I guess I'm still having second thoughts on the lenses setup

addlightness wrote:

sellera wrote:

addlightness wrote:

sellera wrote:

addlightness wrote:

sellera wrote:

Right now, I'm torn between P15 and O17!

15/1.7

This is my sharpest prime (in my bag of 8 primes which includes 25/1.8 and 45/1.8). I chose this over 12/2 and 17/1.8 and I use it mainly on my GM1 (and occasionally on my EM1).

How does she goes with the E-M1? I known the aperture ring won't talk to the body, right?

Apologies - typo. My OMD is a EM10.

Yes, 15/1.7 aperture ring doesn't talk to the body but I'm so used to using the dial on my EM10 that I don't think about the ring whenever I pick up my EM10. That plus the 15/1.7 lives on my GM1 almost all the time.

She's a little more expensive, too, right?

I bought mine from an amazon/hongkong seller for less than $400.

WOW - nice price tag. I wish I could find a deal like that.

Most ebay sellers ships worldwide. How do you deal with custom taxes, if any? If there is none, then it's worth scouting ebay or amazon's international sellers but a word of caution there especially new sellers.

Our customs taxes 85-90% on everything we buy above 50 USD. Can you imagine that?

It was my most used lens during my recent 4-week summer vacation in Asia.

I bet the wider ones are always most used, indeed!

On that trip, I also have my 9-18mm and P14/2.5 + wide converter. But I chose the 15/1.7 because it's really that good and would only revert to the 9-18 or 14/2.5+wide when there is not enough room to zoom with my feet.

I know the feeling - the love for the lens identity when shooting. I had that with my Pentax.

On a similar note, I would recommend the O40-150 R - I use it more than my 75-300 II because I find the 40-150 much more useful. The 75-300 only comes along when I need the 300mm end which is not very often.

But the aperture on the equivalent focal lengths are about the same, right?

I was referring more to the useable focal lengths, not so much of apertures as both are slow lenses which doesn't bother me as I only use them outdoors under good lighting.

Yes, I understood you, and I have to agree -- maybe I won't use the end (300--> 600) so much, as I don't  use the Nikkor 300 (450) that much, too. Maybe you're right.

TY!

LS

3dwag wrote:

I just looked, I can't find it either.

No, my phone is not jail broken. I bought this at least a few years ago, I suspect that it is no longer supported by the developer so it doesn't show up in App Store anymore, but still works with iOS 9.

Here is the splash screen, don't know if that helps - there are no links on it, so this screenshot gives you the same as I can see:

I guess it has been discontinued -- a shame, it looked like an awesome app!

Splash screen for "LensEx", a.k.a. "Lens Exchange", no longer available in Apple App Store.

Thanks, I'll keep searching in other countries appstores.

LS

BruceRH wrote:

Great advice but I believe the OP is asking because he is taking a trip to the USA for the specific purpose of buying his kit. Apparently it is too expensive in his home country of Brazil. That's why he is agonizing over his decision since her can't just run back to the store or order something else latter.

Exactly, Bruce. Despite of Brazilian Oly offers international guarantee for gear bought overseas, she doesn't sell neither cameras nor lenses here

To the OP, unless you have a specific need for the 75-300mm, I still recommend the 14-150 MK II over that one. The 14-150 is a great all purpose, walk around lens. It is lite, about the same size as the 12-40 Pro, and also weather resistant long with being sharp. If you want a long reach lens, save your money for the Panasonic 100-400mm and buy that later. The 75-300 is good, but the 14-150 is used more for me at least.

Thank you again. I was thinking about the Oly Travel Kit (14-150 II + 17mm 1.8 + hoods + bags) for 700, more than 100 USD cheaper than buying both lens alone, but I'm worried -- as usual -- about overlapping with the 12-40 PRO. Should I ditch the PRO and keep only the travel kit?

I guess I'll take your word for the long zoom, indeed, and save for the 100-400 or even a new longer lens - who knows

TY!

LS

Impulses wrote:

Yeah, generally I'd agree with Marty's advice, it's what I did... But the OP's situation is unique. I often complain about not having ANY camera stores where I live but I should consider myself lucky everything is still one UPS delivery away from Amazon or B&H, or a slow boat ride away via eBay seller at worst.

Thank you, Impulses.

Just for the sake of the argument, don't take my word for it, check out the Brazilian Canon Store price for the T6i:

1 USD = R$ 3,30 - Final Price: US$ 1.364,00!

Now, check out Brazilian Nikon Store price for the D7200:

1 USD = R$ 3,30 - Final Price: US$ 2.000,00!

Neither Olympus , nor Panasonic sell cameras or lenses officially.

Now you understand my angst!

LS

peppermonkey wrote:

sellera wrote:

peppermonkey wrote:

If you 'Must' have a 35mm equivalent lens, then go with the Oly 17mm 1.8. It's a fine lens. Actually, there isn't really any dud lenses in m43 land. Sure, there are ones that are worse than others, like the other Oly 17mm 2.8 but even that one can and does produce great images (I have one).

It's not that I MUST have, it's more I'm USED to shoot (film) with a 35 for 20+ years.

ahh, well, if you can adapt to using the 15mm it would probably be worth it. If you can't, or more importantly, you don't want to, the Oly 17mm is certainly a fine lens.

Today, I talked to Brazilian Panasonic concerning worldwide warranty, and their rep said they can't guarantee I wont be charged, if if I bought the lens or body officially (BH, Amazon, etc), so I guess I'll stick to the Oly 17!

With that said, the Pan Leica 15mm, from what I have read is a better lens optically. On the top of the list of lenses I want. No real negatives that I can see.

Yes, you guys seem to love this beautiful lady, I'm afraid I will fall for her, too!

TY!

LS

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Date the body, marry the lenses.

Already fallen for her, but like many things in life, can't have...yet

Yes, tell me about it, mate!

TY!

LS

sellera wrote:

Impulses wrote:

http://m.ebay.com/itm/NEW-BOXED-PANASONIC-LEICA-DG-SUMMILUX-15mm-F1-7-ASPH-LENS-SILVER-4-GX7-GM1-G6-/401161109492

Not quite $400, but $440 seems to be about the lowest it's going for on eBay right now...

Coincidentally, that's the seller that I got my GM1 from (he's in Taiwan), good seller. He slipped in the English manual on a CD-R and switched it over to English before shipping it, as well as including a cable for using the charger in US outlets. I gotta imagine that's more than most would do.

Very thoughtful seller - I once bought some usb 3 - 2 conversors from ebay and the seller sent me Chinese instructions!

Obviously not much of a concern with a lens, but it shows the guy is rigorous at least. That being said, I'm not sure I'd forsake the warranty and go grey market solely to save 'just' $100-ish... Unless you really want it in silver, which isn't available in many markets (like the US).

As Batman said - "does it come in black?"

Dunno what the situation is as far as eBay sellers shipping to your location... Brazil was it?

They ship directly through our postal service (correios), but it's a lottery - I may or may be not be taxed, unfortunately.

TY!

LS

Ah, bummer on that roulette, the USPS pretty much doesn't care, it's never taxed coming in (it's correo in Spanish btw, so similar, I can almost make out half of what the locals are saying while watching the Olympics heh)... Private carriers do care, FedEx/UPS/etc will bill us but Asian sellers pretty much never use those.

sellera wrote:

Impulses wrote:

Yeah, generally I'd agree with Marty's advice, it's what I did... But the OP's situation is unique. I often complain about not having ANY camera stores where I live but I should consider myself lucky everything is still one UPS delivery away from Amazon or B&H, or a slow boat ride away via eBay seller at worst.

Thank you, Impulses.

Just for the sake of the argument, don't take my word for it, check out the Brazilian Canon Store price for the T6i:

1 USD = R$ 3,30 - Final Price: US$ 1.364,00!

Now, check out Brazilian Nikon Store price for the D7200:

1 USD = R$ 3,30 - Final Price: US$ 2.000,00!

Neither Olympus , nor Panasonic sell cameras or lenses officially.

Now you understand my angst!

LS

Yikes!

sellera wrote:

BruceRH wrote:

Great advice but I believe the OP is asking because he is taking a trip to the USA for the specific purpose of buying his kit. Apparently it is too expensive in his home country of Brazil. That's why he is agonizing over his decision since her can't just run back to the store or order something else latter.

Exactly, Bruce. Despite of Brazilian Oly offers international guarantee for gear bought overseas, she doesn't sell neither cameras nor lenses here

To the OP, unless you have a specific need for the 75-300mm, I still recommend the 14-150 MK II over that one. The 14-150 is a great all purpose, walk around lens. It is lite, about the same size as the 12-40 Pro, and also weather resistant long with being sharp. If you want a long reach lens, save your money for the Panasonic 100-400mm and buy that later. The 75-300 is good, but the 14-150 is used more for me at least.

Thank you again. I was thinking about the Oly Travel Kit (14-150 II + 17mm 1.8 + hoods + bags) for 700, more than 100 USD cheaper than buying both lens alone, but I'm worried -- as usual -- about overlapping with the 12-40 PRO. Should I ditch the PRO and keep only the travel kit?

I guess I'll take your word for the long zoom, indeed, and save for the 100-400 or even a new longer lens - who knows

TY!

LS

The 12-40 + 75-300 vs the 14-150 is really a personal choice. When you are in the US, hopefully you can compare them side by side? For me, I use the 14-150 II more than the 12-40 and 75-300. The 14-150 II is just a great lens IMO. I think combined with a fast prime(OLY 17mm) for indoors and you will have your bases covered. You could even look at the 9-18 to go with it for a very nice, light weight kit. Don't get me wrong, the 12-40 Pro is an outstanding lens, and fairly fast at 2.8. It just comes down to money and what focal lengths you want covered. I would not get hung up on overlapping focal lengths. The 12-40 or the 14-150 is really for a specific need as is the 17mm prime. I have the Voightlander Noctons specifically for night use even though they overlap many of my lenses. And yes, I highly recommend the PL 100-400, it is an excellent lens and well worth saving your money for.

sellera wrote:

peppermonkey wrote:

sellera wrote:

peppermonkey wrote:

If you 'Must' have a 35mm equivalent lens, then go with the Oly 17mm 1.8. It's a fine lens. Actually, there isn't really any dud lenses in m43 land. Sure, there are ones that are worse than others, like the other Oly 17mm 2.8 but even that one can and does produce great images (I have one).

It's not that I MUST have, it's more I'm USED to shoot (film) with a 35 for 20+ years.

ahh, well, if you can adapt to using the 15mm it would probably be worth it. If you can't, or more importantly, you don't want to, the Oly 17mm is certainly a fine lens.

Today, I talked to Brazilian Panasonic concerning worldwide warranty, and their rep said they can't guarantee I wont be charged, if if I bought the lens or body officially (BH, Amazon, etc), so I guess I'll stick to the Oly 17!

Really? I can't understand why they can't "guarantee" whether they would uphold the warranty or not. They should "know" which way it would fly. That makes no real sense. It should be a simple yes or no answer, not a, for all practical purposes, an "I don't know". You may want to call again (and talk to another person) or call B&H themselves.

I'm presuming that when you say "stick to the Oly 17", that means you can get it cheapest locally? Well, in any case, a good lens so I doubt you would be disappointed

sellera wrote:

haslo wrote:

LMNCT wrote:

There is also the 12mm f2 Olympus, but I have no first hand experience with it. If you are shooting in really cramped interiors, that may be a consideration.

I own both the 12-40mm f/2.8 and the 12mm f/2, and I never have both with me at the same time. There are situations where I prefer the prime (faster, smaller), other situations where I prefer the zoom (more flexible, weather sealed), but carrying both at the same time is unnecessary. And as a consequence, buying both as part of a three lens setup is unnecessary, too, I think.

Me too!

I do like the Olympus 17mm f/1.8 a lot. It's not the sharpest lens there is, and yet it does outresolve the sensor (but not high-res shots of the E-M5ii) in my experience. Handling and size are great; I often use that one indoors or for family and street shooting.

I've shot film for a lot of time before migrate to digital (Nikon DX body), and my prime of choice was the 35mm -- that's why my first choice was the 17mm 1.8!

LS

The 17mm is not a similar focal length to the 35mm on DX. A 25mm would be closer.

rsmithgi wrote:

sellera wrote:

haslo wrote:

LMNCT wrote:

There is also the 12mm f2 Olympus, but I have no first hand experience with it. If you are shooting in really cramped interiors, that may be a consideration.

I own both the 12-40mm f/2.8 and the 12mm f/2, and I never have both with me at the same time. There are situations where I prefer the prime (faster, smaller), other situations where I prefer the zoom (more flexible, weather sealed), but carrying both at the same time is unnecessary. And as a consequence, buying both as part of a three lens setup is unnecessary, too, I think.

Me too!

I do like the Olympus 17mm f/1.8 a lot. It's not the sharpest lens there is, and yet it does outresolve the sensor (but not high-res shots of the E-M5ii) in my experience. Handling and size are great; I often use that one indoors or for family and street shooting.

I've shot film for a lot of time before migrate to digital (Nikon DX body), and my prime of choice was the 35mm -- that's why my first choice was the 17mm 1.8!

LS

The 17mm is not a similar focal length to the 35mm on DX. A 25mm would be closer.

I'm presuming he meant his prime of choice was 35mm while using film cameras as opposed to 35mm with the Nikon DX format?

To the OP, if you mean 35mm in film, then yes, 17mm is the closest. If you meant 35mm prime was the prime of choice with the Nikon DX format, than rsmithgi is correct and what you should be looking at are the various 25mm lenses.

Impulses wrote:

Ah, bummer on that roulette, the USPS pretty much doesn't care, it's never taxed coming in (it's correo in Spanish btw, so similar, I can almost make out half of what the locals are saying while watching the Olympics heh)... Private carriers do care, FedEx/UPS/etc will bill us but Asian sellers pretty much never use those.

Yeah, I guess I can say our government is a very hungry one.

Years ago, only carriers were automatically taxed too, but nowadays almost every package is.

TY!

LS

BruceRH wrote:

The 12-40 + 75-300 vs the 14-150 is really a personal choice. When you are in the US, hopefully you can compare them side by side?

I guess I won't have time for it, I'll have all gear delivered to my hotel, so I can start shooting the day I arrive!

For me, I use the 14-150 II more than the 12-40 and 75-300. The 14-150 II is just a great lens IMO. I think combined with a fast prime(OLY 17mm) for indoors and you will have your bases covered.

Yes, the Olympus Travel Kit has the 14-150 II + 17mm 1.8 + Hoods + pouches for 800 USD. I guess it's a fair price, specially now that the 40-150 rose to 200 USD again.

You could even look at the 9-18 to go with it for a very nice, light weight kit.

She's so small! I've never noticed this lens before! How's the IQ?

Don't get me wrong, the 12-40 Pro is an outstanding lens, and fairly fast at 2.8. It just comes down to money and what focal lengths you want covered.

Thanks, I don't get you wrong, don't worry! I'm having second thoughts based on all your opinions. Maybe the 14-150 + 2 primes, 17 and 45?

I would not get hung up on overlapping focal lengths. The 12-40 or the 14-150 is really for a specific need as is the 17mm prime.

Yes, there are more to consider beyond the numbers!

I have the Voightlander Noctons specifically for night use even though they overlap many of my lenses. And yes, I highly recommend the PL 100-400, it is an excellent lens and well worth saving your money for.

TY again for your patience, Bruce,

LS

MatLD wrote:

Hum... difficult decision to buy everything in one shot.

Tell me about it. I almost drop it all and got myself a D500, so I can use my lenses.

I can give you my point of view : get a normal fast lens. The 17f1.8 is not that bad, it just faces strong competition. I take 70% of my pictures with the 25f1.4 so I would suggest you to go for that one if you think you will like the focal length. It is a perfect focal length for street shooting and half body shots, but of course a matter of personal preference.

Thanks, by my experience shooting film, the 17mm is the one, but the last 4 years I shot a 35mm in a D5200, 52.5 eq. So, either way I'm good, but I prefer the former!

You could also get the 25 f1.8or 25 f1.7 which are cheaper.

25 1.7? Which one? I still got a lot to learn.

The 45f1.8 ? If you like headshot portraits go for it. I wouldn't use it as my main street shooting lens. I use mine a lot when I just take 2 primes with me.

My thoughts exactly -- to narrow for street, right?

12-40 f2.8, yes if you want a normal zoom.

An everyday lens?

75-300 : hum... the price increase from the 45-150 f4-f5.6 is quite steep but if you want a huge reach at the cost of slow aperture, maybe. I would like to have it to play around but find it too expensive just to play around.

Yes, I guess she'll be dropped, I'll stick to the 40-150 R

Fyi this is my kit :

9-18f4 (4/3)

14f2.5

25f1.4

45f1.8

40-150f4 (4/3)

A very respectable one. Is the 25 1.4 the most used?

TY!

LS

peppermonkey wrote:

Really? I can't understand why they can't "guarantee" whether they would uphold the warranty or not. They should "know" which way it would fly. That makes no real sense. It should be a simple yes or no answer, not a, for all practical purposes, an "I don't know".

Nikon said almost the same thing when I brought my 35mm 1.8G from US, 4 years ago: "We fix it, but you have to pay for it, even during the warranty period".

You may want to call again (and talk to another person) or call B&H themselves.

I did it, another employee said the same thing: if they don't sell it here, they're are not obliged.

I'm presuming that when you say "stick to the Oly 17", that means you can get it cheapest locally? Well, in any case, a good lens so I doubt you would be disappointed

Yes, and the warranty offered by Oly is worldwide, so if anything goes wrong, they'll deal with it -- free of charge.

TY!
LS

rsmithgi wrote:

The 17mm is not a similar focal length to the 35mm on DX. A 25mm would be closer.

I know, sorry for my broken english, I was talking about my shooting prior to the D5200: a Pentax 35mm 2.4 and a Pentax 50mm 1.4.

LS