he had several Panasonics and felt generally good about the system.

Although the title was probably appropriate for the OP and could have been anything like 'I bought a lemon or whatever' and the contents of his post were well put and very reasonable, the title 'buyer's remorse' gave me a feeling of injustice towards the GX8.

Knowing that people don't read and assume that others don't either, I felt I had to say something positive about the GX8 while expressing my sympathy towards the OP.

I regret not having been able to express myself better, and thus having caused unintended reactions.

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vallecano Contributing Member • Posts: 770
Re: Total BS
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Well Said!

Earl

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(unknown member) Senior Member • Posts: 1,455
Re: Buyer's Regret: GX8

alwinvrm wrote:

Thanx, I read the flat view and the date, and I was interested because I just purchased a few MFT cameras including the GX8. I know he had several Panasonics and felt generally good about the system.

Although the title was probably appropriate for the OP and could have been anything like 'I bought a lemon or whatever' and the contents of his post were well put and very reasonable, the title 'buyer's remorse' gave me a feeling of injustice towards the GX8.

Knowing that people don't read and assume that others don't either, I felt I had to say something positive about the GX8 while expressing my sympathy towards the OP.

I regret not having been able to express myself better, and thus having caused unintended reactions.

The irony is you are bringing back to life negative posting on the brand. Easy to do though so I would not worry too much about it. I have had to do a quick delete of a post when I realised how old it was.

jcr4486 Regular Member • Posts: 471
Re: Buyer's Regret: GX8
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maybe you are just unlucky with your unit, assuming is not a configuration problem, maybe you can try to repair or exchange

I had a GX8 for some years that I loved, (G6 and G3 before it) in the menwhile upgraded to G9 (fantastic camera by the way), just miss the tiltable viewfinder of GX8, maybe one day we will see a GX10 or GXX so I can upgrade back to that camera format

but I also purchased already after trading to the G9 other 2 GX8, one for my son and other for my wife, as I loved the camera so much and could be found at incredible price on Pre Christmas sales.

None of the 3 had the issue you described.

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Gerry Siegel
Gerry Siegel Veteran Member • Posts: 3,244
Re: Buyer's Regret: GX8( REDUX is not all bad sometimes I say)
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jcr4486 wrote:

maybe you are just unlucky with your unit, assuming is not a configuration problem, maybe you can try to repair or exchange

I had a GX8 for some years that I loved, (G6 and G3 before it) in the menwhile upgraded to G9 (fantastic camera by the way), just miss the tiltable viewfinder of GX8, maybe one day we will see a GX10 or GXX so I can upgrade back to that camera format

but I also purchased already after trading to the G9 other 2 GX8, one for my son and other for my wife, as I loved the camera so much and could be found at incredible price on Pre Christmas sales.

None of the 3 had the issue you described.

I own two GX 8s, one was mint used and the other a super saver buy on a new one. It is a highly under rated camera for its value and pricing even on the used market. And it really is the top of the GX series as the GX 9 was of a different species apparently.

I am pleased to have bought two of the GX 8 one of Panasonic's finest achievements.

At the time, the world- correction DPR reviewer ( who titled the article THE Big BEAST- ) did not give it the accolades it deserved. it did not take long for user to discover its merits.

It gets the distinguished service cross award of merit bit late, granted that, -- but not posthumously,

if you catch my metaphorical drift and I know you do. Aloha

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cameron2 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,142
Re: Time Expired Buyer's Regret
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James Stirling wrote:

AllFlawed wrote:

I would think all these people have got over their buyer's regret by now.

The pain never goes away

I just purchased the new Nikon F and I'm having a hard time with the film rewind ...

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alwinvrm Forum Member • Posts: 96
Re: Time Expired Buyer's Regret
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cameron2 wrote:

James Stirling wrote:

AllFlawed wrote:

I would think all these people have got over their buyer's regret by now.

The pain never goes away

I just purchased the new Nikon F and I'm having a hard time with the film rewind ...

My F1's rewind is still fine 😊

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(unknown member) Senior Member • Posts: 1,455
Re: Buyer's Regret: GX8( REDUX is not all bad sometimes I say)
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Gerry Siegel wrote:

jcr4486 wrote:

maybe you are just unlucky with your unit, assuming is not a configuration problem, maybe you can try to repair or exchange

I had a GX8 for some years that I loved, (G6 and G3 before it) in the menwhile upgraded to G9 (fantastic camera by the way), just miss the tiltable viewfinder of GX8, maybe one day we will see a GX10 or GXX so I can upgrade back to that camera format

but I also purchased already after trading to the G9 other 2 GX8, one for my son and other for my wife, as I loved the camera so much and could be found at incredible price on Pre Christmas sales.

None of the 3 had the issue you described.

I own two GX 8s, one was mint used and the other a super saver buy on a new one. It is a highly under rated camera for its value and pricing even on the used market. And it really is the top of the GX series as the GX 9 was of a different species apparently.

I am pleased to have bought two of the GX 8 one of Panasonic's finest achievements.

At the time, the world- correction DPR reviewer ( who titled the article THE Big BEAST- ) did not give it the accolades it deserved. it did not take long for user to discover its merits.

It gets the distinguished service cross award of merit bit late, granted that, -- but not posthumously,

if you catch my metaphorical drift and I know you do. Aloha

There is a certain comedy in people persistently rejuvenating a 2017 negative post regretting buying a camera to say they love a camera.

pattymeboy Contributing Member • Posts: 616
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I have owned 3 of the Lumix GX line up, the GX85, GX9, and the GX8. The 85, I gave to my daughter, the 9 I returned to Adorama. I kept the GX8 and paid only $330 USD 2 years ago. I love everything about the camera and can afford to buy some nice glass for it. I look at it this way, 5 years ago, the camera was over $1000 dollars and the so-called experts pretty well destroyed the sales on it with their negative reviews, then. Now, the camera is revered and still relevant. And, hard to find at $500 USD. Actually, I am glad to see the so-called experts (sheep) getting reminded of their negativity. Perhaps a comeuppance?

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(unknown member) Senior Member • Posts: 1,455
Re: Buyer's Regret: GX8( REDUX is not all bad sometimes I say)
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pattymeboy wrote:

I have owned 3 of the Lumix GX line up, the GX85, GX9, and the GX8. The 85, I gave to my daughter, the 9 I returned to Adorama. I kept the GX8 and paid only $330 USD 2 years ago. I love everything about the camera and can afford to buy some nice glass for it. I look at it this way, 5 years ago, the camera was over $1000 dollars and the so-called experts pretty well destroyed the sales on it with their negative reviews, then. Now, the camera is revered and still relevant. And, hard to find at $500 USD. Actually, I am glad to see the so-called experts (sheep) getting reminded of their negativity. Perhaps a comeuppance?

Yet many just idly browsing or in their google returns will see only Buyers Regret GX8 and pass on.

Like these posts from the comedians that say in the title a camera is the worst thing ever and totally useless but say in the text only joking. Probably not a good idea as probably as a lot of people do not get past the title. In fact if I was negative shilling it would be a good quick and easy way to create negative impact and get around the mods.

alwinvrm Forum Member • Posts: 96
Re: Buyer's Regret: GX8( REDUX is not all bad sometimes I say)
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Well put; that is what I meant, and why I restarted this thread.

In a one liner world, one liners like 'M43 is dead' and 'GX8 buyer's remorse' become unfortunately meaningful.

While in this case the OP didn't  even seem intent to bash  a camera or seek attention.

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j tokarz Senior Member • Posts: 1,388
Re: Buyer's Regret: GX8

You must have a faulty camera. I don't have one now but i did own one. The picture quality was incredible. So good i traded for a G9, which i love. BUT for some reason the pictures from the GX8 were in my oppinion, better. Its a fantastic camera.

Gerry Siegel
Gerry Siegel Veteran Member • Posts: 3,244
GX8 will march on forever to those who do admire it
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I would add that the form of the GX 8 was and still is desirable to many users.  To me it represents a vote for the rangefinder style of the product.

There being no logical need for the SLR style which is neo classical if it were architecture.  It is not so old.

Reviving an old thread with a tarnished title is not a gross problem.  Not if it is relevant,  adds value, and encourages use of the camera you have over the one in your crystal ball.

Whoops, that surely defeats the wisdom of the new has got to be better.  Look no further, if you are budget constrained than the overlooked older yet great products. It feels good.

Love means never having to say you're sorry.  Doing a search,  call it excavation and embelisshment of the archives.  Not so bad, Not gauche. Beats the calls for advice over which strap to buy.  Oops, sorry strappers.

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timo Veteran Member • Posts: 5,927
Re: GX8 will march on forever to those who do admire it
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Gerry Siegel wrote:

I would add that the form of the GX 8 was and still is desirable to many users. To me it represents a vote for the rangefinder style of the product.

There being no logical need for the SLR style which is neo classical if it were architecture. It is not so old.

Reviving an old thread with a tarnished title is not a gross problem. Not if it is relevant, adds value, and encourages use of the camera you have over the one in your crystal ball.

Whoops, that surely defeats the wisdom of the new has got to be better. Look no further, if you are budget constrained than the overlooked older yet great products. It feels good.

Love means never having to say you're sorry. Doing a search, call it excavation and embelisshment of the archives. Not so bad, Not gauche. Beats the calls for advice over which strap to buy. Oops, sorry strappers.

I agree. Never quite sure why the forum etiquette police complain about reviving old threads - many of them contain a lot of useful information that is otherwise effectively lost. There are always people too anxious to block things. And no, the search facility is not always effective. You have to enter the right search term. Anyway, the appeal of these forums is partly that you stumble across useful knowledge that you were not actively looking for.

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Gerry Siegel Veteran Member • Posts: 3,244
Re: GX8 will march on forever to those who do admire it
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timo wrote:

Gerry Siegel wrote:

I would add that the form of the GX 8 was and still is desirable to many users. To me it represents a vote for the rangefinder style of the product.

There being no logical need for the SLR style which is neo classical if it were architecture. It is not so old.

Reviving an old thread with a tarnished title is not a gross problem. Not if it is relevant, adds value, and encourages use of the camera you have over the one in your crystal ball.

Whoops, that surely defeats the wisdom of the new has got to be better. Look no further, if you are budget constrained than the overlooked older yet great products. It feels good.

Love means never having to say you're sorry. Doing a search, call it excavation and embelisshment of the archives. Not so bad, Not gauche. Beats the calls for advice over which strap to buy. Oops, sorry strappers.

I agree. Never quite sure why the forum etiquette police complain about reviving old threads - many of them contain a lot of useful information that is otherwise effectively lost. There are always people too anxious to block things. And no, the search facility is not always effective. You have to enter the right search term. Anyway, the appeal of these forums is partly that you stumble across useful knowledge that you were not actively looking for.

Amen. To those who OMG, alert all of us that it is an older/oldish? - thread commented upon,  I call them the Ahah Gotcha Society, the AGS are easily amused at found gotchas. and deride us by indirection for not noticing it is NOT  the latest thread as if we need to be kept alert to dates, and not  the latest hot skinny on neck strap choices or our very worst camera buys of all time, hot stuff for cold days with the kids

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Why chat about a camera that is out of production indeed? Is it not back catalogue and passe/.

Takes me six months to get familiar with the menu. Along comes a firmware upgrade a year later. A new Mk !! iteration in de facto terms often.

( New poop--I called RRS for an Arca Swiss GX 8 plate was told the camera was not popular enough for them to craft one. aAcompany called Acra Tech had one that fit good.. .)

I love 'em all, the long and the short n the tall, tho m43 Panasonics = current squeeze.

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