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How sharp is the Canon 85mm f1.8 wide open?

Started Oct 1, 2016 | Questions
thomascantwell Forum Member • Posts: 53
Re: How sharp is the Canon 85mm f1.8 wide open?

When I got my 85 1.8 I went to B&H and compared three used copies of the lens on a 6D. One of the copies had noticeably less purple fringing (the only IQ metric that's easy to test in store) so I got that one. It's incredibly  sharp stopped down (like cut your eyeballs sharp), and it's lovely wide open too. I think with this lens and the 100 f2 there's quite a bit of copy variation so if possible I suggest going to a store where you can compare multiple used copies.

Timbukto Veteran Member • Posts: 4,988
Re: How sharp is the Canon 85mm f1.8 wide open?

thomascantwell wrote:

When I got my 85 1.8 I went to B&H and compared three used copies of the lens on a 6D. One of the copies had noticeably less purple fringing (the only IQ metric that's easy to test in store) so I got that one. It's incredibly sharp stopped down (like cut your eyeballs sharp), and it's lovely wide open too. I think with this lens and the 100 f2 there's quite a bit of copy variation so if possible I suggest going to a store where you can compare multiple used copies.

Best advice so far. Yes according to LensRentals and my own experience it has a lot of copy variation. I have an excellent copy of a Nikon 85 1.4. But my copy of the best Canon 85mm 1.8 is still something I envy it was that nice.  The purple and green fringing on the Nikon is actually worse than a good copy of the Canon and the hue range of any purple fringing is very particular and narrow while Nikon's purple fringing hue covers a wider range and more pixel widths. Those that use Lightroom defringer knows which is better in the end to fix.

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Jonathan Brady
Jonathan Brady Veteran Member • Posts: 6,725
Near MFD samples shot on 5D Mark IV

Thought I'd see if I could help.  These are straight out of camera jpg images - sharpness set to 3, standard picture style, auto (ambience priority) picture style, in-camera NR turned off (some assert there's still NR occurring, I have no idea), DLO is NOT turned on but improvements are made if it is, especially in fine detail like fur/eyelashes.

Maya is a great subject to check for purple fringing as she has stark white bordered by dark black.  You can see purple in these images (I've done nothing to correct it in camera).

Hope this helps.

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A few more from 12' away - samples shot on 5D Mark IV

Same setup, only 12 feet away this time

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jitteringjr Veteran Member • Posts: 3,608
Re: How sharp is the Canon 85mm f1.8 wide open?

My 85/1.8 sees a nice jump in image quality stopping down to 2.0-2.2 so I don't shoot it wide open unless ISO needs to be too high for my preferences.

Has anyone upgraded the 85/1.8 to the Tammy 85 VC?  What are your thoughts?

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Re: A few more from 12' away - samples shot on 5D Mark IV

Jonathan Brady wrote:

Same setup, only 12 feet away this time

Thank you for the samples. Beautiful dog. Your results are only a bit less sharp than I'm used to but some of the best I've seen for the 85mm and very usable. That's also compared to two $1,000+ lenses so very impressive for the price.

It appears copy variation could be a major factor here as these seem sharper than many other Canon 85mm shots I've seen wide open. Or the DOF could be so thin that many shots I've seen are OOF. As someone else stated this lens does seem to sharpen up some significantly at f2-f2.5. Is this also your experience?

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Re: A few more from 12' away - samples shot on 5D Mark IV

SonyArtisan wrote:

Jonathan Brady wrote:

Same setup, only 12 feet away this time

Thank you for the samples. Beautiful dog.

You're welcome, and thank you!

Your results are only a bit less sharp than I'm used to but some of the best I've seen for the 85mm and very usable. That's also compared to two $1,000+ lenses so very impressive for the price.

It appears copy variation could be a major factor here as these seem sharper than many other Canon 85mm shots I've seen wide open.

I can't imagine that it makes a ton of difference but the additional pixel density of the 5D Mark 4 could be helping just a little. I'm also shooting at ISO 100 so depending on the samples you were looking at that could make a difference as well.

Or the DOF could be so thin that many shots I've seen are OOF. As someone else stated this lens does seem to sharpen up some significantly at f2-f2.5. Is this also your experience?

I would ABSOLUTELY agree with that. f/2.8 is crazy-sharp!

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Timbukto Veteran Member • Posts: 4,988
Re: How sharp is the Canon 85mm f1.8 wide open?
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My golden copy that I sold to a pro (I am at least comforted by the fact that someone is using to to make clients happy vs me just taking family snapshots, but boy I regret selling it).  I sold this prior to realization of the importance of sample variation.  I never found a better copy after this one and gave up trying to be honest.

And here are some from my current 85mm portrait shooter which I can't complain about -

I do find the green LoCA fringing of the Nikon to be far far more annoying than Canon.  Canon if there is an out of focus eye, it mostly just looks out of focus, while Nikon the transition zones show more color tint with green in back, magenta in front.

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