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Raynox 2020 2.2x tc lens test report.

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Adrian Harris
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Raynox 2020 2.2x tc lens test report.
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Raynox 2020 2.2x tc lens test report.          Link to Adrian's Raynox 2020 Pro review.

At last, I have finally finished my evaluation test report of the Raynox 2020 Pro 2.2x teleconverter when attached to a variety of M43 telephoto lenses:

Panasonic 100-400 + Raynox 2020 TC.

The lenses used for evaluation purposes were:
* Olympus 40-150 F2.8 Pro (and plus the 1.4x tc).
* Olympus 75-300 Mk2.
* Panasonic 100-400.

Olympus 75-300 Mk2 + Raynox 2020 TC.

Cameras used: Panasonic GX7 and GX8.

Many of the results were quite surprising and I have included plenty of example photos showing the pros and cons of each in use and I hope that some of you may find it useful.

Olympus 40-150 Pro + Raynox 2020 TC.

Link to Adrian's Raynox 2020 Pro review.

PS. I hope I have not made to many typos in the report, but I am sure you will kindly point them out

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Interesting, very much appreciated! [nt]
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Re: Raynox 2020 2.2x tc lens test report.

Adrian Harris wrote:

Raynox 2020 2.2x tc lens test report. Link to Adrian's Raynox 2020 Pro review.

At last, I have finally finished my evaluation test report of the Raynox 2020 Pro 2.2x teleconverter when attached to a variety of M43 telephoto lenses:

Panasonic 100-400 + Raynox 2020 TC.

The lenses used for evaluation purposes were:
* Olympus 40-150 F2.8 Pro (and plus the 1.4x tc).
* Olympus 75-300 Mk2.
* Panasonic 100-400.

Olympus 75-300 Mk2 + Raynox 2020 TC.

Cameras used: Panasonic GX7 and GX8.

Many of the results were quite surprising and I have included plenty of example photos showing the pros and cons of each in use and I hope that some of you may find it useful.

Olympus 40-150 Pro + Raynox 2020 TC.

Link to Adrian's Raynox 2020 Pro review.

PS. I hope I have not made to many typos in the report, but I am sure you will kindly point them out

Thank you and a VERY big task you have laid out superbly!

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Hen3ry
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Excellent work, Adrian
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Looks as though there really is a challenger for the Panny 100-400 for reach -- the Oly 75-300 with the Raynox 2020.

Now you have me wondering how the Panny 100-300 would go. Hmmm!

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And there we go, read your review and jumped on Oz eBay
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A used Raynox 2020 was offered for AU$165 buy it now, so I buyed it now!

Unfortunately, I won't be able to get my hands on the (used) lens for a couple of months. it is being mailed to my daughter in Melbourne and I will get it when I visit (from New Guinea) in April. Interesting! Then we will see if it works with the 100-300.

Hope so -- it would be fun having that ridiculous focal length to play with, particularly to help me fail even more miserably photographing the local birds (I can't get them framed before they fly away)!

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Sranang Boi Senior Member • Posts: 2,860
Re: Raynox 2020 2.2x tc lens test report.

I have been looking and trying out several teleconverters myself recently. I hope to post my own findings by the end of the month. I did have a quick look at the 2020 Pro but ended up rejecting it for M43 use.
The two problems with the 2020Pro are that the rear lens diameter is smaller than any of my medium and long range lenses. This caused vignetting over the largest part of the lens zoom range. The other issue is the weight, which puts a strain on the thread of the lens that is used with the 2020Pro.

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tomhongkong Veteran Member • Posts: 4,723
Re: Raynox 2020 2.2x tc lens test report.

Great work and article.  Thanks very much

tom

TwoMetreBill Senior Member • Posts: 1,992
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Tip for the use of auxiliary lenses, wide or tele, on a zoom lens. The tele ones are designed to be used only at the long end and vice versa for the wide converters.

Good rule of thumb, stay within 1.5X. So for the tele on a 75-300, only use it with the lens in the 225-300 range. For the wide, the 75-110 range.

A friend didn't believe me and left his wide converter on all the time and came back with over 90% discards from a vacation.

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Adrian Harris
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Re: And there we go, read your review and jumped on Oz eBay
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Hen3ry wrote:

A used Raynox 2020 was offered for AU$165 buy it now, so I buyed it now!

Unfortunately, I won't be able to get my hands on the (used) lens for a couple of months. it is being mailed to my daughter in Melbourne and I will get it when I visit (from New Guinea) in April. Interesting! Then we will see if it works with the 100-300.

Hope so -- it would be fun having that ridiculous focal length to play with, particularly to help me fail even more miserably photographing the local birds (I can't get them framed before they fly away)!

Yes you are right about framing, I missed an egret in flight today as I had so much zoom that I couldn't find it in the viewfinder!!!

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Re: Raynox 2020 2.2x tc lens test report.

Sranang Boi wrote:

I have been looking and trying out several teleconverters myself recently. I hope to post my own findings by the end of the month. I did have a quick look at the 2020 Pro but ended up rejecting it for M43 use.
The two problems with the 2020Pro are that the rear lens diameter is smaller than any of my medium and long range lenses. This caused vignetting over the largest part of the lens zoom range. The other issue is the weight, which puts a strain on the thread of the lens that is used with the 2020Pro.

Hi Sranang, although the rear lens diameter is small it doesn't suffer noticeable vignetting at longer focal lengths. The front element of the 40-150 f2.8 pro is very large, yet at 150 there really isn't an issue.

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Sranang Boi Senior Member • Posts: 2,860
Re: Raynox 2020 2.2x tc lens test report.

TwoMetreBill wrote:

Tip for the use of auxiliary lenses, wide or tele, on a zoom lens. The tele ones are designed to be used only at the long end and vice versa for the wide converters.

That's generally true when the rear lens diameter of the converter is smaller than the front element of the lens it is fixed to. In order to reduce vignetting the rear element from the converter has to be bigger in size. Another factor that comes into play is the size of the front element of the converter. Unfortunately, a larger size also produces added weight.

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TwoMetreBill Senior Member • Posts: 1,992
Re: Raynox 2020 2.2x tc lens test report.

In my experience, it is always true. I've used some converters with large rear elements including those designed for lenses with small front elements and the result was always the same. While I'm only one person, I've used over a dozen auxiliary lenses over the years including some very expensive ones designed for specific cameras.

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Thanks. Very useful. Might give it a go in the spring

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Hatstand Senior Member • Posts: 1,623
There is at least one exception...

TwoMetreBill wrote:

In my experience, it is always true. I've used some converters with large rear elements including those designed for lenses with small front elements and the result was always the same. While I'm only one person, I've used over a dozen auxiliary lenses over the years including some very expensive ones designed for specific cameras.

Panasonic 45-175mm + 1.7x Nikon TC-E17ED.

From my own experience with this combination, the full zoom range is usable with no issues, and little/no vignetting.

The Nikon is high optical quality, unlike the low quality Raynox... and gives roughly 150-600mm FF equivalent when attached to the 45-175mm.

Adrian Harris
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Re: There is at least one exception...

Hatstand wrote:

TwoMetreBill wrote:

In my experience, it is always true. I've used some converters with large rear elements including those designed for lenses with small front elements and the result was always the same. While I'm only one person, I've used over a dozen auxiliary lenses over the years including some very expensive ones designed for specific cameras.

Panasonic 45-175mm + 1.7x Nikon TC-E17ED.

From my own experience with this combination, the full zoom range is usable with no issues, and little/no vignetting.

The Nikon is high optical quality, unlike the low quality Raynox... and gives roughly 150-600mm FF equivalent when attached to the 45-175mm.

Hi Hatstand, any chance of some examples. The 1.7x Nikon TC-E17ED is one teleconverter that I have not owned or been able to test. 'Back in the days' when TC's were the only way to get more reach, everyone on the Minolta forums said the best of the bunch was the Olympus 1.4x Tcon 14b. But last year when I tried it on a few M43 lenses it performed badly compared to the Raynox - which I admit has many faults, as stated in my article. But I am going to test 4 different TC's against each other in a few weeks for another report to double check them against each other once more.

Anyway, if you could post some example photos where you have used the Nikon TC-E17ED on an M43 lens, it would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

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glassoholic
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I once had a Sony R1 with front mounted converters that were really nice and even had a frame to support them. Huge and crazy expensive but really nice results.

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glassoholic wrote:

I once had a Sony R1 with front mounted converters that were really nice and even had a frame to support them. Huge and crazy expensive but really nice results.

Wow that is some setup.

TC's are not magical, but they are great fun to play with. Now those elements look seriously heavy!!!

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Examples 45-175mm + teleconverter
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Adrian Harris wrote:

Hi Hatstand, any chance of some examples. The 1.7x Nikon TC-E17ED is one teleconverter that I have not owned or been able to test. 'Back in the days' when TC's were the only way to get more reach, everyone on the Minolta forums said the best of the bunch was the Olympus 1.4x Tcon 14b. But last year when I tried it on a few M43 lenses it performed badly compared to the Raynox - which I admit has many faults, as stated in my article. But I am going to test 4 different TC's against each other in a few weeks for another report to double check them against each other once more.

Anyway, if you could post some example photos where you have used the Nikon TC-E17ED on an M43 lens, it would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

Some of my airshow photos using 45-175mm with teleconverter are in the links below.

They're PP'd and reduced for forums... but if you poke about in the UKAR forums where they're posted, around the same dates... you'll find plenty of examples from the exact same airshows, by other posters who will mostly have been using big lens DSLR's. There are many variables, but it might give an idea of how my m43 photos stack up against the big guns.

Shuttleworth "Fly Navy" 2016, 45-175mm + Nikon TC-E17ED

Shuttleworth Military Pageant 2016, 45-175mm + Panasonic LT55

RIAT 2016, 45-175mm + Nikon TC-E17ED

I might take a couple of shots of a test chart, with my Raynox 2020 vs my Nikon E17ED, for comparison - but that would need to be done outdoors... and the weather stinks right now, so don't hold your breath...

Hen3ry
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Re: There is at least one exception...

Adrian Harris wrote:

Hatstand wrote:

TwoMetreBill wrote:

In my experience, it is always true. I've used some converters with large rear elements including those designed for lenses with small front elements and the result was always the same. While I'm only one person, I've used over a dozen auxiliary lenses over the years including some very expensive ones designed for specific cameras.

Panasonic 45-175mm + 1.7x Nikon TC-E17ED.

From my own experience with this combination, the full zoom range is usable with no issues, and little/no vignetting.

The Nikon is high optical quality, unlike the low quality Raynox... and gives roughly 150-600mm FF equivalent when attached to the 45-175mm.

Hi Hatstand, any chance of some examples. The 1.7x Nikon TC-E17ED is one teleconverter that I have not owned or been able to test. 'Back in the days' when TC's were the only way to get more reach, everyone on the Minolta forums said the best of the bunch was the Olympus 1.4x Tcon 14b. But last year when I tried it on a few M43 lenses it performed badly compared to the Raynox - which I admit has many faults, as stated in my article. But I am going to test 4 different TC's against each other in a few weeks for another report to double check them against each other once more.

Anyway, if you could post some example photos where you have used the Nikon TC-E17ED on an M43 lens, it would be much appreciated.

The "low quality Raynox". Well, I'll see. The Raynox c/u lenses are excellent quality.

I just looked it up.That Nikon goes on the rear of the lens, I think. And advantage of the Raynox is that it goes on the front and you don't lose any aperture.

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Hatstand Senior Member • Posts: 1,623
Re: There is at least one exception...

Hen3ry wrote:

The "low quality Raynox". Well, I'll see. The Raynox c/u lenses are excellent quality.

Well, it's relative - the Nikon TC-E17ED is optically superior to every other afocal telconverter I've ever tried... whereas my Raynox 2020 compares very poorly to my other TC's despite having the longest reach of them all...

There may be sample variance, Adrian speaks very highly of his copy and if I understand correctly it is very old... but my copy performs very poorly, and is a lot more recent. The Raynox is also very light for such a TC, which generally doesn't bode well for optical quality...

I just looked it up.That Nikon goes on the rear of the lens, I think. And advantage of the Raynox is that it goes on the front and you don't lose any aperture.

No, the Nikon TC-E17ED is definitely an afocal (end-of-lens) teleconverter...! I've used it a lot, so I ought to know! ;-D

Nikon TC-E17ED

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