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Eos M or M10?

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Lucorn New Member • Posts: 11
Eos M or M10?

I am looking to enter in the mirrorless world,after years on analogic cameras and point and shoot. I ve seen lots of fantastic devices, but for budget reasons, and since i have already owned some of their cameras i have chosen to buy a canon (although there aren t a lot of ef m lenses). Now i am not sure what to buy between the eos m (used) or a brand new m10. I was going for the m, with i could spare enough money to buy another lens, though i heard about the af problem and i am not so sure anymore. Any advice?

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nnowak Veteran Member • Posts: 9,075
Re: Eos M or M10?

Lucorn wrote:

I am looking to enter in the mirrorless world,after years on analogic cameras and point and shoot. I ve seen lots of fantastic devices, but for budget reasons, and since i have already owned some of their cameras i have chosen to buy a canon (although there aren t a lot of ef m lenses). Now i am not sure what to buy between the eos m (used) or a brand new m10. I was going for the m, with i could spare enough money to buy another lens, though i heard about the af problem and i am not so sure anymore. Any advice?

Check out the M2 (used).  It is slighly smaller than the M and is the smallest M system camera.  In terms of performance, it is a little better than the M in every regard.

OP Lucorn New Member • Posts: 11
Re: Eos M or M10?

nnowak wrote:

Lucorn wrote:

I am looking to enter in the mirrorless world,after years on analogic cameras and point and shoot. I ve seen lots of fantastic devices, but for budget reasons, and since i have already owned some of their cameras i have chosen to buy a canon (although there aren t a lot of ef m lenses). Now i am not sure what to buy between the eos m (used) or a brand new m10. I was going for the m, with i could spare enough money to buy another lens, though i heard about the af problem and i am not so sure anymore. Any advice?

Check out the M2 (used). It is slighly smaller than the M and is the smallest M system camera. In terms of performance, it is a little better than the M in every regard.

Problem is that m2 was not sold in my country (italy), so there are no sellers in my country as far as i know. But thanks for the advice

StevenSHH
StevenSHH Contributing Member • Posts: 609
Re: Eos M or M10?

It will probably be wise to wait until Mid or end of Feb. 26ths as CP+ show is going to unveil new cameras, there might be a discount on current models like M10, in the mean time original M is not expensive, if you can get a good deal - it can be a backup for M10 (they use same battery).

There is rumor of new M10 (2nd generation), but that's probably this year 2017, not sure exact date.

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nnowak Veteran Member • Posts: 9,075
Re: Eos M or M10?

Lucorn wrote:

nnowak wrote:

Lucorn wrote:

I am looking to enter in the mirrorless world,after years on analogic cameras and point and shoot. I ve seen lots of fantastic devices, but for budget reasons, and since i have already owned some of their cameras i have chosen to buy a canon (although there aren t a lot of ef m lenses). Now i am not sure what to buy between the eos m (used) or a brand new m10. I was going for the m, with i could spare enough money to buy another lens, though i heard about the af problem and i am not so sure anymore. Any advice?

Check out the M2 (used). It is slighly smaller than the M and is the smallest M system camera. In terms of performance, it is a little better than the M in every regard.

Problem is that m2 was not sold in my country (italy), so there are no sellers in my country as far as i know. But thanks for the advice

It wasn't sold in my country either (USA), but importing from Japan was quite easy.

OP Lucorn New Member • Posts: 11
Re: Eos M or M10?

StevenSHH wrote:

It will probably be wise to wait until Mid or end of Feb. 26ths as CP+ show is going to unveil new cameras, there might be a discount on current models like M10, in the mean time original M is not expensive, if you can get a good deal - it can be a backup for M10 (they use same battery).

There is rumor of new M10 (2nd generation), but that's probably this year 2017, not sure exact date.

Thanks!

Didn t know about the possible canon announcement, although i don t think there will be a discount on m10, since the new mirrorless should be a pro one. Anyway, what s the purpose of having both eos m and m10? I feel they re like twins...

StevenSHH
StevenSHH Contributing Member • Posts: 609
Re: Eos M or M10?

Original M can use Magic Lantern with right firmware version  (google it), and gives you many hidden capabilities...

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trungtran Senior Member • Posts: 1,747
Re: Eos M or M10?

Both great cameras for the price and size. I have the M1 with ML and it opens up a lot of capabilities.

The m1 is my replacement P&S. The lack of buttons made it cumbersome to adjust settings so i use it mainly in Auto mode. If you want control, an M3 would be better or m5 if you have the funds.

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K29er Regular Member • Posts: 202
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I am very happy with the m10, good price and comes with 15-45. After looking at reviews of the m1 I  see the m10 is better at almost everything. I can't give all the pros I just know everytime I see a review of the m1 I think the m10 does those things better. My thumb is big enough to use all of the d pad without moving so I can use manual mode and change all settings fast and easy without lifting or changing grip.

But... I think if you can find an m1 used with 22f2, 18-55 +/- adapter at the same price I would take it and wait to see the next Gen m.

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nnowak Veteran Member • Posts: 9,075
Re: Eos M or M10?

K29er wrote:

I am very happy with the m10, good price and comes with 15-45. After looking at reviews of the m1 I see the m10 is better at almost everything. I can't give all the pros I just know everytime I see a review of the m1 I think the m10 does those things better. My thumb is big enough to use all of the d pad without moving so I can use manual mode and change all settings fast and easy without lifting or changing grip.

The M10 has a built in flash an a flippy screen.  I am not sure what reviews you are reading, but in all other regards, the M (and especially M2) is a better and more capable camera.  The M10 can't even do bracketing.

But... I think if you can find an m1 used with 22f2, 18-55 +/- adapter at the same price I would take it and wait to see the next Gen m.

emtoo New Member • Posts: 5
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I concur, and I think the M2 is still the best M ever made.

I bought an M5, got frustrated with it, returned it.

Still use and love my M2.

I once had original M, but it was just too slow. But if you shoot video, original M is best because of Magic Lantern -- which never came out for M2 because it wasn't popular enough.

I can't stand the PowerShot M's: M3/M10/M5 Terrible photo colors, poor build quality, bad UI decisions, funky issues with EF/EF-S lenses (IS for example).

K29er Regular Member • Posts: 202
Re: Eos M or M10?

nnowak wrote:

K29er wrote:

I am very happy with the m10, good price and comes with 15-45. After looking at reviews of the m1 I see the m10 is better at almost everything. I can't give all the pros I just know everytime I see a review of the m1 I think the m10 does those things better. My thumb is big enough to use all of the d pad without moving so I can use manual mode and change all settings fast and easy without lifting or changing grip.

The M10 has a built in flash an a flippy screen. I am not sure what reviews you are reading, but in all other regards, the M (and especially M2) is a better and more capable camera. The M10 can't even do bracketing.

I am new to photography. I didn't know HDR was different from bracketing.

But... I think if you can find an m1 used with 22f2, 18-55 +/- adapter at the same price I would take it and wait to see the next Gen m.

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nnowak Veteran Member • Posts: 9,075
Re: Eos M or M10?

K29er wrote:

nnowak wrote:

K29er wrote:

I am very happy with the m10, good price and comes with 15-45. After looking at reviews of the m1 I see the m10 is better at almost everything. I can't give all the pros I just know everytime I see a review of the m1 I think the m10 does those things better. My thumb is big enough to use all of the d pad without moving so I can use manual mode and change all settings fast and easy without lifting or changing grip.

The M10 has a built in flash an a flippy screen. I am not sure what reviews you are reading, but in all other regards, the M (and especially M2) is a better and more capable camera. The M10 can't even do bracketing.

I am new to photography. I didn't know HDR was different from bracketing.

In camera HDR produces a single JPEG file.  Bracketing shoots multiple shots with different exposures in RAW and/or JPEG format.  There are many uses for these multiple varied files.  One is to build your own HDR.  Another is if you are unsure of the correct exposure and want to cover all of your options.

But... I think if you can find an m1 used with 22f2, 18-55 +/- adapter at the same price I would take it and wait to see the next Gen m.

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