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Olympus Cameras: Shutter Release Lag Time = Normal or Short

Started Jul 10, 2016 | Discussions
Charley123 Senior Member • Posts: 1,166
Olympus Cameras: Shutter Release Lag Time = Normal or Short

I'm aware this setting reduces battery life by around 20%. I'm not overly concerned about that.

I read on another forum that one fellow's battery compartment overheated while using this setting. That concerns me a little, but only one person reported that (as far as I know). So I'm not overly concerned about this. It's probably not a common problem.

I'm aware this setting when set to Short is theoretically better for action photography, but is it really enough faster to help?

Does this setting increase or decrease shutter shock? This is the question that interests me most.

CrisPhoto
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Charley123 wrote:

I'm aware this setting reduces battery life by around 20%. I'm not overly concerned about that.

I read on another forum that one fellow's battery compartment overheated while using this setting. That concerns me a little, but only one person reported that (as far as I know). So I'm not overly concerned about this. It's probably not a common problem.

I'm aware this setting when set to Short is theoretically better for action photography, but is it really enough faster to help?

Does this setting increase or decrease shutter shock? This is the question that interests me most.

Forget the comment with the overheated battery, never heard such an issue and how a 20% power plus can overheat the battery is outside my imagination (if this myth was true, video or serial shooting would be even more "dangerous" ...

Back to reality:

Release time lag short reduces shutter vibration greatly. Because two things happen before capture: The shutter drive spans some spring (first vibration) and the shutter close and opens (second vibration). Simply spoken, release time lag=short eliminates 50% of vibration cause. See my test here:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3651827

With my EM1, AntiShock=0 and ReleaseLag=short reduces vibration blur to 10% with most lenses (unfortunately my EM1s shutter drive always operates a little bit even with AntiShock=0, EM1 has a "fake" EFC).

With my EM5 II, AntiShock=0 and ReleaseLag=short eliminates shutter vibration completely, EM5 II has a real EFC and any shutter movement occurs after the exposure. It is the only camera that works perfectly (= shutter shock free and pixel sharp) with my new 100-400 zoom. Pure electronic shutter would be another option for this lens, but I prefer to avoid the rolling shutter of ES.

Christof

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Martin.au
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Re: Olympus Cameras: Shutter Release Lag Time = Normal or Short

Charley123 wrote:

I'm aware this setting reduces battery life by around 20%. I'm not overly concerned about that.

I read on another forum that one fellow's battery compartment overheated while using this setting. That concerns me a little, but only one person reported that (as far as I know). So I'm not overly concerned about this. It's probably not a common problem.

I'm aware this setting when set to Short is theoretically better for action photography, but is it really enough faster to help?

Does this setting increase or decrease shutter shock? This is the question that interests me most.

I always leave it on short. Haven't noticed any problems.

However, if you have a camera with it, then you should also have 0 second anti-shock. That will be the best solution to mitigate shock.

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OP Charley123 Senior Member • Posts: 1,166
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CrisPhoto wrote:

Charley123 wrote:

I'm aware this setting reduces battery life by around 20%. I'm not overly concerned about that.

I read on another forum that one fellow's battery compartment overheated while using this setting. That concerns me a little, but only one person reported that (as far as I know). So I'm not overly concerned about this. It's probably not a common problem.

I'm aware this setting when set to Short is theoretically better for action photography, but is it really enough faster to help?

Does this setting increase or decrease shutter shock? This is the question that interests me most.

Forget the comment with the overheated battery, never heard such an issue and how a 20% power plus can overheat the battery is outside my imagination (if this myth was true, video or serial shooting would be even more "dangerous" ...

Back to reality:

Release time lag short reduces shutter vibration greatly. Because two things happen before capture: The shutter drive spans some spring (first vibration) and the shutter close and opens (second vibration). Simply spoken, release time lag=short eliminates 50% of vibration cause. See my test here:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3651827

With my EM1, AntiShock=0 and ReleaseLag=short reduces vibration blur to 10% with most lenses (unfortunately my EM1s shutter drive always operates a little bit even with AntiShock=0, EM1 has a "fake" EFC).

With my EM5 II, AntiShock=0 and ReleaseLag=short eliminates shutter vibration completely, EM5 II has a real EFC and any shutter movement occurs after the exposure. It is the only camera that works perfectly (= shutter shock free and pixel sharp) with my new 100-400 zoom. Pure electronic shutter would be another option for this lens, but I prefer to avoid the rolling shutter of ES.

Christof

Thank you for your excellent and informative post. I've been scouring the Web (without success) trying to find that much info.

I don't recall anyone explaining the shutter shock implications of Shutter Release Lag Time (SRLT) setting that well before.

The info you provided at your link is great too. I bookmarked it in my computer. I will read it all. So far I've only skimmed the part about SRLT.

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The other warning I read was not to use SRLT when continuous shooting. Though I had already been doing so before I read the warning. The warning was posted at Fred Miranda forum by a guy with an M1 or M5 (forgot which) that jammed up. A couple other people reported similar issues.

However, I have been using SRLT = Short with Continuous Shooting 4 FPS on my M10-II without any problems at all. I'd already been doing this for a month before I read user warnings not to use short lag with continuous shooting. So my M10-II seems to tolerate it fine.

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When I first got my M10-II, I immediately read Robin Wong's OMD settings that he uses and recommends at https://robinwong.blogspot.com/2015/07/the-robin-wongs-om-d-camera-cheat-sheet.html

He recommends or uses Anti-Shock = 0 Sec and Shutter Release Lag Time = Short as his standard settings, but he doesn't explain why or the implications.

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Thanks again Chrisof for your great explanation

OP Charley123 Senior Member • Posts: 1,166
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I created 4 Mysets.

3 of them use Anti-Shock = 0 Sec and Shutter Release Lag Time = Short.

1 uses Silent Shutter = 0 Sec and Shutter Release Lag Time = Short.

Does Shutter Release Lag Time Setting have any effect when using Silent Shutter?

csiluk Senior Member • Posts: 1,508
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That was one hell of test! I honestly didn't think it would help that much. That had to consume a great deal of time. But thank you! That was very informative.

RedDog Steve
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Normal.

Multiple sources reporting damage risk and additional power drain is convincing enough for me.

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OP Charley123 Senior Member • Posts: 1,166
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RedDog Steve wrote:

Normal.

Multiple sources reporting damage risk and additional power drain is convincing enough for me.

Did you read ChrisPhoto's post in this thread? Post Number 2.

OP Charley123 Senior Member • Posts: 1,166
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I have learned there's two schools of thought on this, depending on who you ask.

One says lag time short is great because it helps reduce shutter shock, improves camera reaction time for shooting action, and doesn't hurt a thing other than reducing battery life.

The other says lag time short is bad because it creates extra wear on camera, might jam the camera, and reduces battery life.

Here is what I think. Chris photo has done extensive research and testing (see post number 2) and he thinks lag time short is great because it reduces shutter shock, especially when used with Anti-shock = 0 seconds.

I personally had already used Anti-Shock = 0 Sec and Shutter Release Lag Time = Short, and Continuous 4 fps shooting for a month with no problems (other than less battery life).

I read that Robin Wong in his blog says he usually uses Anti-Shock = 0 Sec and Shutter Release Lag Time = Short. He's an enthusiast and Olympus employee.

So I'm going to continue using Shutter Release Lag Time = Short when I'm not concerned about battery life. I own a second battery and that's enough so that I don't have to worry about battery life all that much.

RedDog Steve
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Charley123 wrote:

RedDog Steve wrote:

Normal.

Multiple sources reporting damage risk and additional power drain is convincing enough for me.

Did you read ChrisPhoto's post in this thread? Post Number 2.

Yes, did you read The Manual ?
Chris' results show 0-sec and 0-sec plus lagtime=short to be substantially the same.

If my camera cannot function properly without decreasing its lifespan or incurring additional power consumption, I consider that a problem.

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OP Charley123 Senior Member • Posts: 1,166
Re: Olympus Cameras: Shutter Release Lag Time = Normal or Short

RedDog Steve wrote:

Charley123 wrote:

RedDog Steve wrote:

Normal.

Multiple sources reporting damage risk and additional power drain is convincing enough for me.

Did you read ChrisPhoto's post in this thread? Post Number 2.

Yes, did you read The Manual ?
Chris' results show 0-sec and 0-sec plus lagtime=short to be substantially the same.

If my camera cannot function properly without decreasing its lifespan or incurring additional power consumption, I consider that a problem.

I lost my manual. It's not much of a lot really since it didn't have much information in it.

I recall the manual mentioned lag time short reducing battery life, but I don't recall it mentioning other wear and tear issues. The only places I've seen wear-and-tear issues mentioned was in Internet forums.

I've never worn a camera out yet. They always go obsolete long before they wear out.

dangle74 New Member • Posts: 1
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Please give menu detail for EM5 to adjust "shutter lagtime" to short! Have looked and looked.............

Thanks

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csiluk Senior Member • Posts: 1,508
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C in the gears menu. Scroll to the last item.

steven drury New Member • Posts: 12
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can you set the Release lag time on the OMD-EM1 MKII i can not find it under the C wheel. it is an option on my omd-em1 under the menu C wheel on the bottom.

Helen
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steven drury wrote:

can you set the Release lag time on the OMD-EM1 MKII i can not find it under the C wheel. it is an option on my omd-em1 under the menu C wheel on the bottom.

No, you can’t.  It’s no longer an available option on the Mark II.

steven drury New Member • Posts: 12
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thank you

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