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14-42 II R after having the 12-40 2.8?

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Alan Smith
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14-42 II R after having the 12-40 2.8?

I have the 12-40 2.8 which I really like on my OMD EM5, but I have to admit it is not a small combo.  (I thought it was tiny when I was moving from my Canon, but that is another story.)

I am considering the 14-42 II R for a walk around.  Any thoughts?  Are there others I should consider?   (I already have the Pany 20mm prime and the Olympus 45mm prime)

(My OMD EM5 came with a 12-50, but I never liked the lens.)

Thanks in advance,

Alan

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SpinOne Veteran Member • Posts: 4,059
Re: 14-42 II R after having the 12-40 2.8?

Alan Smith wrote:

I have the 12-40 2.8 which I really like on my OMD EM5, but I have to admit it is not a small combo. (I thought it was tiny when I was moving from my Canon, but that is another story.)

I am considering the 14-42 II R for a walk around. Any thoughts?

I happen to like that lens. The main disadvantages are that the aperture is not particularly wide, you have to stop down to get similar performance, angle of view is not as wide, and it is not weather-sealed.

None of this should be an issue if you just want a nice light lens for wandering around.

I'm sure someone will suggest the Panasonic 12-32mm, but I for one am not thrilled by that lens. It's got a little too much distortion, and I'm just not thrilled by the way it renders. YMMV.

Glen Barrington
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I like mine . . .

I think it's a fairly decent lens considering how little it costs. When I'm looking for the max in image quality, I use my 4/3 14-54 DSLR lens or one of my ancient Canon FL series lenses.

But when I'm interested in maintaining an unobtrusive profile or fast operation (or the absolute minimum in size and weight), I don't hesitate to use the OLYMPUS M.14-42mm F3.5-5.6 II R.

Robin Wong wrote an article on how to get the most out of your kit lens HERE.  Now he used the EZ version as an example, but the IIR is at least as good.

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BruceRH Veteran Member • Posts: 3,087
Re: 14-42 II R after having the 12-40 2.8?
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The Panasonic 12-32 f3.5-5.6 is well regarded but I did not like the way it extends, but that's just me. I like the Olympus 14-42 EZ. Get the Olympus LC-37C lens cap which automatically opens and closes with power up of the lens. Another great option is the Olympus 14-150 ii, it is lite weight and excellent quality and is about the same size as the 12-40 Pro but lighter.

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Alex Ethridge
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Re: 14-42 II R after having the 12-40 2.8?

Alan Smith wrote:

I have the 12-40 2.8 which I really like on my OMD EM5, but I have to admit it is not a small combo. (I thought it was tiny when I was moving from my Canon, but that is another story.)

I am considering the 14-42 II R for a walk around. Any thoughts? Are there others I should consider? (I already have the Pany 20mm prime and the Olympus 45mm prime)

(My OMD EM5 came with a 12-50, but I never liked the lens.)

Thanks in advance,

Alan

I have those same lenses among several others and the 14-42 sees little use.  Yes, it's lighter and smaller but sometimes not wide enough.  That's the most-encountered problem.  Then there is the lack of low-light capability which is sometimes a problem.

Add to the above that there is a slight IQ advantage with the 12-40mm and that leaves very little reason for the 14-42.

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BruceRH Veteran Member • Posts: 3,087
Re: 14-42 II R after having the 12-40 2.8?

BruceRH wrote:

The Panasonic 12-32 f3.5-5.6 is well regarded but I did not like the way it extends, but that's just me. I like the Olympus 14-42 EZ. Get the Olympus LC-37C lens cap which automatically opens and closes with power up of the lens. Another great option is the Olympus 14-150 ii, it is lite weight and excellent quality and is about the same size as the 12-40 Pro but lighter.

Here is a size comparison between the 14-150 and the 12-40, taken with the 14-42 EZ.

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Guy Parsons
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Plus one.

Alex Ethridge wrote:

Alan Smith wrote:

I have the 12-40 2.8 which I really like on my OMD EM5, but I have to admit it is not a small combo. (I thought it was tiny when I was moving from my Canon, but that is another story.)

I am considering the 14-42 II R for a walk around. Any thoughts? Are there others I should consider? (I already have the Pany 20mm prime and the Olympus 45mm prime)

(My OMD EM5 came with a 12-50, but I never liked the lens.)

Thanks in advance,

Alan

I have those same lenses among several others and the 14-42 sees little use. Yes, it's lighter and smaller but sometimes not wide enough. That's the most-encountered problem. Then there is the lack of low-light capability which is sometimes a problem.

Add to the above that there is a slight IQ advantage with the 12-40mm and that leaves very little reason for the 14-42.

Exactly the same here.

The range 12mm to 14mm would be sorely missed by me in a lens considered to be the normal zoom. If they would/could make a lesser aperture 12-40mm in the collapsing style or a small fixed size then I would buy that as a little kit lens and push the 14-42mm back further in the drawer of odds and ends.

If I had to buy a smaller aperture 12-?? lens then I would head for the Pana 12-60mm though there's not much saving in size over the 12-40/2.8

For me at least then 12mm is a must for a kit lens. So I stick with the chunky but o-so-nice 12-40/2.8 as my always there kit lens.

Regards....... Guy

cptobvious Contributing Member • Posts: 850
Re: 14-42 II R after having the 12-40 2.8?

I have the 12-40, 20, and 45 as well, and the 14-42 II R is only $100 or less new right now, but I won't buy it because I know I'll never use it.  When I owned it I was often wishing I had something sharper and faster on my camera. It's a never-ending cycle of indecisiveness between size/weight, speed, and optical quality. Really the two primes should cover most situations when small is desired.

NZ Scott
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12-32 vs 12-42 and 12-35

Alan Smith wrote:

I have the 12-40 2.8 which I really like on my OMD EM5, but I have to admit it is not a small combo. (I thought it was tiny when I was moving from my Canon, but that is another story.)

I am considering the 14-42 II R for a walk around. Any thoughts? Are there others I should consider? (I already have the Pany 20mm prime and the Olympus 45mm prime)

(My OMD EM5 came with a 12-50, but I never liked the lens.)

Thanks in advance,

Alan

I have three "normal" zooms - Olympus's 12-42 IIR and Panasonic's 12-32 and 12-35 f/2.8.

Of those, the 12-32 gets the most use as it's tiny (much smaller even than the 12-42 IIR) and plenty sharp.

The main disadvantage with the 12-32 is that it distorts at 12mm, but this is easily corrected in post.

You also have to "extend" the lens prior to use, but this is also the case with the 12-42 IIR.

The 12-35 f/2.8 is undoubtedly the best of the bunch but, almost as much as your 12-40, is large and heavy enough that I usually prefer to leave it at home.

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Hen3ry
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Re: 12-32 vs 12-42 and 12-35

NZ Scott wrote:

Alan Smith wrote:

I have the 12-40 2.8 which I really like on my OMD EM5, but I have to admit it is not a small combo. (I thought it was tiny when I was moving from my Canon, but that is another story.)

I am considering the 14-42 II R for a walk around. Any thoughts? Are there others I should consider? (I already have the Pany 20mm prime and the Olympus 45mm prime)

(My OMD EM5 came with a 12-50, but I never liked the lens.)

Thanks in advance,

Alan

I have three "normal" zooms - Olympus's 12-42 IIR and Panasonic's 12-32 and 12-35 f/2.8.

Of those, the 12-32 gets the most use as it's tiny (much smaller even than the 12-42 IIR) and plenty sharp.

The main disadvantage with the 12-32 is that it distorts at 12mm, but this is easily corrected in post.

You also have to "extend" the lens prior to use, but this is also the case with the 12-42 IIR.

The 12-35 f/2.8 is undoubtedly the best of the bunch but, almost as much as your 12-40, is large and heavy enough that I usually prefer to leave it at home.

I'm a 12-32 lad also for general around and about, switching to the 12-35 for "serious" stuff (and to look substantial enough to impress clients! :)).

BUT since reading a test of the Panasonic 14-42 II which recorded really stellar performance throughout the zoom range, I have a sneaking feeling I would like to have that lens in hand too. It is small and unlike the Oly counterpart, non-extending.

In reality, this is true GAS. I have always loved a good tool, and the Panny 14-42 II looks like an extra good tool. I do not know how much use I would have for it (when I was working in wood, my collection of chisels was far beyond my needs or skills).

The lens I really would use is the 12-60 -- but I am not seeing the kind of performance I want at 60 in the two reviews I have seen so far.

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Paul De Bra
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Only a pancake makes sense after the 12-40 2.8?

Way back when the Panasonic 14-42X pancake lens was the only pancake zoom lens I got that and my E-M5 with 14-42X is always in my carry-everywhere backpack. When I'm expecting to take photos that matter I bring the 12-40, but when I just want the smallest and lightest setup a pancake zoom lens is the way to go. Whether to get the 12-32, the Oly 14-42EZ or the Pana 14-42X is mostly a matter of taste.

I have the "X-Cap" automatic lens cap to turn the combo into a veritable point and shoot.

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enossified Regular Member • Posts: 440
Re: 14-42 II R after having the 12-40 2.8?

I never understood the love for the Pana 12-32 (other than size) because 32mm is just too short for me.

The thing I dislike most about the R-II is the max aperture.  I only reach for my primes when shooting in low light where 2-3 stops faster makes or breaks being able to shoot.

It would be nice if it zoomed out to 50mm, but I've learned to live with it. A bonus is that at 42mm it focuses much closer than the 45mm, good enough for some flower shots.

Disclaimer: bundled with the E-M10 body, the R II only cost me $50...well worth it. I wouldn't have paid full price for it.

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