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The 35mm Q - worth having both 35L and 16-35L?

Started Aug 14, 2016 | Discussions
maiaibing Veteran Member • Posts: 5,139
The 35mm Q - worth having both 35L and 16-35L?

OK, so I had the old 35L and it was one of my most used lenses.

However, I sold it and got the 16-35mm f/4 IS L while waiting for the 35L to be upgraded to the 35L II.

The zoom is a very nice lens and I like it a lot. But it can of course not give me the look and feel of a 35mm f/1.4 lens.

So is anyone using both or is it just one 35mm too many?

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diness Veteran Member • Posts: 3,758
Re: The 35mm Q - worth having both 35L and 16-35L?

maiaibing wrote:

OK, so I had the old 35L and it was one of my most used lenses.

However, I sold it and got the 16-35mm f/4 IS L while waiting for the 35L to be upgraded to the 35L II.

The zoom is a very nice lens and I like it a lot. But it can of course not give me the look and feel of a 35mm f/1.4 lens.

So is anyone using both or is it just one 35mm too many?

I don't own them both, but if I did, it would be for very different purposes.  F1.4 is a LOT bigger than f4.  That's 3 stops of DOF control that, as you said, gives you a very different look.  Here's a question, do you miss your 35L?  If you do, there's your answer!

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MingTzu Regular Member • Posts: 290
Re: The 35mm Q - worth having both 35L and 16-35L?

I am sort of in the same boat, except that I know that I want the 35L II when it becomes available at a good price.  Already have the 16-35 f/4.  Like the other poster said, different lenses for different purposes.  I plan on using the 35L for my low-light event photography and other similar type events.  The 16-35 f4 is for landscape and non-moving objects.

The dilemma I am facing is whether I should get the 16-35 f/2.8 as well.  It would be nice to have a zoom in this range for the versatility, but it might be lower on the priority list.

To answer your question, I don't think it's too crazy to have both the 35L and 16-35.  Two different lenses for two different purposes.

Kaso Veteran Member • Posts: 4,488
Re: The 35mm Q - worth having both 35L and 16-35L?
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maiaibing wrote:

got the 16-35mm f/4 IS L while waiting for . . . the 35L II

They are two different lenses designed for different applications.

Worth having both? Only you can decide based on your own preferences/priorities.

I would buy a 16-300mm and "have all focal lengths covered" -- but I don't do that. On the other hand, I use a 70-200/2.8L IS II USM, and also a 135/2L and a 100/2.8L Macro.

Rexgig0
Rexgig0 Veteran Member • Posts: 7,399
I plan to have both 35L II and 16-35L IS.

Generally, very few zoom lenses are at their strongest at either end of the zoom range, so having a prime lens that matches the focal length at either end of the zoom's range is not, in my opinion, excessive duplication. Moreover, good primes will be more useful in lower light.

Buying my 5Ds R in January 2016, I figured I would upgrade some lenses. I traded my 35L, while planning to eventually add a 35L II. Part of the long-range strategy was to acquire a 35IS, because I see the 35IS and 35L II as being distinctly different lenses, suited to differing roles. I soon bought the 35IS, and really do like it. I will admit that there are moments I really do regret trading my 35L.

Then, a friend, who works at a local camera store, tempted me to try a Nikkor 35/1.4G on my D3s. Pixel-peepers love to hate this lens, but the overall image is more important to me, and this lens has become a favorite on my D3s, this combination now being my "weapon of choice" in very low light. Buying this 35/1.4G has certainly delayed my acquisition of  35L II, but perhaps in 2017 or 2018, I can justify adding a 35L II, to use on my 5Ds R. I use my D3s and 5Ds R for completely different types of shooting.

I traded my 16-35/2.8L II, toward the above-mention 35/1.4G, with the intention of eventually adding a 16-35/4L, or perhaps the rumored 16-35/2.8L III. There is no hurry, for the UWA, as I also shoot 7D and 7D Mark II cameras, and my EF-S 10-22mm is really quite good; so good, that I sometimes question my real need for a 16-35mm lens to use on "full-frame" cameras. The 16-35L IS, obviously, has better environmental sealing than any EF-S lens, so a future trip to a dusty area may be what finally prompts me to add a 16-35L IS.

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J A C S
J A C S Forum Pro • Posts: 20,544
Re: The 35mm Q - worth having both 35L and 16-35L?

I own both, very different.

M H S
M H S Contributing Member • Posts: 748
Re: The 35mm Q - worth having both 35L and 16-35L?

maiaibing wrote:

OK, so I had the old 35L and it was one of my most used lenses.

However, I sold it and got the 16-35mm f/4 IS L while waiting for the 35L to be upgraded to the 35L II.

The zoom is a very nice lens and I like it a lot. But it can of course not give me the look and feel of a 35mm f/1.4 lens.

So is anyone using both or is it just one 35mm too many?

I have the 16-35 and the 35 f is. that's a reasonable compromise, at a much H lower price. I'd love to have the L, but couldn't justify the cost for the reasons you allude to.

the f2 is a very nice lens, btw.

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ffabrici Senior Member • Posts: 1,353
Re: The 35mm Q - worth having both 35L and 16-35L?

Maiaibing,

I would say; yes if you can afford it. They serve very different purposes and the 35L ll will enable your limited dof shooting like your 300mm 2.8. My preferred primes are 35L ll, 135L and 300 2.8 ll and using them wide open if possible.

arty H Senior Member • Posts: 1,546
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The zoom and 35 mm prime are very different. You can't have too many 35 mm primes! I have 3.

Yee Jek New Member • Posts: 10
Re: The 35mm Q - worth having both 35L and 16-35L?

Hi, I have both of these lenses.  The 35mm f1.4L is my most use lens and it stays on my 5D II most of the time.  Whenever I am out with my other lens or lenses like the 16-35mm f4, I still bring the 35mm.  Even though I don't use the 16-35mm as much, it is such a sharp and versatile lens I would not want to sell it.   Similarly, I would not sell my other lenses either because like the 16-35mm, they all serve a special need in my photography whether that be local length or style.  I am referring to my 135mm f2L, 100mm f2.8 and 40mm f2.8 STM.

Hope that helps.

Ryanide
Ryanide Contributing Member • Posts: 854
Re: The 35mm Q - worth having both 35L and 16-35L?

The 35mm 1.4L II is incredibly sharp and hands down a huge improvement in image quality over the previous version and over any zoom for sure.  Don't take my word, DPReview has done a comparison testing, as others online too, that really shows this is one of Canon's best.

Of course, that comes with a high price tag, but I would say it is worth it.

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