Birding with the FZ82

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nexpirate Regular Member • Posts: 114
Birding with the FZ82
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As a long time user of a P610, P900 and also a B700, I've been using the FZ82 for bird photography this week. I chose the camera as I need something portable when out walking. In comparison to the Nikons, the AF speed is leagues ahead, as is the target acquisition. I'm still changing the settings regularly, but generally I'm quite happy with the results for this type of camera. The spring light has been difficult with the bright sun and shadows, but bearing in mind all these shots are hand held and at the telephoto end, either at 1200mm or very near, they have come out ok. Using the DPR uploader loses much of the detail though!. Other than the the lack of an eye sensor (which you get used to very quickly), I can't really fault the camera.

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Ronomy
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Very nice captures and good to hear it's working out quite well.  Price is right too for a long reach camera like this.

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Nice shots. I am having a few problems with spot focus, it keeps hunting. What settings are you using please.

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seajunky wrote:

Nice shots. I am having a few problems with spot focus, it keeps hunting. What settings are you using please.

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I've been getting used to the AF and have struggled to get it right. I've been going between spot and centre focus. The problem with small birds in trees is that the af tends to focus on a branch or bud just in front or behind the bird and this would be a test for most cameras. I mostly used spot focus on the bird's head and despite a few missses, it's still better than the Nikon cameras for accuracy. I've find the focus point keeps moving despite the touch AF mostly being disabled. Usually I've been using aperture priority, but tried manual at 1/500 shutter speed, auto ISO and WB,  iresolution set to low. I'll be changing a few settings again tomorrow as the shadows seem a bit noisy, but then again it's a tiny sensor at 1200mm, so I'm not expecting miracles!.

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Good set, impressive detail at 1200mm. I think Panasonic will sell many of these.

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nexpirate wrote:

seajunky wrote:

Nice shots. I am having a few problems with spot focus, it keeps hunting. What settings are you using please.

Steve

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I've been getting used to the AF and have struggled to get it right. I've been going between spot and centre focus. The problem with small birds in trees is that the af tends to focus on a branch or bud just in front or behind the bird and this would be a test for most cameras. I mostly used spot focus on the bird's head and despite a few missses, it's still better than the Nikon cameras for accuracy. I've find the focus point keeps moving despite the touch AF mostly being disabled. Usually I've been using aperture priority, but tried manual at 1/500 shutter speed, auto ISO and WB, iresolution set to low. I'll be changing a few settings again tomorrow as the shadows seem a bit noisy, but then again it's a tiny sensor at 1200mm, so I'm not expecting miracles!.

Spot focus really wants something with contrast at (not near) the spot. OK for birds in a nest but not (at least for me) when the birds move.

I tend to use a small center box, move the camera to so the box is over the eye if possible, half-press and hold. Then reframe, wait, shoot. Keep in mind that the DOF is very shallow, so you can't drift your body toward/away from the bird.

I use the eyepiece and don't find that the spot moves. Touch Screen is on (so I can access the fn keys) but both touch AF and touch pad AF are off.  I don't know why Panny enables the touch when the eyepiece is on. Makes no sense to me.

FWIW, Even with NR set to low, I found that I I was getting smearing in the JPGs compared to  the Raw files.

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Sherm you have the FZ80?  Or are you comparing with something else?

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Ronomy wrote:

Sherm you have the FZ80? Or are you comparing with something else?

I do have the FZ80. Agree with pretty much everything ANAYV has been saying about it (and his comparisons with the long-lens P610/P900), although I do find that I get some fine detail smearing in even low-NR JPGs which are better handled in .RAW

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Ronomy wrote:

Sherm you have the FZ80? Or are you comparing with something else?

I do have the FZ80. Agree with pretty much everything ANAYV has been saying about it (and his comparisons with the long-lens P610/P900), although I do find that I get some fine detail smearing in even low-NR JPGs which are better handled in .RAW

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My first FZ200 was like that.  I always had some smearing even with NR set to -2.  But my newer FZ200 is very good...Never smears and I use NR-1 in standard mode.  SH-2.  Detail is fantastic and no halos along straight edges.

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Great looking results. I'm starting to see a number of good images from this camera now. It definitely seems to be an improvement on its predecessor.

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igaleian Contributing Member • Posts: 541
Re: Birding with the FZ82 are you using EZ or IZ

I believe the camera has both which extend the zoom range

has anybody tried them?

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igaleian wrote:

I believe the camera has both which extend the zoom range

has anybody tried them?

Ian

I need all the sensor I can get.  The cropped-sensor modes all increase my tailless- and beak-less bird count.

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myssvictoria Veteran Member • Posts: 5,891
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I don't know why Panny enables the touch when the eyepiece is on. Makes no sense to me.

I didn't know that, Sherm. Huh, explains the focus box moving. Guess I'll have to read the manual on that subject. Thanks for pointing that out.

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myssvictoria Veteran Member • Posts: 5,891
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Nice shots of little birds! Regarding focus, I've configured my FZ80 to back button focus so that once I get focus on a little bird in branches, the camera won't refocus on something else until I press the back button again.

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Halina123 Senior Member • Posts: 1,163
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Nice collection of cameras and good photos of birds.  Better than mine!

I'm struggling to get acceptable images of small birds with my smaller cameras.  A Sony HX50 with a 30X zoom with a 750mm equivalent max FL.  An Olympus SZ 30 with max 600mm equivalent FL.  And. Nikon 1 zoom with max 300mm equivalent FL.

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Nice shots, keep shooting,  we love seeing bird pictures.

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slawekpar Junior Member • Posts: 32
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Nice photos. Did you take BIFs at 1200mm? Could you post a few photos?. I was really disappointed with BIFs taken with P900. It looks that FZ80 will be much better in this aspect.

OP nexpirate Regular Member • Posts: 114
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Few more of the Chiffchaff. There's much more detail in the original ones. These birds only sit still when they sing and there's usually a load of twigs in the way!.

seajunky
seajunky Senior Member • Posts: 1,708
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Hi myssvictoria long time no speak. Could you please explain how you set the "back button" up for focus please. I think this old man is a bit thick when it comes to technology

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igaleian Contributing Member • Posts: 541
Re: Birding with the FZ82

also are you using EZ and IZ  extra zoom

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