Newbie saying hello

Marty4650 wrote:

The NX3000 is an exceptionally good camera. And you got a brand new one for a very good price. The NX1000 was OK, in it's day, but you are much better off with the NX3000 and an NX kit lens.

Now.... unless you plan to start collecting NX cameras sell off the NX1000 and any Canon legacy lenses and adapters you have. Just get rid of the stuff.

You should have learned something from your NX1000 plus old Canon lens experience. A "newbie" shouldn't be searching for a real challenge, like using mismatched lenses and bodies, and be forced to shoot in manual modes.

All of that will come later, but right now you should be enjoying all the automation that your NX3000 will give you.

I really think you made a good decision with the NX3000. Now, be patient and wait for some nice NX lenses to come on the used market. Since the entire system has been discontinued, you might find some great lenses at very good prices in the future.

And some of those NX lenses are really wonderful.

Hi Marty and for your tip.

I am going to sell on the NX1000 body definitely. It is the best camera I've owned by a country mile but the NX 3000 has much better reviews. I am going to keep the lens because it's in seriously good condition and it hasn't cost me a lot. I've improved already today by just practising around the house with familiar objects. I will however be watching for NX lenses. It's always been an ambition of mine to take a really good photo of the moon so I want to get my eye in learn the hard way first. Also manual lenses are way cheaper haha.

Oliver.

VisionLight wrote:

Bigman80 wrote:

i'll download the manual, thanks for that.

any idea what im doing wrong outside ?

If you remember or wrote down the exposure settings to a particular image (I'm assuming your use of the first camera manually is not coming out well), post the image. Tell us as much about the ambient light as you remember. We may be better able to help you figure out the problem.

Ed

Hi Ed

Ok, I didn't record any settings so I'll take a fresh set and make some notes. I'll post as soon as they're done !

Oliver.

Kisaha wrote:

Bigman80 wrote:

Marty4650 wrote:

The NX3000 is an exceptionally good camera. And you got a brand new one for a very good price. The NX1000 was OK, in it's day, but you are much better off with the NX3000 and an NX kit lens.

Now.... unless you plan to start collecting NX cameras sell off the NX1000 and any Canon legacy lenses and adapters you have. Just get rid of the stuff.

You should have learned something from your NX1000 plus old Canon lens experience. A "newbie" shouldn't be searching for a real challenge, like using mismatched lenses and bodies, and be forced to shoot in manual modes.

All of that will come later, but right now you should be enjoying all the automation that your NX3000 will give you.

I really think you made a good decision with the NX3000. Now, be patient and wait for some nice NX lenses to come on the used market. Since the entire system has been discontinued, you might find some great lenses at very good prices in the future.

And some of those NX lenses are really wonderful.

Hi Marty and for your tip.

I am going to sell on the NX1000 body definitely. It is the best camera I've owned by a country mile but the NX 3000 has much better reviews. I am going to keep the lens because it's in seriously good condition and it hasn't cost me a lot. I've improved already today by just practising around the house with familiar objects. I will however be watching for NX lenses. It's always been an ambition of mine to take a really good photo of the moon so I want to get my eye in learn the hard way first. Also manual lenses are way cheaper haha.

Oliver.

It's alright, keep the adapter and the old lens you got, but first take a lot of pictures on AUTO, while you do that, read some articles, and/or the first chapters of the aforementioned manual (it explains very well the basic concepts and variables of photography).

In the film days, I was writing down everything, so when I was taking back the printed photos, to know what I had done right (or wrong), now all these information are in your digital phots (EXIF).

Thats a good idea. I dont think you really know how skilled people are until you try and do what they do. The guys using legacy lenses make it look easy when its anything but !

Bigman80 wrote:

VisionLight wrote:

Bigman80 wrote:

i'll download the manual, thanks for that.

any idea what im doing wrong outside ?

If you remember or wrote down the exposure settings to a particular image (I'm assuming your use of the first camera manually is not coming out well), post the image. Tell us as much about the ambient light as you remember. We may be better able to help you figure out the problem.

Hi Ed

Ok, I didn't record any settings so I'll take a fresh set and make some notes. I'll post as soon as they're done !

Oliver.

I thought of another idea that you may find helpful. You have two cameras now, one manual that you are learning to use, and one that is automatic. Use both of them together, taking an image with the manual camera in Aperture Priority first, since this one's aperture is fixed wide open and only the shutter speed and ISO can be controlled. Note the shutter speed and ISO used and whether you liked the results or not. Then set the automatic camera to Aperture Priority and set the aperture to the same  value as the wide open manual lens. Set the ISO to the same value used on the manual camera as well. Take the same picture (do the settings on both cameras first before taking the pictures so that the light dose not change in between). Now compare the results. If the second image is better, note any changes that were made in the exposure vs the manual lens camera. Doing this a number of times in different lighting situations will help you learn the "personality" of the first camera in making adjustments to the exposure (including EC adjustments) that will get you the results you want.

As to focus differences, without having the camera and knowing its manual focus aids, I can not be a lot of technical help. But I can offer a manual focus tip. We visually perceive focus as high contrast between neighboring tones rather than actually seeing the sharpness (which is more apparent in pixel peeping). When looking at the screen while manually focusing, watch as different areas of the subject appear to increase in contrast. That is most likely the point of focus.

Automatic cameras are great, but there is a lot to learn in using a camera manually. With enough practice, you will soon be able to combine the benefits of both in capturing the light exactly as your eye perceives it, rather then depending entirely on the average exposure a computer program chooses. The SOOC image comes out better needing less or no post, and your satisfaction with your craft increases no matter which camera you have in your hands. It is a worthwhile endeavor for anyone wishing to up their photographic ability. Those of us who have been photographing for 50 years or more remember when manual was the only game in town. So we were "lucky" enough to get in a lot of practice before automatic cameras of any kind became the general rule.

Ed

VisionLight wrote:

Bigman80 wrote:

VisionLight wrote:

Bigman80 wrote:

i'll download the manual, thanks for that.

any idea what im doing wrong outside ?

If you remember or wrote down the exposure settings to a particular image (I'm assuming your use of the first camera manually is not coming out well), post the image. Tell us as much about the ambient light as you remember. We may be better able to help you figure out the problem.

Hi Ed

Ok, I didn't record any settings so I'll take a fresh set and make some notes. I'll post as soon as they're done !

Oliver.

I thought of another idea that you may find helpful. You have two cameras now, one manual that you are learning to use, and one that is automatic. Use both of them together, taking an image with the manual camera in Aperture Priority first, since this one's aperture is fixed wide open and only the shutter speed and ISO can be controlled. Note the shutter speed and ISO used and whether you liked the results or not. Then set the automatic camera to Aperture Priority and set the aperture to the same value as the wide open manual lens. Set the ISO to the same value used on the manual camera as well. Take the same picture (do the settings on both cameras first before taking the pictures so that the light dose not change in between). Now compare the results. If the second image is better, note any changes that were made in the exposure vs the manual lens camera. Doing this a number of times in different lighting situations will help you learn the "personality" of the first camera in making adjustments to the exposure (including EC adjustments) that will get you the results you want.

As to focus differences, without having the camera and knowing its manual focus aids, I can not be a lot of technical help. But I can offer a manual focus tip. We visually perceive focus as high contrast between neighboring tones rather than actually seeing the sharpness (which is more apparent in pixel peeping). When looking at the screen while manually focusing, watch as different areas of the subject appear to increase in contrast. That is most likely the point of focus.

Automatic cameras are great, but there is a lot to learn in using a camera manually. With enough practice, you will soon be able to combine the benefits of both in capturing the light exactly as your eye perceives it, rather then depending entirely on the average exposure a computer program chooses. The SOOC image comes out better needing less or no post, and your satisfaction with your craft increases no matter which camera you have in your hands. It is a worthwhile endeavor for anyone wishing to up their photographic ability. Those of us who have been photographing for 50 years or more remember when manual was the only game in town. So we were "lucky" enough to get in a lot of practice before automatic cameras of any kind became the general rule.

Ed

Excellent advice.  I did some more photos today and paid more attention to what I'm doing. My results were a lot better. I also realised I can set the camera to magnify the screen to fine tune the focus before I take a shot.   Thatsade the biggest difference. Also got the tripod out and used it to do a couple of shots for aperture testing. I realised switching  to manual meant I had greater control over light etc so I'll be experimenting again tomorrow

I was a newbie when I was undertaking use of an EF 75-300 on an NX300. It wasn't easy. The Canon FD 50mm f/1.8 is a pleasure to use, though mine has resided with family since I upgraded to the FD 50 f/1.4. The magnification makes it quite easy to shoot with on NX, and at ISO 800 it is has acceptable shutter speeds even in dim indoor lighting. The shallow depth of field may make it difficult indoors for the OP though since it seems he is shooting moving subjects. Outdoors or in better light putting the aperture to f/5.6 or f/8 makes for a sharper shot with less vignetting, but less bokeh. That deeper DOF will make it better for moving subjects. I would never recommend selling the 50 f/1.8, it's too good of a lens to part with for the low cost. Even of the OP isn't ready for it now he can grow into it.

Sounds like you're improving fast, experimenting is important, eventually it will just be natural to you what kind of adjustment you want to make to get the results you're looking for.

ttbek wrote:

I was a newbie when I was undertaking use of an EF 75-300 on an NX300. It wasn't easy. The Canon FD 50mm f/1.8 is a pleasure to use, though mine has resided with family since I upgraded to the FD 50 f/1.4. The magnification makes it quite easy to shoot with on NX, and at ISO 800 it is has acceptable shutter speeds even in dim indoor lighting. The shallow depth of field may make it difficult indoors for the OP though since it seems he is shooting moving subjects. Outdoors or in better light putting the aperture to f/5.6 or f/8 makes for a sharper shot with less vignetting, but less bokeh. That deeper DOF will make it better for moving subjects. I would never recommend selling the 50 f/1.8, it's too good of a lens to part with for the low cost. Even of the OP isn't ready for it now he can grow into it.

Hi,.  The lens is a beauty. It's immaculate and works really well when I get it right. I've managed about 10 super sharp pics so far lol. I'm getting better though. Thanks for the tips.

Congratulations on buying the NX3000 - it's a lovely little camera, one that I'm really fond of!

You might like to join Flickr, where there's an NX3000 group. And whilst the members aren't very active, many of the photos posted are inspiring.... plus there are a few from Norwich!

https://www.flickr.com/groups/2732627@N24/

Lots of them show the various settings that the camera used, which may be helpful - although personally I tend to stick with "P" mode, with AutoISO and AutoWB, unless and until the conditions really call for intervention!

If you've not done so, turning on the "Level Gauge" might be an idea?

One of the handy things about this model is that it uses the same battery that Samsung put in some of their mobile phones, so getting a spare, and a separate charger, isn't too expensive. Look for "Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom Extra Battery Kit EB-K740AEWEGWW" on Amazon UK for the one I bought, £12.99 at present!

I've found the LCE website a good source of second-hand equipment..

http://www.lcegroup.co.uk/Secondhand-Search/

... and have bought several Samsung lenses, and a second body, from them with no problems!

Sure you'll have loads of fun, and will get some great results...

Peter

PS Just out of interest at this stage, did you camera package also include a disk for Lightroom 5 ?

Isola Verde wrote:

Congratulations on buying the NX3000 - it's a lovely little camera, one that I'm really fond of!

You might like to join Flickr, where there's an NX3000 group. And whilst the members aren't very active, many of the photos posted are inspiring.... plus there are a few from Norwich!

https://www.flickr.com/groups/2732627@N24/

Lots of them show the various settings that the camera used, which may be helpful - although personally I tend to stick with "P" mode, with AutoISO and AutoWB, unless and until the conditions really call for intervention!

If you've not done so, turning on the "Level Gauge" might be an idea?

One of the handy things about this model is that it uses the same battery that Samsung put in some of their mobile phones, so getting a spare, and a separate charger, isn't too expensive. Look for "Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom Extra Battery Kit EB-K740AEWEGWW" on Amazon UK for the one I bought, £12.99 at present!

I've found the LCE website a good source of second-hand equipment..

http://www.lcegroup.co.uk/Secondhand-Search/

... and have bought several Samsung lenses, and a second body, from them with no problems!

Sure you'll have loads of fun, and will get some great results...

Peter

PS Just out of interest at this stage, did you camera package also include a disk for Lightroom 5 ?

Thanks for that. Definitely look up the flickr page. I am waiting for the 3000 to arrive so when I've received it I'll look for the disc. Should be here tomorrow.

Bigman80 wrote:

Thanks for that. Definitely look up the flickr page. I am waiting for the 3000 to arrive so when I've received it I'll look for the disc. Should be here tomorrow.

Hope all goes well, and shall look forward to seeing your pictures on Flickr!

Peter

Isola Verde wrote:

Congratulations on buying the NX3000 - it's a lovely little camera, one that I'm really fond of!

You might like to join Flickr, where there's an NX3000 group. And whilst the members aren't very active, many of the photos posted are inspiring.... plus there are a few from Norwich!

https://www.flickr.com/groups/2732627@N24/

Lots of them show the various settings that the camera used, which may be helpful - although personally I tend to stick with "P" mode, with AutoISO and AutoWB, unless and until the conditions really call for intervention!

If you've not done so, turning on the "Level Gauge" might be an idea?

One of the handy things about this model is that it uses the same battery that Samsung put in some of their mobile phones, so getting a spare, and a separate charger, isn't too expensive. Look for "Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom Extra Battery Kit EB-K740AEWEGWW" on Amazon UK for the one I bought, £12.99 at present!

I've found the LCE website a good source of second-hand equipment..

http://www.lcegroup.co.uk/Secondhand-Search/

... and have bought several Samsung lenses, and a second body, from them with no problems!

Sure you'll have loads of fun, and will get some great results...

Peter

PS Just out of interest at this stage, did you camera package also include a disk for Lightroom 5 ?

Joined up so a soon as the camera gets here I'll start uploading anything good !!  Thanks for the link to the LCe. much browsing to do !

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Isola Verde wrote:

Bigman80 wrote:

Thanks for that. Definitely look up the flickr page. I am waiting for the 3000 to arrive so when I've received it I'll look for the disc. Should be here tomorrow.

Hope all goes well, and shall look forward to seeing your pictures on Flickr!

Peter

First hour or so with the NX3000 and im in love with the auto lens haha. Heres a link to some pics ive taken today.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/142685612@N04/?

Unfortunatly i cant get the camera to play ball with the canon lens. I'll figure it out im sure

Bigman80 wrote:

Isola Verde wrote:

Bigman80 wrote:

Thanks for that. Definitely look up the flickr page. I am waiting for the 3000 to arrive so when I've received it I'll look for the disc. Should be here tomorrow.

Hope all goes well, and shall look forward to seeing your pictures on Flickr!

Peter

First hour or so with the NX3000 and im in love with the auto lens haha. Heres a link to some pics ive taken today.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/142685612@N04/?

Unfortunatly i cant get the camera to play ball with the canon lens. I'll figure it out im sure

Trust you're pleased with those - for what's probably been a grim day with you too, they look pretty good!

Sorry can't be much help with the Canon lens and adaptor, but suggest you do a search of earlier threads here... No promises, but think I recall discussion of some whose pins or sockets didn't easily "register" with the opposite on the camera, and needed a fit of jiggling (jiggleing?) around before they'll work properly?

Good luck!

Peter

Isola Verde wrote:

Bigman80 wrote:

Isola Verde wrote:

Bigman80 wrote:

Thanks for that. Definitely look up the flickr page. I am waiting for the 3000 to arrive so when I've received it I'll look for the disc. Should be here tomorrow.

Hope all goes well, and shall look forward to seeing your pictures on Flickr!

Peter

First hour or so with the NX3000 and im in love with the auto lens haha. Heres a link to some pics ive taken today.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/142685612@N04/?

Unfortunatly i cant get the camera to play ball with the canon lens. I'll figure it out im sure

Trust you're pleased with those - for what's probably been a grim day with you too, they look pretty good!

Sorry can't be much help with the Canon lens and adaptor, but suggest you do a search of earlier threads here... No promises, but think I recall discussion of some whose pins or sockets didn't easily "register" with the opposite on the camera, and needed a fit of jiggling (jiggleing?) around before they'll work properly?

Good luck!

Peter

Hi Peter,

Yes I have to say I am pretty pleased !  It's been really surprising how different the cameras feel and I just enjoy the NX3000 more. I'll be having a play with it again tomorrow. Think I'll sell the manual lenses and just save for the other Samsung lenses !!!