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Olympus TG-4 / PT-056 / UFL-3 Flash Problem

Started Jun 8, 2016 | Questions
pak52b Junior Member • Posts: 29
Olympus TG-4 / PT-056 / UFL-3 Flash Problem

Hello,

I'm not sure this is the right forum, but here goes anyways.

I'm a (more or less) proud owner of an Olympus TG-4 point and shoot and their underwater case PT-056.

Recently, I bought a tray and a UFL-3 external strobe.

Question 1:
I am unable to get the strobe to work in the case via optical cable. If I hold the cable on the camera's flash directly, the UFL-3 discharges, but not when
shooting through the case. I bought a 3rd party cable, and suspect that this might be a reason. The vendor however says that case, camera, flash, and cable
work fine together.
The setup is basically exactly like this:
https://www.olympus.de/s/uw_usage_guide/en/setup/PT-056.html
tg-4 -> pt-056 -> pfca-02 cable adapter -> cable -> ufl-3
Does anyone have any ideas? I would hate to shell out 100+ € for a fiber-optic cable if that isn't the reason

Question 2:
I was planning on buying a second UFL-3. If I understand correctly, I would need to have an adapter to feed two cables into the camera? Alternatively, I
could use the second flash as a wireless slave. Would a second flash be worth it, and could I set everything up via FC-cable?
I'm not the most experienced diver yet, but can control myself well underwater. Still I would like to be able to use TTL etc. to keep things simple for now.

Is it even recommend getting a second strobe for a camera like that? (Depending on how things go, I would consider upgrading sometime in the future... )

Thanks in advance!
JJ

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Alan Dewey
Alan Dewey Junior Member • Posts: 37
Re: Olympus TG-4 / PT-056 / UFL-3 Flash Problem

Hello.

I do not have an Olympus UFL-3 in front of me, so I might not be completely accurate here.

I believe on that strobe that there are two places that you can plug in the fibre optic.   First try the 'other' place.  I think you want to plug the fiber optic cable into the black receptical.   Then try to fire the flash.

If that does not make any difference:

The best way to figure out what is going wrong, would be to borrow a 'good' fiber optic.   I know that can be tough to do.

First question;    When you have the camera in the housing and shoot something, you DO see the flash on the diffuser panel, correct?   Just want to be sure that I understand your situation.

Try this-  remove the fiber optic cable from the housing and from the strobe.   Hold the strobe right up to the housing so that the light sensor is up against the white flash diffuser of the housing if you can.   (The strobe will be aiming the opposite way from the camera.)

Fire the flash in your TG-4; did the strobe fire?    If so, then I would really want to try a 'better' fiber optic cable.   If it did not flash, then that test was 'inconclusive'.

Please let us know how it goes.

When you are ready to use two strobes with your setup there are quite a few options available.

The simplest way is to leave your one-strobe setup as is, then physically mount your 2nd strobe.  Then run a fiber optic from the first strobe to the second (the 2nd will slave from the 1st.).   You may find that TTL does not work well in this case, but it should work for manual.

When you get your seocnd strobe, buy the 2nd fiber optic cable with no connector on one end.   Now remove the connector from your 1st fiber optic and you can insert the 'camera end' of BOTH fiber optic cables into this, and plug this into your fiber optic receptical on your camera housing.     You can also use this double hole bush which accomplishes the same thing; advantage is that you can quickly remove one cable because it is only a friction fit, the disadvantage is that it is only  a friction fit.

Lizzyr498
Lizzyr498 New Member • Posts: 3
Re: Olympus TG-4 / PT-056 / UFL-3 Flash Problem

Hello.. new to the group and just now getting more serious about my pictures.. I have the TG4 and PT-056.. just bought the UFL-3 Underwater strobe and small arm..

I was told when I purchased the strobe it was wireless and didnt need the optic cable. I have looked and cant find anything on the Olympus site about this.. I leave for Tiger beach in two weeks and need to get myself together.. thank you in advance..

liz..

Alan Dewey
Alan Dewey Junior Member • Posts: 37
Re: Olympus TG-4 / PT-056 / UFL-3 Flash Problem

The UFL-3 is wireless, but it is not cableless. I believe you will have to get a proper fiber optic cable.

Inon does make a 'wireless' kit for their strobes. They have a different style of slave-sensor; their 'wireless kit' is basically a mirror for the sensor and a mirror (if necessary) for the camera flash. Yes, it works, but it is definitely not a convenience. Every time you re-aim or move the strobe, you might be misaligning the mirrors.

Fiber-optics designed for underwater use can not be damaged by water.  And they do not wear out, so unless you lose it or lend it to someone, it will last a lifetime.  They are very reliable method of triggering your strobe(s).

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Alan Dewey
Delray Beach, Florida
My day job is with a very large underwater photography & video equipment company in Fort Lauderdale.

Lizzyr498
Lizzyr498 New Member • Posts: 3
Re: Olympus TG-4 / PT-056 / UFL-3 Flash Problem

Thank you for the response.. I am agian new to the comapatiblity of what works with what.. I have the Tg4/UFL-3/proper fiber optic cable/and PT-056 cable.. unfortunately I can't get the strobe to fire as the other post mentions from another diver.. any suggestions it says the light will turn red, that said it turns a slight yellow reddish bit not red.??

Lizzyr498
Lizzyr498 New Member • Posts: 3
Re: Olympus TG-4 / PT-056 / UFL-3 Flash Problem

ok... after blinding my husband I found that you have to move the knob all the way to the manual mode.... lord have mercy.. I work for a global manufacture and for some reason we as manufactures tend to be chanllenged how to manuals and clear wasy to use inter-chang able products..

thank you for the suport. I know I will have more questions..

karin-74 New Member • Posts: 1
Re: Olympus TG-4 / PT-056 / UFL-3 Flash Problem

Manual mode, indeed!
I'm kind of blind now too, but it was worth it
It's kind of confusing to have two positions marked RC A and RC B which do not seem to be working with the RC function of the camera. But then "Manual" does the trick.

charliebkk New Member • Posts: 1
Re: Olympus TG-4 / PT-056 / UFL-3 Flash Problem

karin-74 wrote:

Manual mode, indeed!
I'm kind of blind now too, but it was worth it
It's kind of confusing to have two positions marked RC A and RC B which do not seem to be working with the RC function of the camera. But then "Manual" does the trick.

i think this topic has been several years already, but i'll reply anyway.  The mode actually works. RC A, RC B, and manual mode all work if you get the camera setting correctly. To get RC A/B to work, you need to turn RC on. Then set the flash on the camera group A and B (with channel 1) with either TTL mode or M mode.  To use the manual mode, RC needs to be off. Then the flash on the camera needs to be set to "manual" (not fill-in). Then you can adjust the GN on the strobe using the dial know.  Because Oly camera has pre-flash, if you don't use "manual", but use fill-in instead (and strobe is set to manual knob), olympus camera will pre-flash and then flash, causing the camera to miss the strobe.

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