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My X100 resets to factory automatically when the battery is removed and put in back

Started Mar 12, 2017 | Discussions
UGPRO Contributing Member • Posts: 615
My X100 resets to factory automatically when the battery is removed and put in back

Hey, my X100 resets to factory automatically when the battery is removed and put in again. Has been on latest firmware ver 2.11 without any issues, and never had any other issues till now like SAB or freezing etc., Now, for the past 2 weeks the camera resets itself to factory whenever i remove the battery and put it back. I'm loosing all the custom settings too. It starts with asking for setting up from data/time. . . It takes spectacular pictures though, and I'm very happy with the IQ. But its very annoying to set up and select all options at every battery charge/change. . . .Please help

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Re: My X100 resets to factory automatically when the battery is removed and put in back

UGPRO wrote:

Hey, my X100 resets to factory automatically when the battery is removed and put in again. Has been on latest firmware ver 2.11 without any issues, and never had any other issues till now like SAB or freezing etc., Now, for the past 2 weeks the camera resets itself to factory whenever i remove the battery and put it back. I'm loosing all the custom settings too. It starts with asking for setting up from data/time. . . It takes spectacular pictures though, and I'm very happy with the IQ. But its very annoying to set up and select all options at every battery charge/change. . . .Please help

Have you tried to reinstall the current firmware to the same current firmware?

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JdKen Regular Member • Posts: 193
Re: My X100 resets to factory automatically when the battery is removed and put in back

I think there's a kind of mini battery built into electronic devices which is there to store settings - these eventually wear out.

Do the settings go immediately? In other words, if you take a charged battery out and put it back immediately do you lose the settings then? If you don't a second battery placed in the camera while the other is charging is a solution.

Otherwise I expect Fuji could replace the internal battery but it may be quite expensive in labour costs, though not parts costs (probably).

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OP UGPRO Contributing Member • Posts: 615
Re: My X100 resets to factory automatically when the battery is removed and put in back

I just tried removing and inserting the battery after few minutes, it doesn't lose settings. However i observed that if i park the camera without battery in it for few days, then it resets itself. Another peculiar behaviour is, once it resets itself i can't immediately switch to EVF using the switch lever. It has to be switched to macro mode and then i'll be able to switch to EVF either in macro mode or normal mode there after. Not sure whats wrong with it!!!

As FoxShutter suggested, let me trying reinstalling the latest firmware and see. If the issue still persists even after that, then i'll just live with it as i do not want to spend on replacing internal batteries or fixing it with Fuji service.

Will post the update in a couple of days after reinstalling and parking the camera for a day or two without battery in it.

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BurpeesAreHard Contributing Member • Posts: 880
Re: My X100 resets to factory automatically when the battery is removed and put in back

JdKen wrote:

I think there's a kind of mini battery built into electronic devices which is there to store settings - these eventually wear out.

Typically this is just a capacitor. Capacitors have much longer service lives than batteries, but store much less energy, so they discharge in a short time. The capacitor gets its recharge from the removable battery.

OP UGPRO Contributing Member • Posts: 615
Re: My X100 resets to factory automatically when the battery is removed and put in back

OMG!! i found a relevant thread, that too of 2012 :

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3211603

So, its a known issue and happened with an year old camera too. Let me try reinstalling and parking it for a couple of days or a week and observe.

If its related to internal battery, then my Nikon D7000 which is left without a battery in it for more than a year, had all the custom settings in tact when i dusted it off recently to test my friend's new Sigma DX lens. Strange!!

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Joachim Gerstl
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Re: My X100 resets to factory automatically when the battery is removed and put in back
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UGPRO wrote:

OMG!! i found a relevant thread, that too of 2012 :

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3211603

So, its a known issue and happened with an year old camera too. Let me try reinstalling and parking it for a couple of days or a week and observe.

If its related to internal battery, then my Nikon D7000 which is left without a battery in it for more than a year, had all the custom settings in tact when i dusted it off recently to test my friend's new Sigma DX lens. Strange!!

It's not an issue it is the technology used. As already pointed out: there is a capacitor that holds the settings not a battery. The capacitor will be charged by the battery that you (for whatever reason) removed. Now the capacitor can't recharge and consequently the settings get lost. Solution: Just leave the battery in the camera. There is no reason to remove it.

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OP UGPRO Contributing Member • Posts: 615
Re: My X100 resets to factory automatically when the battery is removed and put in back

Joachim Gerstl wrote:

UGPRO wrote:

OMG!! i found a relevant thread, that too of 2012 :

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3211603

So, its a known issue and happened with an year old camera too. Let me try reinstalling and parking it for a couple of days or a week and observe.

If its related to internal battery, then my Nikon D7000 which is left without a battery in it for more than a year, had all the custom settings in tact when i dusted it off recently to test my friend's new Sigma DX lens. Strange!!

It's not an issue it is the technology used. As already pointed out: there is a capacitor that holds the settings not a battery. The capacitor will be charged by the battery that you (for whatever reason) removed. Now the capacitor can't recharge and consequently the settings get lost. Solution: Just leave the battery in the camera. There is no reason to remove it.

Makes sense Joachim, Thank you very much for the thought. Probably i was still in that syndrome "batteries leak if left for prolonged period as unused in an equipment/gadget"

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Joachim Gerstl
Joachim Gerstl Veteran Member • Posts: 9,169
Re: My X100 resets to factory automatically when the battery is removed and put in back
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UGPRO wrote:

Joachim Gerstl wrote:

UGPRO wrote:

OMG!! i found a relevant thread, that too of 2012 :

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3211603

So, its a known issue and happened with an year old camera too. Let me try reinstalling and parking it for a couple of days or a week and observe.

If its related to internal battery, then my Nikon D7000 which is left without a battery in it for more than a year, had all the custom settings in tact when i dusted it off recently to test my friend's new Sigma DX lens. Strange!!

It's not an issue it is the technology used. As already pointed out: there is a capacitor that holds the settings not a battery. The capacitor will be charged by the battery that you (for whatever reason) removed. Now the capacitor can't recharge and consequently the settings get lost. Solution: Just leave the battery in the camera. There is no reason to remove it.

Makes sense Joachim, Thank you very much for the thought. Probably i was still in that syndrome "batteries leak if left for prolonged period as unused in an equipment/gadget"

And battery leak still happens but only with normal batteries. You don't have to be afraid regarding battery leaks with those rechargeable camera batteries. They only lose capacity after a long time of storage so you should check before you leave your home.

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Den02 New Member • Posts: 1
Re: My X100 resets to factory automatically when the battery is removed and put in back
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Lol then how is he supposed to charge the camera if he can't take out the battery?

Rob-in-Alberta Contributing Member • Posts: 521
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Den02 wrote:

Lol then how is he supposed to charge the camera if he can't take out the battery?

got to be a mad scientist that’s how. pure voodo

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Den02 wrote:

Lol then how is he supposed to charge the camera if he can't take out the battery?

You just joined to answer to a 2 year old entry. Welcome to the forum!

I guess you don't understand. I was talking about talking out the battery and leave the camera without battery for many days without battery. The buffer capacitor, buffer battery what ever they use will discharge over time and the settings are lost. Not all all devices store the settings in flash memory.

Charge the battery and put it back into the camera. Problem solved. And no I have not tried if my X100F still does the same. I see no reason to remove the battery from my camera when I don't use it.

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a_c_skinner Forum Pro • Posts: 13,047
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I suspect the OP was habitually storing the camera with the battery out so the internal battery was never properly charged.  He many have realised that by now.

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NextShowForSure Contributing Member • Posts: 765
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Den02 wrote:

Lol then how is he supposed to charge the camera if he can't take out the battery?

I thought postings for new members were held for a period so how does this pointless sarcastic lol resurrection of a very stale post get through?

The fact it has managed to get 2 likes is depressing enough in itself.

The OP has actually thanked the person you are attacking here for his help so neither the thread nor the date has been looked at. So solved a problem goes toxic for no reason.

Rob-in-Alberta Contributing Member • Posts: 521
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NextShowForSure wrote:

Den02 wrote:

Lol then how is he supposed to charge the camera if he can't take out the battery?

I thought postings for new members were held for a period so how does this pointless sarcastic lol resurrection of a very stale post get through?

The fact it has managed to get 2 likes is depressing enough in itself.

The OP has actually thanked the person you are attacking here for his help so neither the thread nor the date has been looked at. So solved a problem goes toxic for no reason.

i think it was meant to be a joke...

NextShowForSure Contributing Member • Posts: 765
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Rob-in-Alberta wrote:

NextShowForSure wrote:

Den02 wrote:

Lol then how is he supposed to charge the camera if he can't take out the battery?

I thought postings for new members were held for a period so how does this pointless sarcastic lol resurrection of a very stale post get through?

The fact it has managed to get 2 likes is depressing enough in itself.

The OP has actually thanked the person you are attacking here for his help so neither the thread nor the date has been looked at. So solved a problem goes toxic for no reason.

i think it was meant to be a joke...

Possibly, buts that's why we have emoticons to help us realise that but over 2 years is taking a long time to think up that devastatingly pithy riposte.  

I suppose it shows a good plus point for in camera USB charging.

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NextShowForSure wrote:

Den02 wrote:

Lol then how is he supposed to charge the camera if he can't take out the battery?

I thought postings for new members were held for a period so how does this pointless sarcastic lol resurrection of a very stale post get through?

The fact it has managed to get 2 likes is depressing enough in itself.

The OP has actually thanked the person you are attacking here for his help so neither the thread nor the date has been looked at. So solved a problem goes toxic for no reason.

Let's not overreact, shall we?  Toxic feels just a bit overstated IMHO.  Let's move on.

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NextShowForSure Contributing Member • Posts: 765
Re: My X100 resets to factory automatically when the battery is removed and put in back

Jerry-astro wrote:

NextShowForSure wrote:

Den02 wrote:

Lol then how is he supposed to charge the camera if he can't take out the battery?

I thought postings for new members were held for a period so how does this pointless sarcastic lol resurrection of a very stale post get through?

The fact it has managed to get 2 likes is depressing enough in itself.

The OP has actually thanked the person you are attacking here for his help so neither the thread nor the date has been looked at. So solved a problem goes toxic for no reason.

Let's not overreact, shall we? Toxic feels just a bit overstated IMHO. Let's move on.

Agreed. Apologies to all.

Pentaxite Forum Member • Posts: 53
Re: My X100 resets to factory automatically when the battery is removed and put in back

Sorry for posting this now. I'm having the same problem with the settings getting deleted each time I remove the battery. I charge the battery using the external  charger.

Is there a solution or remedy to the problem of the settings getting deleted?

Thank you

JdKen Regular Member • Posts: 193
Re: My X100 resets to factory automatically when the battery is removed and put in back

Aside from getting it fixed (replacing the internal “battery” by Fuji - if they even can / will - then having a second battery to put in immediately while the removed one is charging is probably the only option I can think of.

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