more than good enough

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BYRON MCD 77-81
BYRON MCD 77-81 Regular Member • Posts: 276
more than good enough
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But not as sharp as the 4/3 version which I use on the E30 and E620.  Still, it's performance by far outweighs its price - I picked it up second hand for 100 euros in mint condition. Both lenses can give outstanding results under the right conditions and in the right hands. Although they both have a cheap feel about them, I can't really justify criticizing them because they really can deliver and for me, it's the result that counts, and the results can really be very good. If I were rating the older lens, however, I would rate it a bit higher optically.

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Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 40-150mm F4-5.6 R
Telephoto zoom lens • Micro Four Thirds • V315030SU000
Announced: Jun 30, 2011
BYRON MCD 77-81's score
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Olympus E-620 (EVOLT E-620) Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 40-150mm F4-5.6 R
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ahaslett
ahaslett Veteran Member • Posts: 6,846
Re: more than good enough

BYRON MCD 77-81 wrote:

But not as sharp as the 4/3 version which I use on the E30 and E620. Still, it's performance by far outweighs its price - I picked it up second hand for 100 euros in mint condition. Both lenses can give outstanding results under the right conditions and in the right hands. Although they both have a cheap feel about them, I can't really justify criticizing them because they really can deliver and for me, it's the result that counts, and the results can really be very good. If I were rating the older lens, however, I would rate it a bit higher optically.

Which of the two Zuiko 40-150's are you comparing to?

Andrew

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BYRON MCD 77-81
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Re: more than good enough
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The 40 -150mm, the version sold with the 14-42mm as kit lenses with a number of older 4/3rds models, like the e420 / e520 etc. This particular version performs more than admirably with the E3/E30/E5 particularly in the 40 - 100mm range. It is very sharp and is also very nice on the EM1 with MMF3 adapter, although, in this case, due to adapter shortcomings, the corners may show a degradation in sharpness. However, I still prefer it to the M.Zuiko 40 - 150mm f4 -f5.6 R. As I mentioned before, the older 4/3 version, at least in my case, appears to be sharper and produces more acceptable quality images overall. This has been my experience, at least. Check out some of my favourite images taken with this lens and judge for yourself.

Best wishes

Byron.

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zuikowesty
zuikowesty Veteran Member • Posts: 4,117
Re: more than good enough

BYRON MCD 77-81 wrote:

The 40 -150mm, the version sold with the 14-42mm as kit lenses with a number of older 4/3rds models, like the e420 / e520 etc. This particular version performs more than admirably with the E3/E30/E5 particularly in the 40 - 100mm range. It is very sharp and is also very nice on the EM1 with MMF3 adapter, although, in this case, due to adapter shortcomings, the corners may show a degradation in sharpness. However, I still prefer it to the M.Zuiko 40 - 150mm f4 -f5.6 R. As I mentioned before, the older 4/3 version, at least in my case, appears to be sharper and produces more acceptable quality images overall. This has been my experience, at least. Check out some of my favourite images taken with this lens and judge for yourself.

Best wishes

Byron.

Some really nice images there!

I had the 40-150 which came with my E-410 dual lens kit, and quite liked it also. I just sold it today on eBay, as I wasn't using it. I did a fairly careful comparison with the 40-150R on my E-M5 when I got it, and found the R version to be slightly better overall, but didn't consider that the adapter might play a role.

Here are a few from my old 40-150 on the E-410:

And a few from the 40-150R on my E-M5. I don't have any other than test shots with the old lens on the E-M5.

Very flat light.

Missed the DOF here... not quite enough, or perhaps too much.

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ahaslett
ahaslett Veteran Member • Posts: 6,846
Re: more than good enough

My compliments on the images - very moody.

Sorry, should have looked at your gear list. You have the later 40-150. Mine is the earlier one. Rather slow focus even on the EM1 but still light and sharp. I loved that lens on my E500 until the 50-200SWD outperformed it on the E30.

Andrew

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Loga Senior Member • Posts: 1,880
Re: more than good enough
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zuikowesty wrote:

BYRON MCD 77-81 wrote:

The 40 -150mm, the version sold with the 14-42mm as kit lenses with a number of older 4/3rds models, like the e420 / e520 etc. This particular version performs more than admirably with the E3/E30/E5 particularly in the 40 - 100mm range. It is very sharp and is also very nice on the EM1 with MMF3 adapter, although, in this case, due to adapter shortcomings, the corners may show a degradation in sharpness. However, I still prefer it to the M.Zuiko 40 - 150mm f4 -f5.6 R. As I mentioned before, the older 4/3 version, at least in my case, appears to be sharper and produces more acceptable quality images overall. This has been my experience, at least. Check out some of my favourite images taken with this lens and judge for yourself.

Best wishes

Byron.

Some really nice images there!

I had the 40-150 which came with my E-410 dual lens kit, and quite liked it also. I just sold it today on eBay, as I wasn't using it. I did a fairly careful comparison with the 40-150R on my E-M5 when I got it, and found the R version to be slightly better overall, but didn't consider that the adapter might play a role.

Here are a few from my old 40-150 on the E-410:

And a few from the 40-150R on my E-M5. I don't have any other than test shots with the old lens on the E-M5.

Very flat light.

Missed the DOF here... not quite enough, or perhaps too much.

I'm dying from these colors and tones again! They are so good. I can differentiate these pics from E-M5 ones at once...

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BYRON MCD 77-81
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Re: more than good enough

Thanks for your take on the subject.

I suppose that at the end of the day, we all have our preferences according to our photographic style. For B/W, for example, the old 4/3rds version has always worked out better for me. It may also be that there are subtle differences between different batches of the same lenses.

Best wishes

Byron.

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BYRON MCD 77-81
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Re: more than good enough

ahaslett wrote:

My compliments on the images - very moody.

Sorry, should have looked at your gear list. You have the later 40-150. Mine is the earlier one. Rather slow focus even on the EM1 but still light and sharp. I loved that lens on my E500 until the 50-200SWD outperformed it on the E30.

Andrew

For sure the 50 - 200 outperforms the cheap 40 -150 lenses. There are so many great lenses out there, most of them big and heavy. I think the point here, is not how much better lenses that cost many times the price are - that's pretty clear to everyone, but the point  that this particular cheapo, very plastic product can actually produce exceedingly good images in the right hands.

Best wishes

Byron.

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ahaslett
ahaslett Veteran Member • Posts: 6,846
Re: more than good enough

BYRON MCD 77-81 wrote:

ahaslett wrote:

My compliments on the images - very moody.

Sorry, should have looked at your gear list. You have the later 40-150. Mine is the earlier one. Rather slow focus even on the EM1 but still light and sharp. I loved that lens on my E500 until the 50-200SWD outperformed it on the E30.

Andrew

For sure the 50 - 200 outperforms the cheap 40 -150 lenses. There are so many great lenses out there, most of them big and heavy. I think the point here, is not how much better lenses that cost many times the price are - that's pretty clear to everyone, but the point that this particular cheapo, very plastic product can actually produce exceedingly good images in the right hands.

Best wishes

Byron.

I can recommend the Panny 20mm f/1.7 and the Samyang 7.5mm fisheye.

Andrew

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WayneG604 New Member • Posts: 23
Re: more than good enough

Wow, really great photos! Just goes to show that photography isn't just about having the "top of the line/ latest and greatest" equipment (or spending half your life waffling on about it and never actually taking or sharing any photos;) you need the vision as well. I've had all four versions of the kit 40-150mm and the R was my favorite for color and sharpness but that's just mho. Thanks for sharing!

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BYRON MCD 77-81
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Yes, I've only heard good things about the 20mm f1.7.  I have considered getting one myself.

Best wishes

Byron.

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ahaslett
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Re: more than good enough

BYRON MCD 77-81 wrote:

Yes, I've only heard good things about the 20mm f1.7. I have considered getting one myself.

Best wishes

Byron.

And the Samyang?

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BYRON MCD 77-81
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Yes, you just made a major point, and it's my point, too - you can do great work  with less than premium gear. At least, that's what I try to do within reason. If I can get results with cheaper gear, I use it, and it has worked for me time and time again.

Best wishes

Byron.

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zuikowesty
zuikowesty Veteran Member • Posts: 4,117
Re: more than good enough

Loga wrote:

zuikowesty wrote:

I'm dying from these colors and tones again! They are so good. I can differentiate these pics from E-M5 ones at once...

Stop! Please don't make me regret selling my E-410... I just dropped it off at the post office

Surely there is a way to get this look from the newer sensors? IIRC, the E-410 was a Panasonic sensor, but the earlier ones like the E-500 and E-1 were Kodak.

I rarely compare photos taken with different cameras of mine, so it's not apparent to me until someone points it out. For the past 3 years, I've been using the E-M5/E-PM2 which use the same Sony sensor, so I've become accustomed to this look I guess.

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BYRON MCD 77-81
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Re: more than good enough

zuikowesty wrote:

Loga wrote:

zuikowesty wrote:

I'm dying from these colors and tones again! They are so good. I can differentiate these pics from E-M5 ones at once...

Stop! Please don't make me regret selling my E-410... I just dropped it off at the post office

Surely there is a way to get this look from the newer sensors? IIRC, the E-410 was a Panasonic sensor, but the earlier ones like the E-500 and E-1 were Kodak.

I rarely compare photos taken with different cameras of mine, so it's not apparent to me until someone points it out. For the past 3 years, I've been using the E-M5/E-PM2 which use the same Sony sensor, so I've become accustomed to this look I guess.

I wouldn't worry about the 410 - the sensor on the EM5 is way better.

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