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about to buy nx2000. good decision?

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zzzxtreme
zzzxtreme Senior Member • Posts: 1,219
about to buy nx2000. good decision?

Hi guys. I've been posting here and there asking plenty questions lol. So i apologise in advance.  my current setup is two nikon v1s and some lenses. Great for good lighting conditions. Huge buffer for continuous shooting. But in low light conditons, it's unusable at 6400 iso which is the max.

I've ordered a konica hexanon 50mm f/1.4 on impulse, then realising it becomes 135mm equivalent on v1

So now im looking for aspc camera to play around with that konica lens, especially for low light conditions. I stumbled at nx2000 with 20-50mm for $200 new. A used canon eos m (body only) is about $150. Nex3 body is almost $150.

Should i go for nx2000? Is it better at high iso? Is it simple to use focus peaking?

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They call me Hans
They call me Hans Regular Member • Posts: 468
Re: about to buy nx2000. good decision?

zzzxtreme wrote:

Hi guys. I've been posting here and there asking plenty questions lol. So i apologise in advance. my current setup is two nikon v1s and some lenses. Great for good lighting conditions. Huge buffer for continuous shooting. But in low light conditons, it's unusable at 6400 iso which is the max.

I've ordered a konica hexanon 50mm f/1.4 on impulse, then realising it becomes 135mm equivalent on v1

So now im looking for aspc camera to play around with that konica lens, especially for low light conditions. I stumbled at nx2000 with 20-50mm for $200 new. A used canon eos m (body only) is about $150. Nex3 body is almost $150.

Should i go for nx2000? Is it better at high iso? Is it simple to use focus peaking?

Overall the NX2000 is just gonna be the better camera (unless you're trying for video, the EOS has it beat there with a mic jack). Plus, it's coming with a kit lens.

I'd jump on it based on those factors alone.

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bourdieu_boy Regular Member • Posts: 150
Re: about to buy nx2000. good decision?

I've never used the EOS or the NEX, but the NX2000 just has a lot of features and great image quality, and for that price it's a good deal.

With Samsung abandoning NX, I have been looking at alternatives, but they are all much more expensive and none sit on that sweet spot of compact designs (bodies and lenses), features and quality.

Christian Unger
Christian Unger Regular Member • Posts: 179
Re: about to buy nx2000. good decision?

If you're mainly using it for legacy lenses, you might want to choose something that has more to offer for manual focusing.

Other cameras offer touch-screen magnification or at least you can move the magnified area to check focus. this is not possible on Samsung NX cameras. You'll have to trust focus peaking or focus and recompose.

Sony are OK, especially the few ones with touchscreen. The 5N/R/T were excellent cameras for manual focusing. Panasonic or Olympus should also be perfectly fine, if you can live with the 2x crop factor (actually, for a 50mm lens the 1.5x factor isn't perfect anyway... actually I'd prefer 135mm eq FL over 75mm anyway, but that's just me ).

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vatazhka
vatazhka Regular Member • Posts: 355
Re: about to buy nx2000. good decision?

I'd agree that buying NX2000 would be a good decision:

  • NX2000 has a very large display, which helps focussing in manual mode. However, this comes at a cost - there are very few manual knobs & buttons, you'll have to rely on the touchscreen for control.
  • You can enable x5/x8 magnification of the central area in parallel to focus peaking. However, you can't move the magnified area around the frame.
  • 20-50mm kit lens is nice (especially at the wider end), although it is noisy, slower to focus than most NX lenses and requires manual unfolding from the transport position. The front element rotates when focussing. It would be a good addition to the manual lens once you'd want to shoot at a wider angles.
  • Sensor-wise, NX2000 has the best low-light sensitivity and dynamic range among the 3 cameras (At least according to DxOMark.).
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supeyugin1 Contributing Member • Posts: 912
Re: about to buy nx2000. good decision?

zzzxtreme wrote:

Hi guys. I've been posting here and there asking plenty questions lol. So i apologise in advance. my current setup is two nikon v1s and some lenses. Great for good lighting conditions. Huge buffer for continuous shooting. But in low light conditons, it's unusable at 6400 iso which is the max.

I've ordered a konica hexanon 50mm f/1.4 on impulse, then realising it becomes 135mm equivalent on v1

So now im looking for aspc camera to play around with that konica lens, especially for low light conditions. I stumbled at nx2000 with 20-50mm for $200 new. A used canon eos m (body only) is about $150. Nex3 body is almost $150.

Should i go for nx2000? Is it better at high iso? Is it simple to use focus peaking?

Buy? I will never buy any Samsung product in my life, only if they pay to me, then I'll take the money and throw away Samsung (or sell it on ebay).

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bourdieu_boy Regular Member • Posts: 150
Re: about to buy nx2000. good decision?

vatazhka wrote:

  • NX2000 has a very large display, which helps focussing in manual mode. However, this comes at a cost - there are very few manual knobs & buttons, you'll have to rely on the touchscreen for control.

I think the lack of manual controls is a bit of a furphy. The top control wheel is also a button when you push it forward, and it's very clever and effective. I would criticise the NX2000 for other interface issues - the touch screen is good but can be slower to respond than my phone's, and one of the buttons takes you unnecessarily to a home screen, but it's easier overall than other cameras I have used.

They call me Hans
They call me Hans Regular Member • Posts: 468
Re: about to buy nx2000. good decision?

supeyugin1 wrote:

zzzxtreme wrote:

Hi guys. I've been posting here and there asking plenty questions lol. So i apologise in advance. my current setup is two nikon v1s and some lenses. Great for good lighting conditions. Huge buffer for continuous shooting. But in low light conditons, it's unusable at 6400 iso which is the max.

I've ordered a konica hexanon 50mm f/1.4 on impulse, then realising it becomes 135mm equivalent on v1

So now im looking for aspc camera to play around with that konica lens, especially for low light conditions. I stumbled at nx2000 with 20-50mm for $200 new. A used canon eos m (body only) is about $150. Nex3 body is almost $150.

Should i go for nx2000? Is it better at high iso? Is it simple to use focus peaking?

Buy? I will never buy any Samsung product in my life, only if they pay to me, then I'll take the money and throw away Samsung (or sell it on ebay).

Then why are you here...

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supeyugin1 Contributing Member • Posts: 912
Re: about to buy nx2000. good decision?

They call me Hans wrote:

supeyugin1 wrote:

zzzxtreme wrote:

Hi guys. I've been posting here and there asking plenty questions lol. So i apologise in advance. my current setup is two nikon v1s and some lenses. Great for good lighting conditions. Huge buffer for continuous shooting. But in low light conditons, it's unusable at 6400 iso which is the max.

I've ordered a konica hexanon 50mm f/1.4 on impulse, then realising it becomes 135mm equivalent on v1

So now im looking for aspc camera to play around with that konica lens, especially for low light conditions. I stumbled at nx2000 with 20-50mm for $200 new. A used canon eos m (body only) is about $150. Nex3 body is almost $150.

Should i go for nx2000? Is it better at high iso? Is it simple to use focus peaking?

Buy? I will never buy any Samsung product in my life, only if they pay to me, then I'll take the money and throw away Samsung (or sell it on ebay).

Then why are you here...

Because I still have it.

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They call me Hans
They call me Hans Regular Member • Posts: 468
Re: about to buy nx2000. good decision?

supeyugin1 wrote:

They call me Hans wrote:

supeyugin1 wrote:

zzzxtreme wrote:

Hi guys. I've been posting here and there asking plenty questions lol. So i apologise in advance. my current setup is two nikon v1s and some lenses. Great for good lighting conditions. Huge buffer for continuous shooting. But in low light conditons, it's unusable at 6400 iso which is the max.

I've ordered a konica hexanon 50mm f/1.4 on impulse, then realising it becomes 135mm equivalent on v1

So now im looking for aspc camera to play around with that konica lens, especially for low light conditions. I stumbled at nx2000 with 20-50mm for $200 new. A used canon eos m (body only) is about $150. Nex3 body is almost $150.

Should i go for nx2000? Is it better at high iso? Is it simple to use focus peaking?

Buy? I will never buy any Samsung product in my life, only if they pay to me, then I'll take the money and throw away Samsung (or sell it on ebay).

Then why are you here...

Because I still have it.

So you own the camera? But in your above statement, you said you would never buy one? So, how did you get it?

Seems your soul purpose of being here is to publically detest Samsung products and advise people not to get them. Got it . Troll confirmed. Move along.

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supeyugin1 Contributing Member • Posts: 912
Re: about to buy nx2000. good decision?

They call me Hans wrote:

supeyugin1 wrote:

They call me Hans wrote:

supeyugin1 wrote:

zzzxtreme wrote:

Hi guys. I've been posting here and there asking plenty questions lol. So i apologise in advance. my current setup is two nikon v1s and some lenses. Great for good lighting conditions. Huge buffer for continuous shooting. But in low light conditons, it's unusable at 6400 iso which is the max.

I've ordered a konica hexanon 50mm f/1.4 on impulse, then realising it becomes 135mm equivalent on v1

So now im looking for aspc camera to play around with that konica lens, especially for low light conditions. I stumbled at nx2000 with 20-50mm for $200 new. A used canon eos m (body only) is about $150. Nex3 body is almost $150.

Should i go for nx2000? Is it better at high iso? Is it simple to use focus peaking?

Buy? I will never buy any Samsung product in my life, only if they pay to me, then I'll take the money and throw away Samsung (or sell it on ebay).

Then why are you here...

Because I still have it.

So you own the camera? But in your above statement, you said you would never buy one? So, how did you get it?

Seems your soul purpose of being here is to publically detest Samsung products and advise people not to get them. Got it . Troll confirmed. Move along.

I've got NX100, then NX20, then NX500, then NX Mini and a multiple lenses. I also had Samsung phones, microwave, TV. Then Samsung pulled out of the camera market. I decided to boycott Samsung products since then. Clear?

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bourdieu_boy Regular Member • Posts: 150
Re: about to buy nx2000. good decision?

supeyugin1 wrote:

I've got NX100, then NX20, then NX500, then NX Mini and a multiple lenses. I also had Samsung phones, microwave, TV. Then Samsung pulled out of the camera market. I decided to boycott Samsung products since then. Clear?

Selling any off?

supeyugin1 Contributing Member • Posts: 912
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bourdieu_boy wrote:

supeyugin1 wrote:

I've got NX100, then NX20, then NX500, then NX Mini and a multiple lenses. I also had Samsung phones, microwave, TV. Then Samsung pulled out of the camera market. I decided to boycott Samsung products since then. Clear?

Selling any off?

I can sell you NX mini + standard zoom, NX-M adapter, NX100, NX100 EVF, Galaxy K zoom, Galaxy Note 3. Interested?

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Kisaha Senior Member • Posts: 2,300
Re: about to buy nx2000. good decision?
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supeyugin1 wrote:

bourdieu_boy wrote:

supeyugin1 wrote:

I've got NX100, then NX20, then NX500, then NX Mini and a multiple lenses. I also had Samsung phones, microwave, TV. Then Samsung pulled out of the camera market. I decided to boycott Samsung products since then. Clear?

Selling any off?

I can sell you NX mini + standard zoom, NX-M adapter, NX100, NX100 EVF, Galaxy K zoom, Galaxy Note 3. Interested?

I understand your anger, but Samsung does offer the most competitive prices with best all around performance and specifications in most products they produce.

Except for mobile phones (which I buy good Chinese ones with no regret at all!) in everything else Samsung usually has the best product (and value for money).

At least they produced amazing cameras just before the end, and you can't blame them that produced the most advanced cameras of 2014 with very competitive prices and noone bought them..

I am certain that NX2 would have been a revolution, but R&D of high end photo/video cameras and the manufacturing of all the components is something very expensive, add to this the decline of the industry and other market trends, and you have the answer.

The pitty is if all this technology and know how, goes to waste, that is the only "sin" I can not forgive, but in the other hand, you are just limiting yourself if you boycotte Samsung products, and even if the few hundred (or less) die hard NX funs boycote their products, that isn't even a hair on their private parts; the whole corporation worths more money than my whole south-eastern European country!

Christian Unger
Christian Unger Regular Member • Posts: 179
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Kisaha wrote:

and you can't blame them that produced the most advanced cameras of 2014 with very competitive prices and noone bought them..

well, you can. "too little, too late"

The NX200/210/20 and also NX30 were "just ok" when they were released. Nothing to write home about. As good as others? Yes. Cheaper? Depending on if you ignore the MSRP: definitely yes. Standing out of the crowd? Nope. And that is what matters quite a bit. If you want to sell, you have to convince your customers that your product is what they really want. Just being as good as others while being a bit cheaper does not cut it.

The majority if people buys stuff because they like it, not because it's good value for money.

The NX1 was a good step into the right direction, but at that point in time it was already too late.

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Kisaha Senior Member • Posts: 2,300
Re: about to buy nx2000. good decision?

Christian Unger wrote:

Kisaha wrote:

and you can't blame them that produced the most advanced cameras of 2014 with very competitive prices and noone bought them..

well, you can. "too little, too late"

The NX200/210/20 and also NX30 were "just ok" when they were released. Nothing to write home about. As good as others? Yes. Cheaper? Depending on if you ignore the MSRP: definitely yes. Standing out of the crowd? Nope. And that is what matters quite a bit. If you want to sell, you have to convince your customers that your product is what they really want. Just being as good as others while being a bit cheaper does not cut it.

The majority if people buys stuff because they like it, not because it's good value for money.

The NX1 was a good step into the right direction, but at that point in time it was already too late.

The NX1 is still the best APS-C all arounder, so how it wasn't exceptional back then? And even in normal retail price is STILL cheaper than Nikon/Canon/Fuji offerings, and on par with m4/3 high end models and a6300.

Plus the hack/mode scene is adding value that others (except Canon and Magic Lantern) can't even dream about.

If they had the will (and obviously they haven't) they could have advanced to higher levels with any other camera after the NX1/NX500 combo which I use and they could have probably win the war over Fuji/m43, and tried to overthrown someone from Canon/Nikon/Sony (probably Nikon is the future's weak link here), but was it really worth it to spend so much money for a tiny segment of the market? Camera phones and "white appliances" are two huge markets that worth more money and appeal to the majority of people, plus Samsung is offering the easiest, cheapest and most accurate way to Virtual Reality right now, which is going to be really big in the next few years.

Yes, I am dissapointed about their decision, but I still use every day what I consider it to be the most modern photo/video experience in the market TODAY, when the time comes, I will reconsider my options, until then, I will squeeze every drop out of them!

ttbek Veteran Member • Posts: 4,869
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Have you seen the UFS announcements?  If Samsung kept going with NX that would almost certainly have been in the next high end model allowing for some serious continuous shooting.

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zzzxtreme
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thanks all. pulled the trigger
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thanks all. I did buy it. I chose it over a used eos m for the 1 year warranty, and apparently better high ISO output. for $200 it's a pretty good deal I guess.

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