DPReview.com is closing April 10th - Find out more

Three Lens Prime Travel Set, does this work?

Started Feb 27, 2017 | Questions
FirewaterSun New Member • Posts: 15
Three Lens Prime Travel Set, does this work?

I have the 12, 17, 25 and 45 Olympus primes - I'm trying to pare down lenses to reach a three lens set for travel.

I love the 25 and 45 for street shooting and portraits, but the 17 and 12 don't gel with me. The 17 seems not wide enough to capture environments, especially in tighter areas, and is kinda a half-hearted 25 - if I only had one lens, this would probably be it, but with the 25 I feel it's not really useful as it's so close.

The 12 I find super wide and can only really see a few possible uses for it. Additionally, I also own the 12-32, so if I REALLY need 12 I can also use that.

Do you think it would be quite silly to replace the 12 and 17 with a Panasonic 15 f1.7? I feel like the extra 2mm width (which is not insignificant) brings a lens that can be used as a wider photojourno-esque lens, while not being as difficult to compose with as the 12.

I have decided I'm definitely looking for either a Panasonic/Olympus prime, and ideally f2 or brighter.

TL:DR; is a 15, 25, 45 prime set feasible for travel, or am I missing out on a wider-angle lens?

ANSWER:
This question has not been answered yet.
Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 12mm 1:2 Panasonic Lumix G 42.5mm F1.7
If you believe there are incorrect tags, please send us this post using our feedback form.
MOD Tom Caldwell Forum Pro • Posts: 46,360
Re: Three Lens Prime Travel Set, does this work?
1

You seem to be a wide-angle man.  I would go bonkers with so many lenses at the wide end.  Try the Olympus 75mm f1.8 for some more reach and scrap one of the wides.

The 75/1.8 is a quite compact lens suitable for travel with more reach for those details.

Or of course you could just go for a zoom that covers the wide end of the spectrum.

There is always Panorama mode if wides are not wide enough.

-- hide signature --

Tom Caldwell

addlightness Veteran Member • Posts: 3,641
Re: Three Lens Prime Travel Set, does this work?

Absolutely!  Those are with me whenever I'm traveling or out for street and environmental photography.

I bought my 15/1.7 over the 12/2.0 and 17/1.8 for the same reasons.  12 is too wide and 17 is close to 25.  15 sits right between them.

IMO, its IQ is the best in my collection of primes - 7.5/3.5, 14/2.5, 15/1.7, 25, 45, Sigma60/2.8 and 75/1.8

Go get one

 addlightness's gear list:addlightness's gear list
Panasonic Lumix DMC-GM1 Olympus E-M5 II Olympus PEN-F Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX85 Olympus E-M5 III +14 more
SpinOne Veteran Member • Posts: 4,059
Re: Three Lens Prime Travel Set, does this work?
3

FirewaterSun wrote:

TL:DR; is a 15, 25, 45 prime set feasible for travel, or am I missing out on a wider-angle lens?

You could use just the 25mm if you wanted.

Anyway, seems to me like 12-32, 25mm, 45mm is the best option here.

The difference between 15mm and 17mm is pretty small. 65º vs 72º.... not huge.

The 12mm prime is a better lens, but if you're not going to use it often, and you find it too wide, then you might as well use the zoom.

OP FirewaterSun New Member • Posts: 15
Re: Three Lens Prime Travel Set, does this work?

You are right! I definitely prefer the slightly wide to slightly tele range - the 75mm f1.8 is definitely on the buy list! Part of the reason I want to get rid of one of the lenses is to allow room/weight for it in the camera bag. I have to confess I'm a little worried about it's length and size, and finding uses for the focal length!

For now it's a little out of reach, but it's definitely the next one I'm saving up for

OP FirewaterSun New Member • Posts: 15
Re: Three Lens Prime Travel Set, does this work?

Awesome, thank you! I'm really glad I'm not the only one who thought of this (It'd mean it was probably a dumb idea...) Are you OK with interiors and stuff like that with the 15? That would be my only worry really, although tests with the 12-32 set to 15 seem alright so far....

OP FirewaterSun New Member • Posts: 15
Re: Three Lens Prime Travel Set, does this work?

I definitely respect the 12mm and it's capability, I just don't really see it working with the way I tend to shoot, unfortunately - it'd be used way too rarely to justify the cost and space in the bag.

I'm trying to avoid zooms as much as possible - I'd only use the 12-32 at 12mm with IBIS for interiors or some such. The prime optical quality coupled with tiny size on m43 is just way too nice to pass up...

I've been doing tests with the 15 vs 17 focal length on the 12-32 and I really do think it's a big jump at least to my eyes - especially from 25mm, which would be the next prime I would use! 12 vs 15 is not that much more IMO

Paulmorgan Veteran Member • Posts: 9,499
Re: Three Lens Prime Travel Set, does this work?
1

FirewaterSun wrote:

I have the 12, 17, 25 and 45 Olympus primes - I'm trying to pare down lenses to reach a three lens set for travel.

I love the 25 and 45 for street shooting and portraits, but the 17 and 12 don't gel with me. The 17 seems not wide enough to capture environments, especially in tighter areas, and is kinda a half-hearted 25 - if I only had one lens, this would probably be it, but with the 25 I feel it's not really useful as it's so close.

The 12 I find super wide and can only really see a few possible uses for it. Additionally, I also own the 12-32, so if I REALLY need 12 I can also use that.

Do you think it would be quite silly to replace the 12 and 17 with a Panasonic 15 f1.7? I feel like the extra 2mm width (which is not insignificant) brings a lens that can be used as a wider photojourno-esque lens, while not being as difficult to compose with as the 12.

I have decided I'm definitely looking for either a Panasonic/Olympus prime, and ideally f2 or brighter.

TL:DR; is a 15, 25, 45 prime set feasible for travel, or am I missing out on a wider-angle lens?

From my experience your not really gaining anything with fast lenses for street, back in the film days yes (a brighter viewfinder but stopping down to shoot) but for street most of us want and need dof, not shallow dof.

Thinking about the 15mm, save a whole heap and get the 14mm.

Thinking of the 75mm, save a whole heap and get the 60mm.

Looks to me like you have a bad case of gas, all those lenses and still not happy.

jor23 Senior Member • Posts: 1,556
Re: Three Lens Prime Travel Set, does this work?

Why not just use 17, 25, 45? Keep 12-32.

The difference between 17 and 25 is definitely larger than that between 17 and 15 ...

Stejo
Stejo Senior Member • Posts: 1,461
Re: Three Lens Prime Travel Set, does this work?

12 and 17 are very important focal lengths for those who love them. For everybody else 15 is a good compromise to trim down the kit. You seem to fall in that category.

 Stejo's gear list:Stejo's gear list
Panasonic Lumix DMC-G7 Panasonic GH5 Samyang 85mm F1.4 Aspherical IF Samyang 7.5mm F3.5 Fisheye Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 DC HSM Art +7 more
lahsrah Contributing Member • Posts: 603
Re: Three Lens Prime Travel Set, does this work?

I think it will work but when traveling you might struggling changing lenses. Since you might see something you want to capture and have the wrong lens on.

I travel with a 3 lens kit also:

  • Olympus 9mm F8
  • Panasonic 12-32mm F3.5-5.6
  • Panasonic 25mm F1.7

One of them being a fisheye does constraint me in what I can do but I love using it for city scapes as there is nothing that wont fit in the frame with that wide angle view.

I also struggle a lot with lens changes mainly between the 9mm and the 12-32mm. (I dropped my camera and broke the screen while on street ).

The 25mm is only there as an insurance policy for when the light gets low and I hardly use it. With my E-M10 II's stabilization the 12-32mm's speed is not an issue for most shots that I take.

It all depends on what kind of photos you take.  Most of mine are at 9mm FE and 12mm on the zoom when I am traveling.   15mm wont be wide enough for me for sure.

-- hide signature --
Robotribe Junior Member • Posts: 38
Re: Three Lens Prime Travel Set, does this work?

I have all four primes you do plus one zoom (Oly 12-40/2.8). I agree with others that the difference between 17mm and 15mm seems negligible. The Oly 12 and 17 are/were my most-used lenses in my kit, the 25 after that, and the 45 on rare portrait shooting occasions. I'm actually pondering selling the 45, going longer and buying the Sigma 60, and going even wider and am waiting for more info on the Laowa 7.5mm/2.

-- hide signature --

'I'm normally not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me, Superman.' - H. Simpson

 Robotribe's gear list:Robotribe's gear list
Olympus E-M5 II Olympus E-M1 II Olympus M.Zuiko Digital 45mm F1.8 Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 12mm 1:2 Olympus M.Zuiko Digital 17mm F1.8 +3 more
addlightness Veteran Member • Posts: 3,641
Re: Three Lens Prime Travel Set, does this work?

FirewaterSun wrote:

Awesome, thank you! I'm really glad I'm not the only one who thought of this (It'd mean it was probably a dumb idea...) Are you OK with interiors and stuff like that with the 15? That would be my only worry really, although tests with the 12-32 set to 15 seem alright so far....

For interiors, if 15 is not wide enough, I'd take my 9-18mm(or 12-32 or 7.5FE) if subjects are stationary and camera body has IBIS(which is the case in my PEN-F and GX85).

For moving subjects(e.g. indoors basketball), a 15/1.7 or even a 25/1.8 is usually wide(and fast) enough.

 addlightness's gear list:addlightness's gear list
Panasonic Lumix DMC-GM1 Olympus E-M5 II Olympus PEN-F Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX85 Olympus E-M5 III +14 more
OP FirewaterSun New Member • Posts: 15
Re: Three Lens Prime Travel Set, does this work?

....

So I'm not quite sure how replacing 2 lenses with a lens that is cheaper than 1 of them = GAS. I got the 12mm on a great deal and will earn money on the resale.

14mm at f2.5 & 60mm f2.8 I wouldn't really say is better than 1.7/1.8 at night. Especially for street. On top of which 45mm to 60mm is a bit of a waste of buying a lens for the few extra steps forwards.

Additionally this is an all round travel set as well, and I do like a bit of bokeh sometimes

but thank you for your 2 cents. happy shooting!

OP FirewaterSun New Member • Posts: 15
Re: Three Lens Prime Travel Set, does this work?

Fantastic, thank you, that helps alot!

OP FirewaterSun New Member • Posts: 15
Re: Three Lens Prime Travel Set, does this work?
1

Definitely going to pick up the Laowa if it's not crazy expensive - my issue with the 17 and 12 is they kinda feel not extreme enough, either too wide/long for every shot I'm trying to do (and yes, I do zoom with my feet, I'm just limited in some streets )

with a 7.5mm for ultrawide, 15mm for moderate wide and 25 for normal 45 for short tele (although maybe I will seap that for a 60/75) that gives me a 1.8ish multiplier between lenses, which does seem, I dunno...kinda neat?

Dreeke Senior Member • Posts: 1,080
Re: Three Lens Prime Travel Set, does this work?

addlightness wrote:

For moving subjects(e.g. indoors basketball), a 15/1.7 or even a 25/1.8 is usually wide(and fast) enough.

You must be close to the field. The 75mm f/1.8 is my most used lens for indoors basketball and the 45mm f/1.8 if I need (or want) a wider fov, and that covers almost half of the field.

My carry-around set of primes: 12mm f/2.0 (least used, but I will keep it for use in my underwaterhousing), 17mm f/1.8 (or 20mm f/1.7 - I really should sell one those), 45mm f/1.8 and 75mm f/1.8

 Dreeke's gear list:Dreeke's gear list
Olympus PEN E-PL5 Olympus E-M1 Panasonic Lumix G 20mm F1.7 ASPH Olympus M.Zuiko Digital 45mm F1.8 Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 12mm 1:2 +15 more
Paulmorgan Veteran Member • Posts: 9,499
Re: Three Lens Prime Travel Set, does this work?

FirewaterSun wrote:

....

So I'm not quite sure how replacing 2 lenses with a lens that is cheaper than 1 of them = GAS. I got the 12mm on a great deal and will earn money on the resale.

Because you already have a bunch of lenses your not happy with.

Gassy people do this.

14mm at f2.5 & 60mm f2.8 I wouldn't really say is better than 1.7/1.8 at night. Especially for street.

If you shooting at f4 to f5.6 at night why would a faster lens be better, remember you still need dof ?

On top of which 45mm to 60mm is a bit of a waste of buying a lens for the few extra steps forwards.

Additionally this is an all round travel set as well, and I do like a bit of bokeh sometimes

but thank you for your 2 cents. happy shooting!

addlightness Veteran Member • Posts: 3,641
Re: Three Lens Prime Travel Set, does this work?

Dreeke wrote:

addlightness wrote:

For moving subjects(e.g. indoors basketball), a 15/1.7 or even a 25/1.8 is usually wide(and fast) enough.

You must be close to the field. The 75mm f/1.8 is my most used lens for indoors basketball and the 45mm f/1.8 if I need (or want) a wider fov, and that covers almost half of the field.

My carry-around set of primes: 12mm f/2.0 (least used, but I will keep it for use in my underwaterhousing), 17mm f/1.8 (or 20mm f/1.7 - I really should sell one those), 45mm f/1.8 and 75mm f/1.8

I should add these were high school basketball games.  For professional/NBA games, yes, I'd carry with me my 45/1.8 +  Sigma 60/2.8 + 75/1.8 depending on how much I want to spend on the tickets

But more to the OP about whether the 15/1.7 is 'wide enough' indoors, it is for me.

 addlightness's gear list:addlightness's gear list
Panasonic Lumix DMC-GM1 Olympus E-M5 II Olympus PEN-F Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX85 Olympus E-M5 III +14 more
OP FirewaterSun New Member • Posts: 15
Re: Three Lens Prime Travel Set, does this work?

Paulmorgan wrote:

FirewaterSun wrote:

....

So I'm not quite sure how replacing 2 lenses with a lens that is cheaper than 1 of them = GAS. I got the 12mm on a great deal and will earn money on the resale.

Because you already have a bunch of lenses your not happy with.

Gassy people do this.

14mm at f2.5 & 60mm f2.8 I wouldn't really say is better than 1.7/1.8 at night. Especially for street.

If you shooting at f4 to f5.6 at night why would a faster lens be better, remember you still need dof ?

On top of which 45mm to 60mm is a bit of a waste of buying a lens for the few extra steps forwards.

Additionally this is an all round travel set as well, and I do like a bit of bokeh sometimes

but thank you for your 2 cents. happy shooting!

Like I said. Got em at a deal. Don't like em. Love the other two lenses and won't change em for anything. I guess if that means GAS in your book instead of grinning and bearing it, sure.

Shooting at f4 at night? for walking people or snap facial expressions? You must live in really brightly lit areas, or always have the background panned out. In addition to which, it's an m43 sensor. At a 15mm focal length, 1.7 gives enough dof if you get the subject even close to in focus. I go out shooting at night with the 45 wide open and like the results. The high-end primes are amazing at autofocus in low light.

Either way it seems our philosophies are vastly differing, which is fine. You'll forgive me if I say that I probably wouldn't shoot the same way and therefore wouldn't buy the same lenses - no offence intended!

Keyboard shortcuts:
FForum MMy threads