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How solid is the build quality?

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basis unus
basis unus New Member • Posts: 2
How solid is the build quality?

I'm currently using a 1DX and would like to have a lighter APS body for telephoto lenses. I feel hesitant about the M6 because it is said to have a polycarbonate body. I'm wondering if I could use it confidently with an EF 300mm F/2.8 lens (plus adapter). I understand that I should always support the lens with such a setup. But I think one accustomed to bigger cameras may still accidentally raise the combination by only holding the camera, since the 300mm is very handholdable. Any comments and suggestions from users of other EOSM cameras are also welcomed. Thanks!

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beagle1 Forum Pro • Posts: 11,740
Re: How solid is the build quality?

basis unus wrote:

I'm currently using a 1DX and would like to have a lighter APS body for telephoto lenses. I feel hesitant about the M6 because it is said to have a polycarbonate body. I'm wondering if I could use it confidently with an EF 300mm F/2.8 lens (plus adapter). I understand that I should always support the lens with such a setup. But I think one accustomed to bigger cameras may still accidentally raise the combination by only holding the camera, since the 300mm is very handholdable. Any comments and suggestions from users of other EOSM cameras are also welcomed. Thanks!

the build quality is "solid", I've never accidentally picked up the 100-400 on the M or M5 without holding the lens.  everything feels tight and nothing should fall apart

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VisionLight
VisionLight Veteran Member • Posts: 6,227
Re: How solid is the build quality?

Welcome to the DPR forums.

Although it is not the 5 lb weight of your 300mm f/2.8, I am getting very comfortable handholding my 100-400mm L on my M5 (see this thread ). I do have to say that using the EVF and a 3 point stable stance (2 elbows on chest, camera to eye) does help a lot in this regard, something you would not have with the M6. The one ergonomic "complaint" I do have with the small camera and heavy lens is the base of the thumb on my shooting hand, which wraps slightly around the side of the camera, tends to hit the MENU button while shooting. I do have to consciously keep my lens supporting hand in control of the balance on the lens to avoid this. Though I do suppose I will be able to avoid this in the future with practice.

I have no complaints about the build quality of the M5.

The only other thing that people who see you shooting with this combo may notice is that the tiny M camera looks like little more than an oversized rear lens cap on the big lens.

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Mr Grinch Contributing Member • Posts: 646
Re: How solid is the build quality?

My M5 sporting the 18-150mm was swept off of a table onto a brick floor. No issues. The plastic hood thread was dented on the lens. Camera fell on its hot shoe with the plastic insert in situ.

Pretty tough, sort of dispels the plastic mount worries as well.

It is breakable, but pretty tough.

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The adapter is a solid block of metal; VERY tough.

M5 which has the same build as the M6 isn't a slouch. It's taken bumps, some rain, no blows yet. My M3, which had an inferior build took punishment from drops without issue and the M5 which should be identical to the M6 in build, is superior.

Now I don't recommend punishing your gear, but I don't hold back; I treat my computers and cameras like tools, not pamper them, and have no complaints.

I've broken lenses before, the infamous EF 50 f/1.8 II front focus element break, so just to put in perspective I don't baby my stuff, but I don't go being a fool either.

The adapter is 100% tough, anything adapted is "safe". Consider it L "tough".

The M5/M6 is tough, but not L tough.

Dave Seeley Senior Member • Posts: 1,760
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Assuming the M6 will have the same, I'd say the build quality of the M5 is very good, but quite noticeably less heavy duty than the 1dx, which is the gold standard for bq.  It's also noticeably less than the 5D series... The first gen M was so solid and compact that I'd say the build quality was higher than the M5... and the first gen lenses were very impressive in bq, especially when compared to the later M15-45, which seems light and plastic.  I agree w VisionLight that you should consider the built in EVF of the M5 for stability alone, but I have to imagine that w the 300mm you'll be shooting outside, where an evf is a must for broad daylight.

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StevenSHH Contributing Member • Posts: 609
Re: How solid is the build quality?

I would treat M series like regular Rebels, just be careful and wipe water, moisture, sand off right away with cloth and blower. Canon DSLR are well built, but never shot in heavy rain / snow with rebels.

It's possible in rain and snow but nothing heavy, a few drops is fine.

Or it's very expensive repair because water damage is not considered manufacturer defect.

There are also inexpensive cases made from Korea, China that may work with M series. The original half case by Canon is okay, not great but improves the grip by a little...

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Polycarbonate M6
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basis unus wrote:

I'm currently using a 1DX and would like to have a lighter APS body for telephoto lenses. I feel hesitant about the M6 because it is said to have a polycarbonate body. I'm wondering if I could use it confidently with an EF 300mm F/2.8 lens (plus adapter). I understand that I should always support the lens with such a setup. But I think one accustomed to bigger cameras may still accidentally raise the combination by only holding the camera, since the 300mm is very handholdable. Any comments and suggestions from users of other EOSM cameras are also welcomed. Thanks!

I've handled the EOS-M5 and it felt very solid.  It certainly felt nice in the hand.  I am purchasing an EOS-M6 as soon as they become available next week.  
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I like Polycarbonate construction.  I hope you're right about the M6 having a polycarbonate body although the top and bottom appear to be anodized metal. Polycarbonate is literally bulletproof (to a 12 gauge shotgun blast at 20 feet)... which is why some types of body armor use it... especially protective glasses.  When dropped, it flexes slightly instead of breaking or denting. And it is less prone to the effects of High and Low temperatures.  There's also less thermal contraction/expansion and screws tend not to unthread with vibration. Another benefit is that the 'plastic' doesn't show paint-loss and scratches like metal does.  The original EOS-M has an alloy frame beneath the outer shell and this is what anchors the Lens Mount.  The new M5/M6 will probably have a similar construction.  The highly regarded EOS 6D Full-Frame DSLR is made of Polycarbonate components over an allow interior frame... and this is very similar.  
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You'll have no trouble using it with any large EF lens, especially with the new DPAF sensor on the M5/M6. I used a number of large and heavy lenses on the original EOSM without issue for some years.  You should NEVER use a large lens on even a high-end DSLR without supporting the glass or the lens mount may be affected.  An exception to this rule for me is when the camera is held around my neck by a strap because I will sometimes allow the lens to hang down towards the ground from the camera in this position.  The rule of supporting larger lenses applies to big bodied full-frame cameras too.  The EOS-M is so light by comparison that it balances nicely on a large lens by shifting the center of gravity.  If used on a large lens that is not mounted on a Tripod or Monopod, you will find yourself holding the lens with your left hand and operating the camera controls with your right.
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The new EF 70-300mm II lens is light and affordable.  Or did you mean the much larger white-bodied EF 300mmL lens?

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Sittatunga Veteran Member • Posts: 5,406
Re: How solid is the build quality?

basis unus wrote:

I'm currently using a 1DX and would like to have a lighter APS body for telephoto lenses. I feel hesitant about the M6 because it is said to have a polycarbonate body. I'm wondering if I could use it confidently with an EF 300mm F/2.8 lens (plus adapter). I understand that I should always support the lens with such a setup. But I think one accustomed to bigger cameras may still accidentally raise the combination by only holding the camera, since the 300mm is very handholdable. Any comments and suggestions from users of other EOSM cameras are also welcomed. Thanks!

I regularly use EOS M cameras with a 300mm f/4 or a 100mm f/2, but ever since the days of film I've always held a camera with my left hand under the lens.  My 300mm kens has a broad neckstrap attached to a long Arca-Swiss tripod adapter (for better balance on a tripod head) for added security.  I hold the adapter in my left hand when it's not on a tripod and use the touchscreen release with my right as that chooses my point of focus too.

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