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Cebu, Philippines

Started Oct 5, 2016 | Photos
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Cebu, Philippines

Bought myself an Ikelite actionhousing for my aging Sony Rx100 (Mark I). Put it on my Sealife tray with a Sealife videolight. Here are some shots:

Small yellow frogfish.

Turtle. Night dive.

Lionfish. Nightdive.

Green soft coral + a (i guess) goby.

Ghost pipefish

Large grey frogfish

Large yellow frogfish

Sardines + diver

More sardines

Whaleshark and diver. Visibility was pretty poor, I am still trying to process the image in a better way to get the clarity better.

Comment & critique:
Please provide me constructive critique and criticism.
Sony RX100
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Tomx72 Senior Member • Posts: 1,574
Re: Cebu, Philippines

Very nice results with just a video light/no strobe!

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Tomx72 wrote:

Very nice results with just a video light/no strobe!

The last three were without the video light. Just the plain camera.

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How are you processing the images? Did you shoot in RAW? I may be able to give you some tips on increasing clarity.

I use Lightroom.

On some (perhaps most) flash shots I end up reducing highlights to bring out details. Flash on fish and crustaceans can be very reflective. Your lionfish shot, for instance, could be improved.

To make cloudy water look clearer, I pull the blacks down until the histogram comes close to the left edge. Sometimes have to increase overall exposure as this darken things up, but it can make a big difference.

Here are shots from Roatan last year, mostly done with a Sony RX100 II and dual strobes, but some from a Canon s95 and a Canon s120 with no flash. http://www.cjcphoto.net/roatan2015/misc/index4.html

As an example of how you can clear things up with that Blacks slider,  here is a shot my wife took last year with a Canon s120 in kind of murky conditions in St Thomas.  (Unfortunately shot in JPG mode so post-processing was limited):

St Thomas - yes, the water looked like this pretty accurately, other than colors.

I took a shot of my wife about the same time, and the out-of-camera shot looked like the above.   However, after some post-processing I got this:

I find that the vast majority of my underwater shots need a good deal of post-processing, and typically I'll be doing this:

1. Adjust exposure, often increasing it, but sometimes decreasing if I overdid the flash.  Generally within +/- 1 stop.

2. Pull highlights way down, often 90-100% (in Lightroom).  This will bring out a lot of subtle details (christmas tree worms) and reduce reflections (fish, lobsters, etc.)

3. Pull shadows up - depends on the scene a lot.  Usually in the range of 10-40%

4. Pull blacks down until the left edge of the histogram almost hits the far left side.  Careful not to go too far.   This one greatly increases apparent clarity by reducing haze.

5. Play with clarity a bit (1-10), vibrance and saturation (maybe +5 each).

Before doing any of the above I try to set a 'good' white balance, as it makes a huge difference.  I generally use  the eye dropper tool on something close to the camera that is either white (corals, sand) or metallic (parts on a diver).   A lot of times I just fiddle until it 'looks good'.    It's extremely useful to shoot in RAW mode.

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OP (unknown member) Veteran Member • Posts: 3,098
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The posted images were quickly edited in Snapseed on my tablet. These were jpg images.

But I shot all of them RAW+jpg and I will start processing them properly in Lightroom this weekend. I will try your suggestions, and post some results.

Thanks.

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It's too bad you shot with such high shutter speeds, necessitating really high ISO images.   What you want is a lot of dynamic range to allow you more latitude in pulling up shadows and reducing highlights.

I try to keep shutter speeds around 1/160th or a bit higher, though I'm now dealing with a DSLR that has much lower sync speeds than a mirrorless camera.  (Max 1/250th-1/320th, for my camera).

On the whale shark image you may be able to boost exposure by a stop, then pull the black slider back to clarify the image.   It tends to be more effective for underwater shots than using the clarity slider.

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I have a couple of mine from RX100III, also from Cebu

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OP (unknown member) Veteran Member • Posts: 3,098
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Nice shots.

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I shot them all high ISO because I am not happy with the rx100 at lower shutter speeds. The VR/anti-shake is really bad, and even on dry land, I get blurry pictures at 1/80th of a second. So, since there is even less light under water, I took no risk what so ever, and set the ISO to 1600, fixed.

I have noticed that the, especially with the whalesharks, the results would have been better with an ISO of 800 or 400, because with most of the shots, I would have gotten an acceptable fast shutter speed. But it was a trade off, I hate fiddling with the buttons and settings underwater.

I did some more post, and most of the times, I am happy. Just some shots where the noise might bother you.

Thanks for the tips and feedback!

The images in te firs post do not display anymore because that temporary album on flickr has gone. Sorry for that. Here are some of the final images.

Thanks for looking.

Leaf scorpion fish.

Lion fish.

Frog fish (head is left, tail is right) .

Huge school of sardines near Panagsama, Moalboal, Cebu.

Same school of sardines, with some anchor cables.

Uran-utan crab

Porcelain crab.

Big yellow frog fish,

Ghost pipe fish.

My wife.

Me, videoing the sardines.

PHXAZCRAIG
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very nice

Just looked back at this thread and discovered your post with the missing images.  Very nice.  I've never seen a whale shark, but would certainly like to.

I only used my RX100 II for about a year (3 dive trips), so I never mastered it.  (Updated to Nikon D810 underwater, with RX100 as backup camera).

When I first shot the RX100 II, I tried using it in Aperture mode, which is my usual above-water mode for a DSLR.   I like controlling depth of field.   However, my shutter speeds were dropping way too low, resulting in a lot of blurry shots.   I then switched to Shutter priority and found good results from 1/125th to 1/200th.   I usually opted to stay at 1/160th to keep the ISO down.   I don't like the results above ISO 800.

On my DSLR, I shoot in manual mode to keep a minimum shutter speed and (especially for macro) control depth of field.    But my Nikon gives me a lot of control over ISO even in Auto ISO mode, plus it performs quite well up to ISO 3200.   I was somewhat frustrated with the Sony user interface underwater, partly simply because it was difficult to read the small print when I changed modes to even know what mode I was in.  (Unlike my Canon point-n-shoots, which announce a mode change in letters 1/3rd the size of the LCD.)    Ultimately I liked the 20mp (compared to my Canon s95), the better ISO performance of the larger sensor (compared to s95), and the ability to shoot in RAW regardless of the mode selected.    But I did not find the autofocus speed to be significantly better than a point-n-shoot, so moved (finally) on to a DSLR.

My current intention with the RX100 II is to bring it as my dive camera on non-dedicated dive trips (trips with 2-4 dives in a week) where I can easily pack the whole rig AND still have room in my suitcase for clothes.

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Yep, a bit of the same experience with the RX100. But I have to say I was suprised at the images if they were well lit at 1600ISO, they looked really good.

I don't dive that much to warrant myself with an underwater gear kit for my m43 camera's, just a bit to expensive, so I'll have to do it with the rx100.

Just some more whalesharks

Some of them were huge!

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I know what you mean about the expense.   In my case I was at the point where I had wanted my DSLR underwater for almost 10 years, and if I didn't get one, it would never happen.   I spent about $10,000 on the housing, ports, strobes, finder, focus light, arms, etc.   Plus camera and lenses.   And I don't dive that much - only one dive trip this year.  Only 29 dives total with the rig in a year.   I sure do like using it though, and I love the images I get.

The housing almost seems affordable, now that I have it and the various accessories.   It's about 1/4 the cost of the whole rig, which makes it sort of affordable to replace if I get another camera.   I can re-use 3/4 of the gear on a different housing, as long as I stay with Nauticam.

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