EOS M10 and Canon EF-M 22mm f/2 STM?

Hello!!

I had Canon Powershot G9 and I have it as reference. It has served me well (at least mostly) for the last 10 years but now I feel I want to replace it. I have it as a referece for size/weight as well. Before that I had a EOS350D+kitlens and I hated it because of its bulkiness and heaviness and also no LCD-shooting. (LOL) But it did take nice photos.

I bought Powershot G7x Mark II by error, I thought by being Powershot G series it would be good and the seller said it is good, and having large sensor, good, large lens, good. Nice large opening.

(then I am not soo good at the technicals)

I usually use Av (Aperture priority) state, in low ISO in daylight, indoor, no tripod. That's how I work. What I take photos of is of products, in my case 30 cm (12 inches) tall dolls and sometimes smaller - macro photos. That's my main reason to buy.

Then if I can use it for outdoor photos too and touristy things too it is good, but not primary use and should not sacrifice the primary use.

G7x II was bad because I feel it produced too soft photos so I returned it.

Someone suggested me to buy EOS M10 and 28 mm lens. But then I realized he might go by the reference of "super close macro" when I really need to be able to photograph from a distance of 50-70 cm to catch the entire doll, but also close up photos (detail shots) from closer range.

I tried to find a lens that would work for me, but me being NOT tech-savvy I am a little unsure.

"Canon EF-M 22mm f/2 STM" has the advantage of being small.

Will this combination work for me, or would you like to suggest something else, or even entirely another camera?

My photos I took with G9 and the main motif,

https://www.flickr.com/photos/funnybunny/albums/1564681

I sell doll clothes I make so that's why.

Thank you so much,

Helena

First of all: The G7x Mark II should be able to produce better pictures than the G9. Did you stop down the lense a bit or did you always shoot wide open? Did you use proper ISO settings (not too high due to the "small" sensor)? For your macro work you have to stop down to at least to 8.0 if you want lots of stuff in focus. This will lead to higher shutter speeds so you have to be carefull that the camera is stable.

The M10 is a nice "entry level" camera, but I'm not too sure if you would like to use it solely with prime lenses and if it would fit your style of photography. The sensor of the M10 is even bigger than that of the G7x, thus it's quite hard to get "macro shots" without blur. The question is: At which focal length do you shoot mainly? Do you use the zoom functionality of your current camera a lot? You should compare the focal length of your current photos with the focal length of e.g. the 22mm or the 28mm (don't forget to factor in the crop factor for the sensor, for Canon APS-C it's 1.6, for the G9 it's 4.558). The 28mm macro would've helped in some of your shots as some of the close-ups are not properly focused (or made with digital focus, I can't tell).

Other than that: Nice shots! You did a great job with the G9.

Regarding the mentioned lenses:

The 28mm is a "lifestyle" / "all around" lense as well, not only a super macro lense, you don't have to use the "macro mode". The ring light can help to get some additional illumination if you are really close to the subject. Moreover it is stabilized. But the minimum aperture is quite high (3.5), which will lead to higher shutter speeds. For your doll pictures the aperture is a none-issue as you would have to stop down the lense anyway.

The 22mm is a really sharp and versatile lense as well. It is well suited for "whole body portraits". But this is for human sized objects, for your dolls you don't specifically need this "wide angle" field of view. A 50mm lense (like the 1.8 STM) or the 40mm 2.8 might work good as well but they require an adapter and are not as small as native lenses. The "tele" lenses have a more pleasant look for portraits, as they don't have as much perspective distortion as wide angle lenses. And don't forget that the 22mm is not optically stabilized. On the other hand wide angle lenses have a larger depth of field which might suite your shooting style.

In theory the G7x MII should be a good match for you. Maybe you did have a faulty copy or used the wrong settings?

HelenaH your website pictures are much more than adequate, in fact quite good. A new camera is fun and worth the effort. This is GAS and I have the disorder myself. But, for the stated purpose, you do very well with your current rig.

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The m10 is a great camera if you can get a deal. Here it is with the kit lens, hand held and only the light from a television.

And here with the 22f2. Low light, I have better pics to show but this was on my tablet and easy to post.

Just playing when I first got it. This is an air soft target with 6mm plastic pellets stuck to it. The leafs are stuck to it from being knocked out of a tree. Kit lens,, looks like focus was around the red pellet.

Kit lens again.

And the only none portrait photo I have with the 22f2. All hand held so you should get very sharp photos with a tripod.

Check out the G1X Mark II. Flip LCD so no viewfinder, very nice lens, and $549 refurbished from Canon with a one year warranty.

Someone on the Powershot forum will help with the samples.

Just another option to consider.

Larger sensor and a pretty sweet lens. Photosites (pixels) same size as the 18 MP in the Rebels so I think it's the same sensor but cropped to facilitate the lens.

The G-3-5-7-9 use a 20 MP Sony chip that's smaller and exhibits more noise. In good light not a problem.

I just thought you might be overlooking a camera that might be your best option.

In any case check Canon refurbished. They have some good deals.

Forgot to mention, I looked at your work. Very impressive. Hope you find the right camera.

M10 is entry level in the sense that 1300D is entry level, both can be used in full manual.

Downside to M10 is the lack of flash hot-shoe.

Laqup wrote:

First of all: The G7x Mark II should be able to produce better pictures than the G9. Did you stop down the lense a bit or did you always shoot wide open? Did you use proper ISO settings (not too high due to the "small" sensor)? For your macro work you have to stop down to at least to 8.0 if you want lots of stuff in focus. This will lead to higher shutter speeds so you have to be carefull that the camera is stable.

The M10 is a nice "entry level" camera, but I'm not too sure if you would like to use it solely with prime lenses and if it would fit your style of photography. The sensor of the M10 is even bigger than that of the G7x, thus it's quite hard to get "macro shots" without blur. The question is: At which focal length do you shoot mainly? Do you use the zoom functionality of your current camera a lot? You should compare the focal length of your current photos with the focal length of e.g. the 22mm or the 28mm (don't forget to factor in the crop factor for the sensor, for Canon APS-C it's 1.6, for the G9 it's 4.558). The 28mm macro would've helped in some of your shots as some of the close-ups are not properly focused (or made with digital focus, I can't tell).

Other than that: Nice shots! You did a great job with the G9.

Regarding the mentioned lenses:

The 28mm is a "lifestyle" / "all around" lense as well, not only a super macro lense, you don't have to use the "macro mode". The ring light can help to get some additional illumination if you are really close to the subject. Moreover it is stabilized. But the minimum aperture is quite high (3.5), which will lead to higher shutter speeds. For your doll pictures the aperture is a none-issue as you would have to stop down the lense anyway.

The 22mm is a really sharp and versatile lense as well. It is well suited for "whole body portraits". But this is for human sized objects, for your dolls you don't specifically need this "wide angle" field of view. A 50mm lense (like the 1.8 STM) or the 40mm 2.8 might work good as well but they require an adapter and are not as small as native lenses. The "tele" lenses have a more pleasant look for portraits, as they don't have as much perspective distortion as wide angle lenses. And don't forget that the 22mm is not optically stabilized. On the other hand wide angle lenses have a larger depth of field which might suite your shooting style.

In theory the G7x MII should be a good match for you. Maybe you did have a faulty copy or used the wrong settings?