T7i or 80D? (both with 18-135 nano USM lens)

Hey Guys,
This is my first post, so apologize if this has already been asked (I couldn't find this question).
A bit about me: I am in the market for a new camera since i handed my T4i to my younger brother. By looking at the available options, i've landed on two which i need help deciding between. I travel with my camera and had been mostly using it for stills but want to venture into videography.
Choices: Need help choosing between T7i or 80D both with 18-135 nano USM lens.
Confusion:

1. T7i body (new) and 80D body (Canon refurb) is roughly the same price and I have no concerns with buying a refurb since it's through canon's website.
2. T7i seems to have all the features that I need from 80D with a lighter body (~24% lighter than 80D). The lighter body should come handy when traveling.
3. I'm assuming 18-135mm nano USM will work well with both bodies.
4. Don't need weather proofing and have never used AF micro adjustments so not sure how much I'd be needing it. 

80D has justified raving reviews thus the confusion and ask for suggestions/recommendations.
Appreciate it!

Welcome!

You can't make this kind of decision by checking specs and reading reviews. You have to use your wisdom, and that comes from experiencing each camera - how it feels in your hands, how it looks through the viewfinders, what emotional response you get when you press the shutter buttons...

So go to a store and handle them both. If you're interested in particular features, read the relevant manuals before you get there and try them out. Then go away and sleep on it. One will feel right compared to the other, that's the right choice.

Having said that, if size and weight isn't a killer and you're serious about photography, you will grow to appreciate the features of a (pre-77D) nnD camera that mean you can get more better photos in challenging situations, such as the bigger brighter viewfinder, deeper buffer, AF MA, direct controls for EC and focus point selection, bigger battery and grip.

P.S. now that someone has answered, you should get a lot more answers. Funny how that works.

Sarz wrote:

Thanks WilbaW for your comment.

I did try comparing 80D with T6i (closest to T7i, since this is yet to hit the markets). When comparing the two side-by-side the weight difference is definitely noticeable. The image quality within the store when replaying the pictures on the screen seemed at par.

Of course. You won't be able to tell them apart on a 24" monitor, let alone a 3" one.

Instead of helping with the decision, in the 30mins that i spent with the cameras the differentiating factors between the two seemed to matter less and less, getting to a point of coin-toss between the two. The camera shop rep also couldn't provide much insight. Thus in dire need of expert opinion (since mine is far from it).

You're the expert on what suits you, and only your opinion matters. You just have to choose between the light weight tool and the superior photographic tool.

A coin toss is a great way to break a deadlock like that, since it bypasses your rational mind, the one that has you stuck. Commit to buying the camera the coin chooses then toss it. If you feel elated/relieved/excited... with what the coin chose that's the one to go for, or if you feel anxious/disappointed/regretful... buy the other one.

Whichever you choose you'll regret what you gave up if you let yourself dwell on it, so forget that and enjoy your photography. You'll have a great time with either, just do it!

A reminder that DPReview recently posted a comparison of the T7i, 77D, and 80D.

They barely mentioned the 80D having autofocus micro-adjust, which for a lot of folks is a big deal.

Doug Pardee wrote:

A reminder that DPReview recently posted a comparison of the T7i, 77D, and 80D.

They barely mentioned the 80D having autofocus micro-adjust, which for a lot of folks is a big deal.

autofocus micro-adjust is a big deal when you need it.  otherwise you have to send lens and camera back to canon.

and let's not forget that the VF on the 80D has bigger magnification.  the 80D also has a top screen, which can be very handy for some.

If in handling you noticed that the weight difference hardly matters, then perhaps you should get the 80D. You said that the refurb price is too close to care about, and that you have no problem with buying a manufacturer refurb (I agree, for whatever that's worth) Since the weight was the only downside if the 80D, and everything else equals or improves on a shooting experience compared to the rebel, for about the same money... do you have any other reservations holding you up?

If someone took a good photo with each the T7i and 80D (or virtually any other modern camera), you would not be able to tell which was which. There may be some advantage with the 80D when it comes to dynamic range, but if you get the shot right in the camera, this doesn't come into play. IQ is going to be largely the same.

Weight is so close you wouldn't notice a difference between the two (I hope). We're talking less than half a pound here. My phone weighs more than that.

Micro-adjust is necessary to have when you need it. You may never need it, but if you do you'll wish you had it.

The viewfinding on the 80D is remarkably better. This is a big deal.

Weather proofing is also great, even if you don't expect to need it. Last time I took my Rebel to the beach I was overly mindfulof the sand and mist, and that changed the way I used it. I thought the entire time that I wish I'd had the weatherproof camera.

The 80Ds low-light AF is excellent. Not sure how this compares to the new Rebel t7i, but compared to the t6i, its a world of difference. I suspect it's about the same with the t7i.

All said, the largest difference between each is the handling. the 80D is noticable better than the Rebel line. It's much faster to control a camera with buttons than it is with touch screen menus and that little screen on the top of the camers makes a huge difference in the field. To me it's a no brainer to get the 80D for the better controls alone.