Olympus 14-150mm lens f4-5.6 vs Olympus 12-100mm f4 Pro Lens

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LongWayHome New Member • Posts: 9
Olympus 14-150mm lens f4-5.6 vs Olympus 12-100mm f4 Pro Lens

Hello,

I am hoping for some guidance on my lens purchase.  I currently have the Olympus OMD EM1 (usually with the original 14-150mm lens on it when I travel) and I am going to travel from Australia to New York, MaIne and Vermont for a month in September this year.  I am going to upgrade to the OMD EM1 Mark 2 in the next month or so and am wondering if it would be worth upgrading my lens as well. i have been looking at the 12-100mm f4 IS Pro.  I don't specialise in any particular field of photography but I do seem to have a lot of landscapes and wild life photos when I come home from my travels although I will hope to have some nice street/architecture scenes from this trip seeing as I will be in New York.  I already own Olympus 60mm f2.8 macro, Olympus 75-300 f4-5.6 and Olympus 45mm f1.8.  It's the age old question of how much gear should I take/need/want to carry all day lol. Any idea's/advice/words of wisdom will be gratefully received.  Thank you for your help.

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Dash29 Senior Member • Posts: 1,403
Re: Olympus 14-150mm lens f4-5.6 vs Olympus 12-100mm f4 Pro Lens
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If the size and extra weight isnt an issue, dont hesitate as its a very sharp lens

KwhyChang Veteran Member • Posts: 5,990
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I also currently have the E-M1. The 12-100 would be a great lens for that or the E-M1.2 should you get that. But I get great quality with the 14-150 and don't feel the need to add more lenses. I like µ4/3 just for its small size.

My dad and my aunt on E-m5 with 14-150.

For that weight and size, I carry my A7 with the 24-240. Body only and lens would cost less than body only of E-m1.2 Just something to consider.

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Significant benefits to the 12-100 pro over the 14-150

LongWayHome wrote:

Hello,

I am hoping for some guidance on my lens purchase. I currently have the Olympus OMD EM1 (usually with the original 14-150mm lens on it when I travel) and I am going to travel from Australia to New York, MaIne and Vermont for a month in September this year. I am going to upgrade to the OMD EM1 Mark 2 in the next month or so and am wondering if it would be worth upgrading my lens as well. i have been looking at the 12-100mm f4 IS Pro. I don't specialise in any particular field of photography but I do seem to have a lot of landscapes and wild life photos when I come home from my travels although I will hope to have some nice street/architecture scenes from this trip seeing as I will be in New York. I already own Olympus 60mm f2.8 macro, Olympus 75-300 f4-5.6 and Olympus 45mm f1.8. It's the age old question of how much gear should I take/need/want to carry all day lol. Any idea's/advice/words of wisdom will be gratefully received. Thank you for your help.

I found that the 14-150 could perform reasonably well provided it was used within some  bounds. The telephoto end could really give up sharpness especially at 5.6. Using it as a 14-45 lens was the sweet spot.

Since getting the 12-40 Pro my 14-150 sat unused and was recently sold. I don't have a 12-100, but others say it is close to the 12-40 in performance with the benefits of additional lens stabilization. If the 12-100 is similar to the 12-40 you should see excellent results from wide to telephoto without as much concern for stopping down for sharpness. You lose the 100 to 150 focal length but that really is a marginal range for the 14-150 in the first place.

Clayton1985 Veteran Member • Posts: 8,752
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LongWayHome wrote:

Hello,

I am hoping for some guidance on my lens purchase. I currently have the Olympus OMD EM1 (usually with the original 14-150mm lens on it when I travel) and I am going to travel from Australia to New York, MaIne and Vermont for a month in September this year. I am going to upgrade to the OMD EM1 Mark 2 in the next month or so and am wondering if it would be worth upgrading my lens as well. i have been looking at the 12-100mm f4 IS Pro. I don't specialise in any particular field of photography but I do seem to have a lot of landscapes and wild life photos when I come home from my travels although I will hope to have some nice street/architecture scenes from this trip seeing as I will be in New York. I already own Olympus 60mm f2.8 macro, Olympus 75-300 f4-5.6 and Olympus 45mm f1.8. It's the age old question of how much gear should I take/need/want to carry all day lol. Any idea's/advice/words of wisdom will be gratefully received. Thank you for your help.

I think the question might be - what are you not getting from your 14-150?     You'll get some helpful information on how the 12-100 compares to the 14-150 but whether you need those advantages no one really knows.

For me, 12mm vs 14mm is important and overall IQ and especially better performance with the edges and corners is important.    Less important to me is the superior IS you get with the 12-100 but I can tell you the difference is easily noticeable.   The MF clutch and IS button on the lens are also really nice to have.

As far as the size I'm just not buying all of the comments about how big and heavy the 12-100 is.   To me that is most likely from people that don't have the 12-100 lens.    No question it is bigger and heavier than the 14-150 but from a practical standpoint it isn't going to change much of anything about how you store the camera, carry the camera or use the camera.    I have both lenses and there just isn't that much difference in the real world.     Yes, I could see someone that is challenged with anything but the lightest and smallest equipment opting out but for everyone else it's really not much of an issue IMO.     There are a few reasons I am keeping the 14-150 for now though.    Sometimes I'd rather take less expensive equipment with me depending on the purpose of a trip and sometimes I'd like the extra reach without taking a long telephoto lens.

NoTx Senior Member • Posts: 1,998
Re: Significant benefits to the 12-100 pro over the 14-150

What is the wide open f-stop at 100mm for the 14-150?

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Re: Significant benefits to the 12-100 pro over the 14-150

NoTx wrote:

What is the wide open f-stop at 100mm for the 14-150?

By the time you get to 100 it's at 5.6.

Digital Dick Senior Member • Posts: 2,098
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When you need 150 mm during your travels, 100 mm just isn't enough.

I shot for years with a 28 - 200 mm (equivalent ff). It just wasn't enough. The 28 - 300 mm (equivalent) is just right for my taste. f5.6 vs f4 difference isn't as meaningful in typical daylight shooting and for low light shooting, I always carry a flash.

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Clayton1985 Veteran Member • Posts: 8,752
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Digital Dick wrote:

When you need 150 mm during your travels, 100 mm just isn't enough.

I shot for years with a 28 - 200 mm (equivalent ff). It just wasn't enough. The 28 - 300 mm (equivalent) is just right for my taste. f5.6 vs f4 difference isn't as meaningful in typical daylight shooting and for low light shooting, I always carry a flash.

Dick

Yes for me there are times where I want one lens and I want longer than 100mm and that's when I'll use the 14-150 - especially if I'm not as concerned about max IQ.    But I usually need/want longer than 150mm too so most of the time I'll have the 75-300 with me.    It is somewhat rare that I would need to change out the 12-100 only to get the extra range that the 14-150 offers and more common that I would need to change out the 12-100 to get beyond 150mm.

The difference between f4 and f5.6 combined with the superior IS of the 12-100 can be significant but even more useful to me is having a constant aperture.

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Look at the historical metadata to see how much you use the longer focal length
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LongWayHome wrote:

Hello,

I am hoping for some guidance on my lens purchase. I currently have the Olympus OMD EM1 (usually with the original 14-150mm lens on it when I travel) and I am going to travel from Australia to New York, MaIne and Vermont for a month in September this year. I am going to upgrade to the OMD EM1 Mark 2 in the next month or so and am wondering if it would be worth upgrading my lens as well. i have been looking at the 12-100mm f4 IS Pro. I don't specialise in any particular field of photography but I do seem to have a lot of landscapes and wild life photos when I come home from my travels although I will hope to have some nice street/architecture scenes from this trip seeing as I will be in New York. I already own Olympus 60mm f2.8 macro, Olympus 75-300 f4-5.6 and Olympus 45mm f1.8. It's the age old question of how much gear should I take/need/want to carry all day lol. Any idea's/advice/words of wisdom will be gratefully received. Thank you for your help.

If you use Lightroom use the metadata filter to show how often you use various focal lengths. I've found this to be helpful in making these kinds of decisions.

Skeeterbytes Forum Pro • Posts: 18,360
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14mm is too tight for me so the jump to 12mm would be worth the switch by itself before adding sharper, constant aperture and dual IS. However 100mm isn't long enough for wildlife.

I'll go another direction and suggest 12-40 and 40-150 Pros plus MC14.

Good planning to you,

Rick

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OP LongWayHome New Member • Posts: 9
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thanks Dash29.  I'm happy to hear it's a nice sharp lens

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OP LongWayHome New Member • Posts: 9
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Thanks Dave. I do like my OMD EM1 but will go and have a look at your recommendation now.

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OP LongWayHome New Member • Posts: 9
Re: Significant benefits to the 12-100 pro over the 14-150

thanks Greg!

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OP LongWayHome New Member • Posts: 9
Re: Olympus 14-150mm lens f4-5.6 vs Olympus 12-100mm f4 Pro Lens

Clayton1985 wrote:

LongWayHome wrote:

Hello,

I am hoping for some guidance on my lens purchase. I currently have the Olympus OMD EM1 (usually with the original 14-150mm lens on it when I travel) and I am going to travel from Australia to New York, MaIne and Vermont for a month in September this year. I am going to upgrade to the OMD EM1 Mark 2 in the next month or so and am wondering if it would be worth upgrading my lens as well. i have been looking at the 12-100mm f4 IS Pro. I don't specialise in any particular field of photography but I do seem to have a lot of landscapes and wild life photos when I come home from my travels although I will hope to have some nice street/architecture scenes from this trip seeing as I will be in New York. I already own Olympus 60mm f2.8 macro, Olympus 75-300 f4-5.6 and Olympus 45mm f1.8. It's the age old question of how much gear should I take/need/want to carry all day lol. Any idea's/advice/words of wisdom will be gratefully received. Thank you for your help.

I think the question might be - what are you not getting from your 14-150? You'll get some helpful information on how the 12-100 compares to the 14-150 but whether you need those advantages no one really knows.

For me, 12mm vs 14mm is important and overall IQ and especially better performance with the edges and corners is important. Less important to me is the superior IS you get with the 12-100 but I can tell you the difference is easily noticeable. The MF clutch and IS button on the lens are also really nice to have.

As far as the size I'm just not buying all of the comments about how big and heavy the 12-100 is. To me that is most likely from people that don't have the 12-100 lens. No question it is bigger and heavier than the 14-150 but from a practical standpoint it isn't going to change much of anything about how you store the camera, carry the camera or use the camera. I have both lenses and there just isn't that much difference in the real world. Yes, I could see someone that is challenged with anything but the lightest and smallest equipment opting out but for everyone else it's really not much of an issue IMO. There are a few reasons I am keeping the 14-150 for now though. Sometimes I'd rather take less expensive equipment with me depending on the purpose of a trip and sometimes I'd like the extra reach without taking a long telephoto lens.

Thanks Clayton1985,  I did a weigh assessment between the OMD EM1 and my 14-150 and OMD EM Mk2 and 12-100 and it looks like its only about 200g.  I guess I am just trying to get the best and sharpest photo's I can because It may be my only trip to America and I don't want to miss the shot.  Those 24 hour flights are not getting any easier with age lol. I'm am happy to see that you are happy with the 12-100mm though, as I would hate to waste the extra money if I go that way.

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OP LongWayHome New Member • Posts: 9
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Thank you!

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OP LongWayHome New Member • Posts: 9
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Thanks Rick, Hmmmmm I think I had better get saving

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OP LongWayHome New Member • Posts: 9
Re: Look at the historical metadata to see how much you use the longer focal length
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greg 123 wrote:

LongWayHome wrote:

Hello,

I am hoping for some guidance on my lens purchase. I currently have the Olympus OMD EM1 (usually with the original 14-150mm lens on it when I travel) and I am going to travel from Australia to New York, MaIne and Vermont for a month in September this year. I am going to upgrade to the OMD EM1 Mark 2 in the next month or so and am wondering if it would be worth upgrading my lens as well. i have been looking at the 12-100mm f4 IS Pro. I don't specialise in any particular field of photography but I do seem to have a lot of landscapes and wild life photos when I come home from my travels although I will hope to have some nice street/architecture scenes from this trip seeing as I will be in New York. I already own Olympus 60mm f2.8 macro, Olympus 75-300 f4-5.6 and Olympus 45mm f1.8. It's the age old question of how much gear should I take/need/want to carry all day lol. Any idea's/advice/words of wisdom will be gratefully received. Thank you for your help.

If you use Lightroom use the metadata filter to show how often you use various focal lengths. I've found this to be helpful in making these kinds of decisions.

Thanks Greg 123, this has been a good post just for learning that I could use metadata in Lightroom for focal length!  When I looked at my 14-150mm lens I could see that out of 11,378 photos I took 9500 of them in the 14-100 range and 1878 in the 100-150 range.  This has been a very interesting and insightful exercise.

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Clayton1985 Veteran Member • Posts: 8,752
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LongWayHome wrote:

Thanks Clayton1985, I did a weigh assessment between the OMD EM1 and my 14-150 and OMD EM Mk2 and 12-100 and it looks like its only about 200g. I guess I am just trying to get the best and sharpest photo's I can because It may be my only trip to America and I don't want to miss the shot. Those 24 hour flights are not getting any easier with age lol. I'm am happy to see that you are happy with the 12-100mm though, as I would hate to waste the extra money if I go that way.

For me so far, the 12-100 is an amazing lens and fits my needs perfectly.    Granted, I have only used it casually but I have a couple of trips coming up where it will get a better workout.

Mark Rosen
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Basically, I find the 14-150, too soft, with poor contrast, even in good lighting... the 12-100 is sharp from corner to corner, with great contrast...

From another Forum:

I am now home from Cuba, about a month... and after editing thousands of images, I can post a reliable hands on review of the Olympus 12-100m f4 Pro, a remarkable lens.

On other trips, I would generally take two cameras... and EM5 II with a 12-40 2.8, and an EM1-I with a 40-150 2.8. I generally loved this solution... I took great pictures, and was quite satisfied with the 12-150 focal lengths immediately at hand. My only complaint was the inconvenience of carrying two cameras.

As I was preparing for a trip to Cuba, and reading preparatory literature on customs, visa's etc... I learned there were barriers to bringing more than one camera... with the possibility of having to wait in long lines, and perhaps even having one of the cameras held at customs until my return to the airport at the end of the trip. I decided not to test this possibility....

Maybe I could purchase the 12-100? But it was late November, and I was leaving for Cuba 12/4, and it was not yet available in the US. (I was ready to bring my EM5 II with a 14-150... but damn... that lens is just not satisfying. Soft focus, and poor performance in low light.)

Then... a miracle. I saw an announcement on M43 Rumors that Focus Camera had the 12-100 f4 available at $200 above MSRP... that's $1400. Too expensive... but I called them anyway, and a very nice man answered the phone. I told him I was leaving for Cuba in 5 days, and wanted that lens... He was totally willing to sell the lens for the actual price of $1200. I received the new 12-100mm Pro at my door on Friday... 12/2 and left for Cuba on Sunday 12/4. SUCCESS!

Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. This lens is big... and heavy, so I took my EM1-I for the added ergonomics...

So now I find myself in Cuba... with a new f4, in-lens stabilized lens. And Cuba is quite photogenic. But I still had to figure out how to use this new combination. How do you know when the sync IS is working? How does this f4 handle indoors... etc.

Here is a summary of what I learned:

1. The lens is beautifully built... like all the other Olympus pro lenses.

2. It is heavy and big, but worth carrying... because

3. The lens is sharp corner to corner.

4. There is some mild barrel distortion at 12mm.

5. The switch on the lens activates the in-lens stabilization, and appears to immediately activate the sync IS. When the lens stabilization switch is turned off, it appears the IBIS is turned off as well.

6. It is an f4. And does not handle night time, or indoors as well as a 1.8 or 2.8... but it produces surprisingly clear images even at high ISOs... 6400

7. Like all MFT images, there is always too much noise.

8. After comparing 12-100 pro image quality to the image quality of my 2 camera solution (12-40pro and 40-150pro), I am surprisingly satisfied with their near equivalence... Sharp, with great contrast.

You can see my images from Cuba here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/74311887@N06/albums/72157677120445522

Enjoy!

Mark

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