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A year after switching from Canon 5D MKII to Sony A7R II
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A year ago I made the switch to Sony A7R II after using Canon 5D MK II for more than 4 years.  My observations are summarized in my blog: http://pixontrips.com/blogs/my-experience-switching-from-canon-5d-mark-ii-to-sony-a7r-ii-one-year-review/.  Here are the highlights.

What I like about A7R II:

  • AF works on all 11 Canon lenses I have had when the lenses are paired with the Metabones Smart Adaptor Mark IV.  
  • 20"x30" prints made from A7R II still show tons of details thanks to the higher resolution of the A7R II senso.  5D MK II is clearly stretched at this size
  • High ISO performance of the A7R II is much better.  
  • 4K video, this going without saying
  • Versatile lens mount: it opens up opportunity for using lenses that have different mount (e.g. Minolta MD)

What can be improved on A7R II?

  • Rear dial, too small, too difficult to use especially in winter
  • Annoying LCD/viewfinder switching

Do I still miss 5D Mark II?

In general, not really.  But I do miss two things:

  • Lightroom Camera Landscape profile for Canon is so wonderful
  • Magic Lantern: I love the ability to shoot video in raw format

You will find more details and sample photos in my blog .

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Astrophotographer 10 Veteran Member • Posts: 8,278
Re: A year after switching from Canon 5D MKII to Sony A7R II

pixontrips wrote:

A year ago I made the switch to Sony A7R II after using Canon 5D MK II for more than 4 years. My observations are summarized in my blog: http://pixontrips.com/blogs/my-experience-switching-from-canon-5d-mark-ii-to-sony-a7r-ii-one-year-review/. Here are the highlights.

What I like about A7R II:

  • AF works on all 11 Canon lenses I have had when the lenses are paired with the Metabones Smart Adaptor Mark IV.
  • 20"x30" prints made from A7R II still show tons of details thanks to the higher resolution of the A7R II senso. 5D MK II is clearly stretched at this size
  • High ISO performance of the A7R II is much better.
  • 4K video, this going without saying
  • Versatile lens mount: it opens up opportunity for using lenses that have different mount (e.g. Minolta MD)

What can be improved on A7R II?

  • Rear dial, too small, too difficult to use especially in winter
  • Annoying LCD/viewfinder switching

Do I still miss 5D Mark II?

In general, not really. But I do miss two things:

  • Lightroom Camera Landscape profile for Canon is so wonderful
  • Magic Lantern: I love the ability to shoot video in raw format

You will find more details and sample photos in my blog .

I think you can half block the eye sensor for the LCD/EVF switching with a bit of black electrical tape. See a post by Jim Kasson about this.

I plan to do that at some point as yes its too sensitive.

Greg.

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Steve W Veteran Member • Posts: 3,149
Re: A year after switching from Canon 5D MKII to Sony A7R II
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Astrophotographer 10 wrote:

pixontrips wrote:

A year ago I made the switch to Sony A7R II after using Canon 5D MK II for more than 4 years. My observations are summarized in my blog: http://pixontrips.com/blogs/my-experience-switching-from-canon-5d-mark-ii-to-sony-a7r-ii-one-year-review/. Here are the highlights.

What I like about A7R II:

  • AF works on all 11 Canon lenses I have had when the lenses are paired with the Metabones Smart Adaptor Mark IV.
  • 20"x30" prints made from A7R II still show tons of details thanks to the higher resolution of the A7R II senso. 5D MK II is clearly stretched at this size
  • High ISO performance of the A7R II is much better.
  • 4K video, this going without saying
  • Versatile lens mount: it opens up opportunity for using lenses that have different mount (e.g. Minolta MD)

What can be improved on A7R II?

  • Rear dial, too small, too difficult to use especially in winter
  • Annoying LCD/viewfinder switching

Do I still miss 5D Mark II?

In general, not really. But I do miss two things:

  • Lightroom Camera Landscape profile for Canon is so wonderful
  • Magic Lantern: I love the ability to shoot video in raw format

You will find more details and sample photos in my blog .

I think you can half block the eye sensor for the LCD/EVF switching with a bit of black electrical tape. See a post by Jim Kasson about this.

I plan to do that at some point as yes its too sensitive.

Greg.

Programmed my C3 button to switch between view finder and rear display manually to get deterministic behavior.

Steve

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pixontrips OP New Member • Posts: 5
Re: A year after switching from Canon 5D MKII to Sony A7R II

Astrophotographer 10 wrote:

pixontrips wrote:

A year ago I made the switch to Sony A7R II after using Canon 5D MK II for more than 4 years. My observations are summarized in my blog: http://pixontrips.com/blogs/my-experience-switching-from-canon-5d-mark-ii-to-sony-a7r-ii-one-year-review/. Here are the highlights.

What I like about A7R II:

  • AF works on all 11 Canon lenses I have had when the lenses are paired with the Metabones Smart Adaptor Mark IV.
  • 20"x30" prints made from A7R II still show tons of details thanks to the higher resolution of the A7R II senso. 5D MK II is clearly stretched at this size
  • High ISO performance of the A7R II is much better.
  • 4K video, this going without saying
  • Versatile lens mount: it opens up opportunity for using lenses that have different mount (e.g. Minolta MD)

What can be improved on A7R II?

  • Rear dial, too small, too difficult to use especially in winter
  • Annoying LCD/viewfinder switching

Do I still miss 5D Mark II?

In general, not really. But I do miss two things:

  • Lightroom Camera Landscape profile for Canon is so wonderful
  • Magic Lantern: I love the ability to shoot video in raw format

You will find more details and sample photos in my blog .

I think you can half block the eye sensor for the LCD/EVF switching with a bit of black electrical tape. See a post by Jim Kasson about this.

I plan to do that at some point as yes its too sensitive.

Greg.

Thanks Greg for the tip.  I will give it a try.

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pixontrips OP New Member • Posts: 5
Re: A year after switching from Canon 5D MKII to Sony A7R II

Steve W wrote:

Astrophotographer 10 wrote:

pixontrips wrote:

A year ago I made the switch to Sony A7R II after using Canon 5D MK II for more than 4 years. My observations are summarized in my blog: http://pixontrips.com/blogs/my-experience-switching-from-canon-5d-mark-ii-to-sony-a7r-ii-one-year-review/. Here are the highlights.

What I like about A7R II:

  • AF works on all 11 Canon lenses I have had when the lenses are paired with the Metabones Smart Adaptor Mark IV.
  • 20"x30" prints made from A7R II still show tons of details thanks to the higher resolution of the A7R II senso. 5D MK II is clearly stretched at this size
  • High ISO performance of the A7R II is much better.
  • 4K video, this going without saying
  • Versatile lens mount: it opens up opportunity for using lenses that have different mount (e.g. Minolta MD)

What can be improved on A7R II?

  • Rear dial, too small, too difficult to use especially in winter
  • Annoying LCD/viewfinder switching

Do I still miss 5D Mark II?

In general, not really. But I do miss two things:

  • Lightroom Camera Landscape profile for Canon is so wonderful
  • Magic Lantern: I love the ability to shoot video in raw format

You will find more details and sample photos in my blog .

I think you can half block the eye sensor for the LCD/EVF switching with a bit of black electrical tape. See a post by Jim Kasson about this.

I plan to do that at some point as yes its too sensitive.

Greg.

Programmed my C3 button to switch between view finder and rear display manually to get deterministic behavior.

Steve

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Perfect.  That is exactly what I wanted.  I am now using C4 to toggle finder/monitor switch.

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Re: A year after switching from Canon 5D MKII to Sony A7R II

This must  be the ultimate comparison between  Cheese and Chalk,  the only thing they have in common is the fact, they are both called a Camera.  cheers.

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Re: A year after switching from Canon 5D MKII to Sony A7R II

I think you can half block the eye sensor for the LCD/EVF switching with a bit of black electrical tape. See a post by Jim Kasson about this.

Initially I was excited about this, but in practice it does not work really well, cause there is a very fine line between too sensitive and not sensitive at all.

So either dedicate a button to this, or as a work-around, you can slide the eye-cup upwards whenever the LCD switches off during waist level. This works reliably and is almost like having a dedicated button/lever.

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Re: A year after switching from Canon 5D MKII to Sony A7R II
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curlyone wrote:

This must be the ultimate comparison between Cheese and Chalk, the only thing they have in common is the fact, they are both called a Camera. cheers.

That must be the exaggeration of the year

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Re: A year after switching from Canon 5D MKII to Sony A7R II

Programmed my C3 button to switch between view finder and rear display manually to get deterministic behavior.

Steve

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Ditto what Steve wrote.  This is actually a nice benefit of the A7Rii vs, the previous A7 models as you had to go into the menu for the view finder/LCD to switch, was not custom assignable but is now on the A7rII and if you shoot in the cold is almost a requirement.

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Jrnichols5 Regular Member • Posts: 189
Re: A year after switching from Canon 5D MKII to Sony A7R II

Astrophotographer 10 wrote:

pixontrips wrote:

A year ago I made the switch to Sony A7R II after using Canon 5D MK II for more than 4 years. My observations are summarized in my blog: http://pixontrips.com/blogs/my-experience-switching-from-canon-5d-mark-ii-to-sony-a7r-ii-one-year-review/. Here are the highlights.

What I like about A7R II:

  • AF works on all 11 Canon lenses I have had when the lenses are paired with the Metabones Smart Adaptor Mark IV.
  • 20"x30" prints made from A7R II still show tons of details thanks to the higher resolution of the A7R II senso. 5D MK II is clearly stretched at this size
  • High ISO performance of the A7R II is much better.
  • 4K video, this going without saying
  • Versatile lens mount: it opens up opportunity for using lenses that have different mount (e.g. Minolta MD)

What can be improved on A7R II?

  • Rear dial, too small, too difficult to use especially in winter
  • Annoying LCD/viewfinder switching

Do I still miss 5D Mark II?

In general, not really. But I do miss two things:

  • Lightroom Camera Landscape profile for Canon is so wonderful
  • Magic Lantern: I love the ability to shoot video in raw format

You will find more details and sample photos in my blog .

I think you can half block the eye sensor for the LCD/EVF switching with a bit of black electrical tape. See a post by Jim Kasson about this.

I plan to do that at some point as yes its too sensitive.

Greg.

Or more simply set a custom button (trash can on my camera) to toggle between the LCD and EVF. That way it only switches when I want it to.

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Alphabert Junior Member • Posts: 44
Re: A year after switching from Canon 5D MKII to Sony A7R II
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pixontrips wrote:

A year ago I made the switch to Sony A7R II after using Canon 5D MK II for more than 4 years. My observations are summarized in my blog: http://pixontrips.com/blogs/my-experience-switching-from-canon-5d-mark-ii-to-sony-a7r-ii-one-year-review/. Here are the highlights.

What I like about A7R II:

  • AF works on all 11 Canon lenses I have had when the lenses are paired with the Metabones Smart Adaptor Mark IV.
  • 20"x30" prints made from A7R II still show tons of details thanks to the higher resolution of the A7R II senso. 5D MK II is clearly stretched at this size
  • High ISO performance of the A7R II is much better.
  • 4K video, this going without saying
  • Versatile lens mount: it opens up opportunity for using lenses that have different mount (e.g. Minolta MD)

What can be improved on A7R II?

  • Rear dial, too small, too difficult to use especially in winter
  • Annoying LCD/viewfinder switching

Do I still miss 5D Mark II?

In general, not really. But I do miss two things:

  • Lightroom Camera Landscape profile for Canon is so wonderful
  • Magic Lantern: I love the ability to shoot video in raw format

You will find more details and sample photos in my blog .

I never owned 5DMKII but my friends do/did and I would add to what I like:

- the IBIS is great, always. period. But even better with vintage and adopted lenses.

- smart remote app and ability to control camera with smartphone is wonderful (in the latest version of the app)

- customization of nearly all buttons is GREAT!

To the bad things for sure you cannot deny that a little longer battery life would be nice.

About the LR camera profiles, I had the same issue. Used only the Adobe profiles until I ran over the HUELIGHT profiles (here: http://www.colorfidelity.com/sony.htm) Love those much better than Adobe's or Sony's, especially the skin tones do come out much better.

Steve W Veteran Member • Posts: 3,149
Re: A year after switching from Canon 5D MKII to Sony A7R II
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Alphabert wrote:.

I never owned 5DMKII but my friends do/did and I would add to what I like:

- the IBIS is great, always. period. But even better with vintage and adopted lenses.

- smart remote app and ability to control camera with smartphone is wonderful (in the latest version of the app)

- customization of nearly all buttons is GREAT!

To the bad things for sure you cannot deny that a little longer battery life would be nice.

About the LR camera profiles, I had the same issue. Used only the Adobe profiles until I ran over the HUELIGHT profiles (here: http://www.colorfidelity.com/sony.htm) Love those much better than Adobe's or Sony's, especially the skin tones do come out much better.

I use the HueLight profiles for all my cameras, Sony and Canon now, Fuji in the past. Gives me some bit of consistency across camera brands and different bodies.

Steve W

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janez Regular Member • Posts: 179
Re: A year after switching from Canon 5D MKII to Sony A7R II

pixontrips wrote:

A year ago I made the switch to Sony A7R II after using Canon 5D MK II for more than 4 years. My observations are summarized in my blog: http://pixontrips.com/blogs/my-experience-switching-from-canon-5d-mark-ii-to-sony-a7r-ii-one-year-review/. Here are the highlights.

What I like about A7R II:

  • AF works on all 11 Canon lenses I have had when the lenses are paired with the Metabones Smart Adaptor Mark IV.
  • 20"x30" prints made from A7R II still show tons of details thanks to the higher resolution of the A7R II senso. 5D MK II is clearly stretched at this size
  • High ISO performance of the A7R II is much better.
  • 4K video, this going without saying
  • Versatile lens mount: it opens up opportunity for using lenses that have different mount (e.g. Minolta MD)

What can be improved on A7R II?

  • Rear dial, too small, too difficult to use especially in winter
  • Annoying LCD/viewfinder switching

Do I still miss 5D Mark II?

In general, not really. But I do miss two things:

  • Lightroom Camera Landscape profile for Canon is so wonderful
  • Magic Lantern: I love the ability to shoot video in raw format

You will find more details and sample photos in my blog .

Would you make a switch from 5D4 to A7R II?

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Don't miss my 5D3. Two suggestions.

Switch to manual and map 'down ring" for ev/ovf switch.

Huelight profiles ( they are body specific)

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pixontrips OP New Member • Posts: 5
Re: A year after switching from Canon 5D MKII to Sony A7R II

janez wrote:

pixontrips wrote:

A year ago I made the switch to Sony A7R II after using Canon 5D MK II for more than 4 years. My observations are summarized in my blog: http://pixontrips.com/blogs/my-experience-switching-from-canon-5d-mark-ii-to-sony-a7r-ii-one-year-review/. Here are the highlights.

What I like about A7R II:

  • AF works on all 11 Canon lenses I have had when the lenses are paired with the Metabones Smart Adaptor Mark IV.
  • 20"x30" prints made from A7R II still show tons of details thanks to the higher resolution of the A7R II senso. 5D MK II is clearly stretched at this size
  • High ISO performance of the A7R II is much better.
  • 4K video, this going without saying
  • Versatile lens mount: it opens up opportunity for using lenses that have different mount (e.g. Minolta MD)

What can be improved on A7R II?

  • Rear dial, too small, too difficult to use especially in winter
  • Annoying LCD/viewfinder switching

Do I still miss 5D Mark II?

In general, not really. But I do miss two things:

  • Lightroom Camera Landscape profile for Canon is so wonderful
  • Magic Lantern: I love the ability to shoot video in raw format

You will find more details and sample photos in my blog .

Would you make a switch from 5D4 to A7R II?

Since I don't own 5D4, my opinions are based on reviews I read online.

  • A7R II still wins in high ISO performance and exposure latitude,  though marginally according to DPreview's results.
  • You may think 42MP is not that much different from 30MP if you don't regularly make large prints.  But look from another perspective, A7R II has an option that allows you to switch between full frame and APS-C format.  In APS-C mode you still get 18MP (1.54x cropping factor), which is still very useful.   In certain situations, 18MP is more than enough.  I use this feature a lot when travel light is more important.  For instance, an EF20mm f2.8 can also be used as a 31mm f2.8, perfect combo for street photography.   A TS-E 17mm f/4L can be doubled as a 26mm TS-E, and an EF100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L becomes 600mm f5.6 at the long end.  On the other hand, 5D4 only gives you 12MP in APS-C mode.
  • A7R II can use all EF-S lens when paired with the Metabones adaptor, which is not true for 5D4.

Had I already purchased 5D4, I probably wouldn't switch to A7R II either  The difference in performance doesn't justify the hassle, plus 5D4 is less expensive than A7R II + Metabones.  Moreover, 5D4 has better AF in my opinion (I am being speculative).

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janez Regular Member • Posts: 179
Re: A year after switching from Canon 5D MKII to Sony A7R II

Would you make a switch from 5D4 to A7R II?

Since I don't own 5D4, my opinions are based on reviews I read online.

  • A7R II still wins in high ISO performance and exposure latitude, though marginally according to DPreview's results.
  • You may think 42MP is not that much different from 30MP if you don't regularly make large prints. But look from another perspective, A7R II has an option that allows you to switch between full frame and APS-C format. In APS-C mode you still get 18MP (1.54x cropping factor), which is still very useful. In certain situations, 18MP is more than enough. I use this feature a lot when travel light is more important. For instance, an EF20mm f2.8 can also be used as a 31mm f2.8, perfect combo for street photography. A TS-E 17mm f/4L can be doubled as a 26mm TS-E, and an EF100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L becomes 600mm f5.6 at the long end. On the other hand, 5D4 only gives you 12MP in APS-C mode.
  • A7R II can use all EF-S lens when paired with the Metabones adaptor, which is not true for 5D4.

Had I already purchased 5D4, I probably wouldn't switch to A7R II either The difference in performance doesn't justify the hassle, plus 5D4 is less expensive than A7R II + Metabones. Moreover, 5D4 has better AF in my opinion (I am being speculative).

Thanks. I have APS-C Canon body and IQ for stills is good enough for my purposes but I need better quality video (4K). I am looking at A7R II and 5D4 for upgrade. I guess crop modes (at 4K video) on both cameras would give similar results in terms of IQ however A7R II also have FF 4K mode. How is that mode usable because I don't want change lens to often when going from still to video? Which lens are best for 4K video on A7RII ?

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pixontrips OP New Member • Posts: 5
Re: A year after switching from Canon 5D MKII to Sony A7R II

Thanks. I have APS-C Canon body and IQ for stills is good enough for my purposes but I need better quality video (4K). I am looking at A7R II and 5D4 for upgrade. I guess crop modes (at 4K video) on both cameras would give similar results in terms of IQ however A7R II also have FF 4K mode. How is that mode usable because I don't want change lens to often when going from still to video? Which lens are best for 4K video on A7RII ?

With A7R II, 4K video can be recorded in either full frame mode or Super (crop) 35 mode.  Super 35 mode has better video quality according to DPReview test.

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