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Amazing Camera i ever used

Started Dec 29, 2016 | User reviews
(unknown member) Senior Member • Posts: 2,477
LOL, so you don't own an NX500
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jeszkar wrote:

Like I said I don't use my touchscreen for any of those thing. So I don't care. And for the LCD well I can't see LCD for my NX500 either so it wouldn't made a huge difference.

If you can't see the LCD on the NX500 and you never use the touchscreen, then you clearly never owned one.

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Kisaha Senior Member • Posts: 2,300
Re: Most who have tried it, say the same thing
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jeszkar wrote:

Well it is good you wanted to convince me that Nikon and Canon camera are better then Sony... I wait you didn't. You wanted to convince me that the NX500 is better than the Sony. So your point is pointless. But please if that your argument show me professionals who argue for Samsung. I remember when you guys even got triggered when Phillip Bloom said the NX1 is not best hybrid camera (he preferred the A7 line)

Also you fail to argue for anything so I have to do nothing else with you. The NX500 is a camera without EVF, with weak AF system, worse video capability and not In-built image stabilization (not to mentioned no weather sealed) and again it is dead system. Your investment will become useless much faster than buying Nikon, Sony, Canon or Fuji.

..and your arguments are what? If NX500 is such a terrible camera why you "own" one?

weak AF system in comparison to what? worse video capability from what? have you tried NX1? it even has DUAL IS, 2 years ago.

in built image stabilization is in the a6500 for the very first time, a camera that will be available in my EU country next week, and it is for 1800euros body only, and in most things, NX500 which I bought more than a year ago with an excellent 16-50pz lens (unlike the Sony one, which have to buy extra by the way and it is one of the worst kit lenses ever) for 550euros (new of course, with one more year of warranty left) is better, and I have used it already professionally as a B or C camera dozens of times.

I do not try to convince you about anything, it is obvious that you know everything already, I just humbly mentioned that the vast majority of professional photographers use Canonikon, oh yeah, because they work reliably, unlike most Sony. When you are a professional, something that you clearly aren't, want something that works reliably, in all times and with the most productive way possible.

I didn't fail to argue, you fail completely in human communication. Whatever I tried to say in the first time (or whoever tried to make a civilized conversation with you) you were just "don't care about that", so if you don't care about "this" and about "that" then how can one argue with you? What you long is a monologue, or something epic that you have thought about yourself, the rest are not important anyway.

My "investments" are just right, and I am glad to inform you that have paid for them already. And because you are a month or something old, I have to bring up the reality that most photographers still use dSLRs, and still BUY dSLRs. Video professionals buy and use dedicated video cameras, this is the reality /

In mirrorless format, m4/3 produce amazing cameras and the new Olympus and (check tomorrow for the announcements) GH5 will be even better, and even the Fuji is a series company with the right attitude.

As of the in built IBIS, which is the talk of the town lately, the new Fuji hasn't (neither touch screen, but you don't care, sorry) and more than a century that people make movies without image stabilizers? and do all the Alexas and Reds and Canons C of this world that do not have in built image stabilizer, have to apologize to you?

So to recap,

touch screen implementation of a6500 WORST in industry

in image stabilization of a6500 WORST in industry

ergonomics of a6500 WORST in industry

battery of a6500 WORST in industry (even from the a6300, well done Sony!)

heat management of a6500 WORST in industry

AF second (or third, some Fuji users have different opinion about it, and Canon's dual pixel is KING, it is the only one I use professionally, and when I have used NX on a Ronin, never failed me, but only for Ronin) in industry

As I see it, the best second AF is good enough for most things, and ISO performance is great. 1 and a half out of 10 isn't a very good score, or else I would take a Black Magic pocket for video, and a D750 for photos and the occasional video.

You mentioned Philip Bloom, in his latest AF video, NX1 out of the blue had the best AF technology after the latest Canon 1D and a6300. I wouldn't score that as "WORST in industry", like most of the a6500's "awards".

P.S funny thing just remembered, check at the dpr review, a6500 has WORST 1080p video even from the a6000!

well, you seem like the useless type of guy, I will find it for you

"1080 video is surprisingly poor by current standards, even taking a step backward from the original a6000, and falling far behind what the company's own RX100 cameras are capable of."

You obviously do not care about 1080p, you always shoot and edit 4K, you have the equipment, the editing machine, the hard drives, multiple ultra fast SC cards, well, guess what, even for that, H265 is so much better for all these things! That's what I called back then "H265 is future proof"./

another one, Canon M5 has 82% score, a6500 85%!

wait, another one, "The a6500 can shoot 1080/120p or 100p video at either 100 mbps or 60 mbps. This uses a slightly smaller crop from the sensor than the lower frame rate options, though not quite as tight a crop as the 4K/30p mode." , oh yes, sorry for that, it also crops..

markyboy81 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,778
Re: Disappointment may await.
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jeszkar wrote:

Like I said I don't use my touchscreen for any of those thing. So I don't care. And for the LCD well I can't see LCD for my NX500 either so it wouldn't made a huge difference.

Why can't you see the LCD? To me it's very visible in even bright sunlight. Unless.. You were having a little joke and that in fact it of course doesn't have an LCD instead opting for a super amoled screen, in which case I'm chuckling quietly to myself.

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markyboy81 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,778
Re: Disappointment may await.

Fun 4 all wrote:

Do some research on the A6500.

The touchscreen you mention is a complete fail. Not only is there considerable lag, but it is near useless. It is a different type than on your NX500 and smartphone and has difficulty recognizing most actions. It can't be used to take a picture, it can't be used to change settings, it can't be used to change focal points most of the time (and when you can, you have to start at the old one and slide you finger hoping the screen registers all the movement), and overall can't do 1/10th of the things other cameras with touchscreens can do.

Do you want to take 4K video? The A6500 dims the LCD to a near unusable level.

There are many more problems with the camera compared your NX500 that will disappoint you.

Slightly off topic, but what would you say is the best mode to have the touchscreen in? I'm wanting to use it more but I find that using it to focus is annoying as this seems to reset when I half press the shutter button (is there a workaround)?

Or are the other modes better - tracking, take a picture, etc..

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(unknown member) Senior Member • Posts: 2,477
Re: Disappointment may await.

markyboy81 wrote:

Fun 4 all wrote:

Do some research on the A6500.

The touchscreen you mention is a complete fail. Not only is there considerable lag, but it is near useless. It is a different type than on your NX500 and smartphone and has difficulty recognizing most actions. It can't be used to take a picture, it can't be used to change settings, it can't be used to change focal points most of the time (and when you can, you have to start at the old one and slide you finger hoping the screen registers all the movement), and overall can't do 1/10th of the things other cameras with touchscreens can do.

Do you want to take 4K video? The A6500 dims the LCD to a near unusable level.

There are many more problems with the camera compared your NX500 that will disappoint you.

Slightly off topic, but what would you say is the best mode to have the touchscreen in? I'm wanting to use it more but I find that using it to focus is annoying as this seems to reset when I half press the shutter button (is there a workaround)?

Or are the other modes better - tracking, take a picture, etc..

For portraits it is what I use exclusively.   I touch on the eye I want in focus and it instantly takes the picture.

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Kinson Wong
Kinson Wong Forum Member • Posts: 81
Re: Most who have tried it, say the same thing
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jeszkar wrote:

Sadly every system has something what prevents me from to pick it up.

Samsung: Why probably it would be the easiest to just stay at Samsung and buy an NX1 next to my NX500 but still it is a dead system.

Fuji: While the XT-2 seems like an awesome camera: Great AF system, weather sealed, good frame rate and buffer size. But you basically have to buy a battery grip too. Also you can't also you use log if you don't have an external recorder. Which is cool if you only interested in video. But I often go to convention where I do both photos and edit music videos. An external recorder would just slow me down.

Panasonic: While GH5 looks like is going to be an awesome camera. (also the g80 is a nice one too). It will have a huge problem. It is still a Micro Four Thirds so the low light performance is probably going to be bad.

Canon: While I read good reviews about its new M5 but as I can see it is still miles away from Sony, Fuji, Panasonic and Samsung.

Sony: It is a little more complicated. I definitely would pick 6500 over 6300. Not only because it seems it has less overheating issue but also because it has in-body image stabilization. I know the touch screen is not perfectly integrated but I barely use touch screen even on my NX500 (Even for focusing - I am more of a focus-recompose guy). The only downside is the awful rolling shutter. Which is just look tragic. Of course they also have the full-frame mirrorless and the SLT series. But both series has some really annoying feature.

Olympus: Again Micro Four Thirds. So it has the same issues as the Panasonic.

Nikon: While they didn't really do mirroless cameras. I guess I could pick up something like the D500 which seems like a good camera but also nothing really special. It hasn't got any particular weakness but also not any unique strength.

I have NX500, NX1 & XT-2. The AF system of XT-2 depends on lens and ok for SAF only, CAF is suck & un-usable.

If according to your gear list, all your lens are very slow & not good for video AF.

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