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In-camera HDR

Started Dec 15, 2016 | Discussions
krais New Member • Posts: 12
In-camera HDR

Hello! I was wondering if you would know which Samsung NX mirrorless cameras have an in-camera HDR function. I know at least the newer models as well as NX2000 and NX300 from a few years ago have it. Any others? Thanks for your help in advance!

Samsung NX20 Samsung NX2000 Samsung NX300M
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markyboy81 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,778
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As far as I know, even the older models have this.

However, I haven't found it to be that good and I prefer using bracketing mode and then either manually stitching the photos, or uploading to google photos where it does the job for you.

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VisualFX
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Here is some info on NX500 HDR mode. It takes 2 photos and merges them. Not sure why anyone these days would still use HDR.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/samsung-nx500/samsung-nx500A5.HTM

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mordor_74 Contributing Member • Posts: 622
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HDR is called Smartrange in the samsung menu, if you are shooting jpg.

All sensor with 20mpx have a very good DR, you can just shot in raw and then arrange DR with hilight and shadows. I archive very good result with this method. Next step will be bracketing, a lot more of work and the major enancement will be less noise in the shadow but if the subject is not perfetcly stable you may loose some resolution.

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ttbek Veteran Member • Posts: 4,869
Re: In-camera HDR

mordor_74 wrote:

HDR is called Smartrange in the samsung menu, if you are shooting jpg.

That's not quite what most people mean when they say HDR.

All sensor with 20mpx have a very good DR, you can just shot in raw and then arrange DR with hilight and shadows. I archive very good result with this method. Next step will be bracketing, a lot more of work and the major enancement will be less noise in the shadow but if the subject is not perfetcly stable you may loose some resolution.

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OP krais New Member • Posts: 12
Re: In-camera HDR

VisualFX wrote:

Here is some info on NX500 HDR mode. It takes 2 photos and merges them. Not sure why anyone these days would still use HDR.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/samsung-nx500/samsung-nx500A5.HTM

Thank you for the info all of you! The HDR function is useful when posting photos straight to social media via phone and a Snapseed or a Lighroom app. That is, publishing the without using the computer.

markyboy81 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,778
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krais wrote:

VisualFX wrote:

Here is some info on NX500 HDR mode. It takes 2 photos and merges them. Not sure why anyone these days would still use HDR.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/samsung-nx500/samsung-nx500A5.HTM

Thank you for the info all of you! The HDR function is useful when posting photos straight to social media via phone and a Snapseed or a Lighroom app. That is, publishing the without using the computer.

You can still do this by using bracketing and simply uploading the images to Google photos on your phone - the only problem is you can't adjust the HDR in any way, you're just stuck with whatever Google creates. I've got some interesting images though, as below - these were taken with the NX 3000 and 16mm lens.

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VisualFX
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mordor_74 wrote:

HDR is called Smartrange in the samsung menu, if you are shooting jpg.

All sensor with 20mpx have a very good DR, you can just shot in raw and then arrange DR with hilight and shadows. I archive very good result with this method. Next step will be bracketing, a lot more of work and the major enancement will be less noise in the shadow but if the subject is not perfetcly stable you may loose some resolution.

SmartRange is different from the HDR option. SmartRange boosts midtones and stretches out the exposure. The HDR mode takes multiple exposures and combines them.

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OP krais New Member • Posts: 12
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Thanks for the tip! I just need to find that function in the Google Photos app... 😉

markyboy81 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,778
Re: In-camera HDR

krais wrote:

Thanks for the tip! I just need to find that function in the Google Photos app... 😉

It's not a function that you can set, as such. Just upload the images and you'll get a notification at some point that a HDR has been created.

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mordor_74 Contributing Member • Posts: 622
Re: In-camera HDR

VisualFX wrote:

mordor_74 wrote:

HDR is called Smartrange in the samsung menu, if you are shooting jpg.

All sensor with 20mpx have a very good DR, you can just shot in raw and then arrange DR with hilight and shadows. I archive very good result with this method. Next step will be bracketing, a lot more of work and the major enancement will be less noise in the shadow but if the subject is not perfetcly stable you may loose some resolution.

SmartRange is different from the HDR option. SmartRange boosts midtones and stretches out the exposure. The HDR mode takes multiple exposures and combines them.

I wonder why everything should come to polemics here...

wiki says:

" high dynamic range (HDR) [is a] technique used in imaging and photography to reproduce a greater dynamic range of luminosity than is possible with standard digital imaging or photographic techniques."

This is the italian FAQ for Samsung NX:

http://www.samsung.com/it/support/skp/faq/865776

Samsung States:

"Smart Range is a feature that automatically corrects the loss of bright detail that can occur due to shading differences in the photo (see photo)."

In fact smart range captures a slightly underexposed image and then recover the shadows (just some of us will do in LR). You can see the result in the picture of the link. Obviously it is not the same result of a fully functional HDR process but this "halfway" (but still "a greater dynamic range" than the same picture taken without Smartrange!) result is the best thing you can get "incamera" from many samsung nx models.

Also what you describe as "HDR mode" is just one of the techinques that can be used to get an HDR image: stacking. Stacking was the most used tecnique before the coming of isoinvariant sensors and actual DR performances (12.0EV or more!). Now many photographer just use slides on LR with a single RAW frame. Since the sensor is isoinvariant the detail contained in shadow and hilights is almost the same than the same image captured under and overexposed. The main difference with the result of stacked images is that the stacked images can be used as noisemask to make a cleaner image but on the other side the bracketing shots may have differences (camera moving, changes in the subject like people moving the wind moving a tree) that can compromise the final result in term of sharpness.

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markyboy81 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,778
Re: In-camera HDR

mordor_74 wrote:

VisualFX wrote:

mordor_74 wrote:

HDR is called Smartrange in the samsung menu, if you are shooting jpg.

All sensor with 20mpx have a very good DR, you can just shot in raw and then arrange DR with hilight and shadows. I archive very good result with this method. Next step will be bracketing, a lot more of work and the major enancement will be less noise in the shadow but if the subject is not perfetcly stable you may loose some resolution.

SmartRange is different from the HDR option. SmartRange boosts midtones and stretches out the exposure. The HDR mode takes multiple exposures and combines them.

I wonder why everything should come to polemics here...

wiki says:

" high dynamic range (HDR) [is a] technique used in imaging and photography to reproduce a greater dynamic range of luminosity than is possible with standard digital imaging or photographic techniques."

This is the italian FAQ for Samsung NX:

http://www.samsung.com/it/support/skp/faq/865776

Samsung States:

"Smart Range is a feature that automatically corrects the loss of bright detail that can occur due to shading differences in the photo (see photo)."

In fact smart range captures a slightly underexposed image and then recover the shadows (just some of us will do in LR). You can see the result in the picture of the link. Obviously it is not the same result of a fully functional HDR process but this "halfway" (but still "a greater dynamic range" than the same picture taken without Smartrange!) result is the best thing you can get "incamera" from many samsung nx models.

Also what you describe as "HDR mode" is just one of the techinques that can be used to get an HDR image: stacking. Stacking was the most used tecnique before the coming of isoinvariant sensors and actual DR performances (12.0EV or more!). Now many photographer just use slides on LR with a single RAW frame. Since the sensor is isoinvariant the detail contained in shadow and hilights is almost the same than the same image captured under and overexposed. The main difference with the result of stacked images is that the stacked images can be used as noisemask to make a cleaner image but on the other side the bracketing shots may have differences (camera moving, changes in the subject like people moving the wind moving a tree) that can compromise the final result in term of sharpness.

So, is smart range a good option then?

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OP krais New Member • Posts: 12
Re: In-camera HDR

You can still do this by using bracketing and simply uploading the images to Google photos on your phone - the only problem is you can't adjust the HDR in any way, you're just stuck with whatever Google creates. I've got some interesting images though, as below - these were taken with the NX 3000 and 16mm lens.

This sounds great, but Google Images still hasn't stacked my bracketed photos I uploaded yesterday. I don't know what the problem is.

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