Flashpoint Studio 400 HSS Monolight with Built-in R2 2.4GHz

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svguy Junior Member • Posts: 27
Flashpoint Studio 400 HSS Monolight with Built-in R2 2.4GHz

Have you seen this light advertised on Adorama for $149? I just talked to them and he said it has HSS, 2.4ghz built in, small modeling light. Sounds like just what I need! Obviously it's a rebranded godox light but I can't figure out what it might be?

I know with lighting you really "get what you pay for" but with the 2.4 built in, bowens mount, and HSS, it sounds promising.

Just wondering if anyone has some information on this light. He says it will be available in mid-late june.

Tom

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kli
kli Veteran Member • Posts: 4,677
Re: Flashpoint Studio 400 HSS Monolight with Built-in R2 2.4GHz

Just for the curious, here's the Adorama listing.

https://www.adorama.com/fplfs400b.html

There's no product picture or anything, and looks like an upcoming light. The MFR code is S-400-R2.

My guess would be that this is Godox going in and updating their low-cost studio strobes for the X1/R2 system, since there are issues in trying to use the current FT-16 capable lights with an X1/XTR-16 combo. Possibly updating the SK series? Since there's also a 300 Ws listing:

https://www.adorama.com/fplfs300b.html

Might wanna keep an eye on elv's FlashHavoc blog to see if he gets details on 'em or check out SK400/SK300 reviews.

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OP svguy Junior Member • Posts: 27
Re: Flashpoint Studio 400 HSS Monolight with Built-in R2 2.4GHz

I'm hopeful it's the same as the Godox QT400II

Wishful thinking?

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kli
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Re: Flashpoint Studio 400 HSS Monolight with Built-in R2 2.4GHz

svguy wrote:

I'm hopeful it's the same as the Godox QT400II

Wishful thinking?

Given that that's a $550 strobe, I'd say yeah. But it's always fun to dream.

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Re: Flashpoint Studio 400 HSS Monolight with Built-in R2 2.4GHz

Just in case you were curious, elv at Flash Havoc has the skinny:

http://flashhavoc.com/flashpoint-studio-300-400-monolights-announced/

They're basically the Godox SKII strobes. Godox has updated the SK and QS strobes with X/R2 system compatibility.

http://www.godox.com/EN/Products_Studio_Flash_SKII_Series.html

http://www.godox.com/EN/Products_Studio_Flash_QSII_Series.html

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OP svguy Junior Member • Posts: 27
Re: Flashpoint Studio 400 HSS Monolight with Built-in R2 2.4GHz

Yes I found that too. As long as they are not the "DE" version, I'm going to try them! I tried the DE300 and it was terrible. It would often NOT fire unless set to half or full power. Anything under that and it simply would not fire. I sent it back.

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EdwardWestonNYC Contributing Member • Posts: 655
Re: Flashpoint Studio 400 HSS Monolight with Built-in R2 2.4GHz

I have three of these Flashpoint Studio 400 R2 Monolights and 1 Xplor600 Non ttl. These replaced my Profoto 6s and Profoto 7B system. Although the Profotos are GREAT they are insanely expensive and unlike the Xplor600 do not have built in radios, a controller or highspeed sync (note the Studio 400 monolights at $149 are NON HSS - there is one that looks just the same but $400-500 range - that has HSS). The XPlor600 has HSS.

I had two heads for profoto 6 (studio) and 2 for my 7B).

However, I love the built in radios, controller (and now the new Nikon Command controller is coming out - which looks even easier to use).

I have no regrets. The Profoto gear didn't hold its value as well as it used to.

I've used the Flashpoints to shoot professional jobs (most recently posters for CBS) and they performed great. The universal Bowens mount is a huge plus too.

The downsides? Well, they are mostly plastic, so unlike the profotos they cannot handle rough abuse. If it falls, chances they will break. I use mostly C-stands and Junior Risers - all made for much heavier gear and sandbag it all down.

But on a Profoto - although it can survive a fall perhaps a bit better. The glass dome is $500 to replace and the flashtube is $400. This falls, even if you have to replace the whole unit its $150.

Cross my fingers, I've never had a light fall (except on a grass field once).

So it was a mixture of cost and features (of course the new profoto gear has command units, computer software, etc but it is all insanely priced to own) and I still get beautiful light from both systems. Plus I'm able to afford 4-6 lights on Flashpoint.

Tdoan
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Resurrecting an old thread: Flashpoint Studio 400 HSS Monolight with Built-in R2 2.4GHz

These lights are on sale now at $119.95 so I said what the heck? That's a little more than one night out .. and one can't never enough light and light stand right?

Well, it got here on Friday and I really like it.  CON:  big (make sure you got a good stand and sandbag it), not portable (though it will probably work well with a Buff vagabond if I want to take it outside, but the sheer size of it -> nahhh).  Other than that, there's nothing not to like about it.  Like all my other FP toys, it just works and from my limited testing, works well.  A bonus:  even though it not advertised as HSS, HSS works fine all the way up to 1/8000s.  Using it as an indoor strobe, I don't know if I will ever need HSS.  Just nice to know that it is there I guess

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Does it have auto-dump? The old Mk I didn't. You'd have to hit the TEST button between shots if you moved from a higher power level to a lower one.

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kli wrote:

Does it have auto-dump? The old Mk I didn't. You'd have to hit the TEST button between shots if you moved from a higher power level to a lower one.

No and it only goes down to 1/16 at lowest output.  Both possible negatives, but for me, I knew about those limitations going in so not a problem as there are easy workaround

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Tdoan wrote:

kli wrote:

Does it have auto-dump? The old Mk I didn't. You'd have to hit the TEST button between shots if you moved from a higher power level to a lower one.

No and it only goes down to 1/16 at lowest output. Both possible negatives, but for me, I knew about those limitations going in so not a problem as there are easy workaround

Tien,

I agree these are great value. I've had 4 of the 300s for some time now (got them when they 1st came out). I use/abuse them for macro work and they haven't given me a problem yet and I have many 1000s of flashes, great value IMO.

Best,

Mike

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mawyatt2002 wrote:

Tdoan wrote:

kli wrote:

Does it have auto-dump? The old Mk I didn't. You'd have to hit the TEST button between shots if you moved from a higher power level to a lower one.

No and it only goes down to 1/16 at lowest output. Both possible negatives, but for me, I knew about those limitations going in so not a problem as there are easy workaround

Tien,

I agree these are great value. I've had 4 of the 300s for some time now (got them when they 1st came out). I use/abuse them for macro work and they haven't given me a problem yet and I have many 1000s of flashes, great value IMO.

Best,

Mike

Should mention only complaint outside the lower power limit and lack of dumping, is the reflectors are shorter than the modeling bulb. This caused me to melt some foam diffusing material. I'll probably replace these with some cheap eBay Bowens 7" reflectors.

Best,

Mike

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Re: Resurrecting an old thread: Flashpoint Studio 400 HSS Monolight with Built-in R2 2.4GHz

mawyatt2002 wrote:

mawyatt2002 wrote:

Tdoan wrote:

kli wrote:

Does it have auto-dump? The old Mk I didn't. You'd have to hit the TEST button between shots if you moved from a higher power level to a lower one.

No and it only goes down to 1/16 at lowest output. Both possible negatives, but for me, I knew about those limitations going in so not a problem as there are easy workaround

Tien,

I agree these are great value. I've had 4 of the 300s for some time now (got them when they 1st came out). I use/abuse them for macro work and they haven't given me a problem yet and I have many 1000s of flashes, great value IMO.

Best,

Mike

Should mention only complaint outside the lower power limit and lack of dumping, is the reflectors are shorter than the modeling bulb. This caused me to melt some foam diffusing material. I'll probably replace these with some cheap eBay Bowens 7" reflectors.

Best,

Mike

Hi Mike

lol I didn't even notice that. I got the light with the plan to use it as rim light so immediately I put one of this reflector on w/barn doors and grid, https://www.ebay.com/itm/Godox-Bowens-Mount-Reflector-for-Studio-Flash-Barn-Door-Honeycomb-Grid-Filter-/262552239270?hash=item3d21553ca6

On checking, the bulb extends ~1/4" or less beyond the reflector that was shipped. That's silly, can't believe they did that.

Glad to hear they've been reliable for you.  I am not nearly as hard on mine (in the past anyway) so.. crossing my fingers

Have a good afternoon Mike.

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OP svguy Junior Member • Posts: 27
Re: Resurrecting an old thread: Flashpoint Studio 400 HSS Monolight with Built-in R2 2.4GHz

I've had mine now for a few months and have done several shoots with them. Not one problem. I got the 300W lights, for the fact that I had a feeling they would not go very low. For the studio, I have zero complaints. These things are a steal as the 300W is now only $99 bucks. It's no convenient having the radio built in.

Yes they are made of plastic, but as stated in this thread, any light that takes a good fall is probably going to break. For $99, just buy another.

When using a softbox, I use a daylight LED bulb something like this: https://www.amazon.com/GE-Lighting-32309-Replacement-1520-Lumen/dp/B017WY4IJU/

They run MUCH cooler and the modeling light is much more pleasant than the bulb it comes with. I can't find the link to the bulbs I bought so just beware you may have to try a few to see which works best. I don't know if it will fit inside the mini rim light reflector that it comes with.

Attached is a photo I did with these lights.

Tom

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Re: Resurrecting an old thread: Flashpoint Studio 400 HSS Monolight with Built-in R2 2.4GHz

Tom,

I was considering doing this with the LED lamp since the modeling lamps get so hot and protrude past the reflectors that come with the 300s. I've already melted some diffusion foam because of this heat and protrusion.

Do you get good proportional control with the LEDs?

Thanks,

Mike

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