Which full frame lenses are missing?

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panther fan Regular Member • Posts: 255
Which full frame lenses are missing?
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Sony has now a nearly completed lens line up as you can see below. Which lenses do you think sony should produce next?

So now Sony has:

Wide Angle zoom:

12-24 F4 G

16-35 F4 Sony/Zeiss OSS

16-35 F2.8 GM

Midrange zoom:

28-70 F3.5-5.6 OSS

24-70 F4 Sony/Zeiss OSS

24-70 F2.8 GM

24-240 F3.5-6.3 OSS

28-135 F4 G PZ OSS

Tele zoom:

70-200 F4 G OSS

70-200 F2.8 GM OSS

70-300 F4.5-5.6 G OSS

100-400 F4.5-5.6 GM OSS

Wide angle prime:

18mm F2.8 Batis

21mm F2.8 Loxia

25mm F2 Batis

Medium wide angle:

28mm F2

35mm F1.4 Sony/Zeiss

35mm F2 Loxia

35mm F2.8 Sony/Zeiss

Standard:

50mm F1.8

50mm F2.8 Macro

50mm F2 Loxia

55mm F1.8 Sony/Zeiss

50mm F1.4 Sony/Zeiss

Portrait:

85mm F2.4 Loxia

85mm F1.8

85mm F1.8 Batis OSS

85mm F1.4 GM

90mm F2.8 Macro OSS

100mm F2.8 STF GM OSS

135mm F2.8 Batis OSS

And all that complem­ented by

Samyang 14mm F2.8 AF

Samyang 35mm F2.8 AF

Samyang 50mm F1.4 AF

Voigtländer 10mm F5.6

Voigtländer 12mm F5.6

Voigtländer 15mm F4.5

Voigtländer 65mm F2 Macro

Tokina Firin 20mm F2

I think we can say that not many lenses are missing. The obvious ones are:

-24-105 F4

-35mm F2

-Some Tele Prime

-135mm F1.8

Which lenses do you want?

Sony FE 24-240mm F3.5-6.3 OSS
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gphome Regular Member • Posts: 361
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24-105 F4, decent walk around zoom

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Eldorage
Eldorage Junior Member • Posts: 28
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gphome wrote:

24-105 F4, decent walk around zoom

This.

Today Sony revealed the 12-24mm F4 which is very compact. Hopefully they can make a nice compact 24-105mm F4 also.

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OP panther fan Regular Member • Posts: 255
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The 12-24 F4 is phenomenally light. I hope the 24-105 F4 could also be half the weight of the sigma.

But dreams aside a little lighter would be nice.

Snikt228 Senior Member • Posts: 1,025
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For me 35 F2 AF, pretty compact maybe G or regular Sony

24-105 or 24-120 F4, G or Zeiss. Has to be decent quality

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Roses Senior Member • Posts: 2,721
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FF lenses still on my wish list:

135mm/f1.8 or f2

35mm or 40mm/f1.8 or f2, compact and light

200mm/f2.8

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LiveFromPhilly
LiveFromPhilly Regular Member • Posts: 331
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24-105/120 is the one that would likely be a big seller, and if they want sports shooters then they should go for some telephotos.

Personally, i would love to see a low priced 40mm f/2.8 pancake similar to the one Canon makes. 40mm Is a wonderful focal length for street in particular and feels different enough from 55mm that I wouldn't mind picking it up when I want one light lens (although I'm sure if it's priced like the Canon it would cut into 35mm Sony Ziess sales).

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James Bay Bill
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Sony's lens lineup is moving along nicely. A fast tele prime, a 16mm fisheye, and a tilt-shift lens would be welcome.

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Dan_168 Veteran Member • Posts: 8,405
14 1.8, Tilt/Shift lenses, 70-300 DO......
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At this particular moment, I am looking for a 14mm F1.8 or even better anything wider and faster would get my money, since I am still waiting for the Sigma 14 F1.8, it will be a great addition for the Milky way shooting I am doing.

Also a native Tilt/Shift would be nice too, I am using both Canon TSE 17 and 24 on my Sony but won't hurt to have a native mount Sony one with the same or even better optic quality.

On the long side, while it would be nice to have those 200F2 300 F2.8, 400 2.8, 500 F4 in native mount, but in my own case, I just simply don't care to use the such tiny camera with big lens, so I would never buy one myself even they introduce all those tomorrow at half of the cost of the Canon and Nikon counterpart, I would still stick with my Nikon and Canon system when it comes to using large lens, but something small and light would be nice for my A7R II, such as the Canon 70-300 DO, ( Diffractive Optical Element), it's no super telephoto 300 F2.8 quality, but you can actually fit that in the pocket of your jacket and bring it to anywhere. can't do that with a 300 2.8, I can't even bring that sucker into any event if I am not official photographer, but I can do it with the DO lens anywhere.

gphome Regular Member • Posts: 361
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panther fan wrote:

The 12-24 F4 is phenomenally light. I hope the 24-105 F4 could also be half the weight of the sigma.

But dreams aside a little lighter would be nice.

Indeed, my 24-240 is basically a very heavy 24-140 as I don't go past 140mm as it falls apart IQ wise

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OP panther fan Regular Member • Posts: 255
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gphome wrote:

panther fan wrote:

The 12-24 F4 is phenomenally light. I hope the 24-105 F4 could also be half the weight of the sigma.

But dreams aside a little lighter would be nice.

Indeed, my 24-240 is basically a very heavy 24-140 as I don't go past 140mm as it falls apart IQ wise

I actually think about buying it just for 24-150 use. But i read that 24mm isn't great and i don't want a 28-150.

What do you think about the performance at 24mm?

mgonda Contributing Member • Posts: 568
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panther fan wrote:

Sony has now a nearly completed lens line up as you can see below. Which lenses do you think sony should produce next?

So now Sony has:

Wide angle prime:

18mm F2.8 Batis

21mm F2.8 Loxia

25mm F2 Batis

While these are excellent lenses, none of them are Sony.  Also, Sony needs to complete/fill out their f1.8 range primes.

20mm/1.8 AF

24mm/1.8 AF

35mm/1.8 AF

Medium wide angle:

28mm F2

I would put 28mm/2 into wide than medium since its closer to 24 than 25.

I think we can say that not many lenses are missing. The obvious ones are:

-24-105 F4

-35mm F2

-Some Tele Prime

-135mm F1.8

Which lenses do you want?

How about lower cost lenses..... It seems that every lens released are $1.5K~$2.5KUS.  Not all Sony lenses don't need to be priced like Zeiss.  Just go look at other excellent optics from Nikon, Canon, Sigma and so on...

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A version 2 of the current 50mm f1.8
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The current one's AF motor and moving front element are really big drawbacks for me. Slow and noisy, I can't use it much for discreet, reactive photography. The size and aperture are great, and even the image quality is fine, just needs a new version that's a bit more refined.

I have the 50mm f1.4, which is a beast of a 50mm. Fun, and stunning in mage quality, but more lens than I really want to have sticking out in front of people's faces. The only reason I don't take the 55mm f1.8 is the odd looking hard edged bokeh, which I feel is too distracting.

Bruce Oudekerk
Bruce Oudekerk Veteran Member • Posts: 3,549
Has anyone mentioned a 24-105? :)
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It's such a glaring gap it must be difficult to construct one that is optically very good while keeping the size/weight modest. Everyone has mentioned a fixed f4.0 but I’d take a variable aperture if it allowed a smaller lens and still producing sufficiently high quality images. If they can throw in an extra 15mm that would be nice.

To keep the ‘sports shooters’ happy we’ll need a 300mm f2.8 and something like a 500mm f4.0

Bruce

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Jrnichols5 Contributing Member • Posts: 604
Re: 14 1.8, Tilt/Shift lenses, 70-300 DO......

Dan_168 wrote:

At this particular moment, I am looking for a 14mm F1.8 or even better anything wider and faster would get my money, since I am still waiting for the Sigma 14 F1.8, it will be a great addition for the Milky way shooting I am doing.

THIS! Would love an UWA lens for landscapes, real estate and astro work! I would even sacrifice autofocus if they could make it smaller and <= f2.

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Dan_168 Veteran Member • Posts: 8,405
Re: 14 1.8, Tilt/Shift lenses, 70-300 DO......

Jrnichols5 wrote:

Dan_168 wrote:

At this particular moment, I am looking for a 14mm F1.8 or even better anything wider and faster would get my money, since I am still waiting for the Sigma 14 F1.8, it will be a great addition for the Milky way shooting I am doing.

THIS! Would love an UWA lens for landscapes, real estate and astro work! I would even sacrifice autofocus if they could make it smaller and <= f2.

Actually I wish it's MF only !!! I never use AF for astro and landscape even with all my AF lenses.

JimKasson
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Re: Has anyone mentioned a 24-105? :)
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Bruce Oudekerk wrote:

It's such a glaring gap it must be difficult to construct one that is optically very good while keeping the size/weight modest. Everyone has mentioned a fixed f4.0 but I’d take a variable aperture if it allowed a smaller lens and still producing sufficiently high quality images. If they can throw in an extra 15mm that would be nice.

To keep the ‘sports shooters’ happy we’ll need a 300mm f2.8 and something like a 500mm f4.0

Bruce, I was gonna sit this one out, but here are some lenses that I use that as yet have no Sony FE equivalents:

  • 24-120/4
  • 105/1.4
  • 60/4 IR-friendly macro
  • 24/1.4
  • 180/3.4, 2.8
  • 135/2
  • 35/2
  • 300/4 PF
  • 180/2.8 macro
  • 8/2.8 Fisheye
  • The big iron sports/wildlife lenses: you know them all.

A lot of these are niche fillers, though.

Jim

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Dan_168 Veteran Member • Posts: 8,405
Re: Has anyone mentioned a 24-105? :)
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JimKasson wrote:

Bruce Oudekerk wrote:

It's such a glaring gap it must be difficult to construct one that is optically very good while keeping the size/weight modest. Everyone has mentioned a fixed f4.0 but I’d take a variable aperture if it allowed a smaller lens and still producing sufficiently high quality images. If they can throw in an extra 15mm that would be nice.

To keep the ‘sports shooters’ happy we’ll need a 300mm f2.8 and something like a 500mm f4.0

Bruce, I was gonna sit this one out, but here are some lenses that I use that as yet have no Sony FE equivalents:

  • 24-120/4
  • 105/1.4
  • 60/4 IR-friendly macro
  • 24/1.4
  • 180/3.4, 2.8
  • 135/2
  • 35/2
  • 300/4 PF
  • 180/2.8 macro
  • 8/2.8 Fisheye
  • The big iron sports/wildlife lenses: you know them all.

A lot of these are niche fillers, though.

Jim

Yeah maybe niche fillers but I like all of those you listed except for the 24-120/4 and 35/2, just no fan of slow lens, I was actually about to say how about a 35 1.2 that is sharper than my current SLR magic 35/1.2.

E Dinkla Senior Member • Posts: 1,422
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A fast prime lens in between 55 and 85mm

The Voigtländer 65mm 2.0 might be it, otherwise a 70 or 75mm 1.8

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OmarCCX
OmarCCX Regular Member • Posts: 338
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I really really really just want a 24mm 1.4. I love the SIgma Art 24mm. With that and a 55 1.8, I have no need for any other lenses.

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