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Advise for a budget EOS camera

Started Jun 7, 2016 | Discussions
airforce1 Junior Member • Posts: 25
Advise for a budget EOS camera

Hi DPR members,

Well, our Japan spec Canon Kiss N/EOS 350/Rebel XT has finally gave up the ghost. We're having focusing issues...no doubt it was related to when I dunked it when I fell into a river

We want to get another camera and want to stay in the EOS family as we already have EF/EF-S mount lenses we still want to utilize. We have the Canon kit lenses 50mm/18-55mm and also an older Sigma 18-200 DC F3.5-6.3 zoom.  We are amateur photographers.

Our budget is under $300-$350 (body only) and our next purchase will be sourced from the secondary market (eBay/amazon).

Obviously, we are excited to move up from a 8MP sensor :). We need a solid value buy with obviously more resolution and newer AF systems/processors. Video capability is not that important to us; our Sony NEX-5N and Pany HDC-700 will handle that responsibility.

I am currently looking at the T2i and possibly bust our budget to a T3i or SL1 model while the T4i, T5, and T5i are little bit out of our budget (at least from what I have seen on the secondary market.

Here is what I have researched so far:

T2i: 18MP. Digit 4, ISO 100-6400.  77% DPR Gold Award

T3i: 18MP. Digit 4, ISO 100-6400 expandable to 12800.  77% DPR Silver Award

SL1: 18MP, Digic 5, ISO 100 – 12800.  78% DPR Gold Award.

User reviews seem to be favorable for all cameras on this forum.

We are not OCD about IQ as we were happy with the Rebel XT expect we would over the moon with the T2i. The question is whether the extra $ upgrade to the T3i or SL1 is worth the move up.

Your astute advice is most appreciated!

seri_art
seri_art Veteran Member • Posts: 3,063
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I had a T2i/450D and then upgraded to a T4i/650D. I wouldn't go back, not because the T4i gave poor results (of course it was fine) but because (1) Manual mode with Auto ISO allows me to set the shutter speed and f/stop with the camera choosing ISO, (2) flippy screen keeps me from sometimes having to lie on the ground, (3) touch-screen focus point in live view is often useful, and (4) live view AF with half-press shutter button is way better than AF with a separate button.

Here's a shot that makes use of all of the above features. Also, I bought my 650D (body only) from ebay almost two years ago for $400; should be less now.

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Vikingod Regular Member • Posts: 236
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The SL1 seems to be a favorite around here. I don't have experience with it, but am thinking about grabbing one for my daughter.

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BeaMouse New Member • Posts: 18
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I just bought an SL1 after seeking advice on here and I'm so glad I did. I was wary about buying a camera which is two years 'old' tech wise, but I needn't have been at all.

My one thing would be it doesn't have a flip screen. Now this doesn't bother me, it's my first slr with live view and tbh I can't get my head around it and much prefer the viewfinder anyway. But, could be something to consider if it's important to you?

One big plus is the size, it is really small, I'm looking to get the 40mm I think to make it super small. I thought before I bought that it might come with me on more outings due to its size and I was right.

Feel free to search for my older threads from a few months back, I had some really good advice from people that could help you as well.

sleibson Regular Member • Posts: 444
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I strongly recommend an SL1 for its image quality and superior user interface. I also strongly recommend you get a refurb from Canon USA on sale for $330 at the moment with 18-55 STM lens and a 1-year warranty. (http://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/cameras/refurbished-eos-digital-slr-cameras#facet:&productBeginIndex:36&orderBy:&pageView:grid&minPrice:&maxPrice:&pageSize:&)

I bought this camera for my wife about 18 months ago but I now prefer it to my 60D for 80% of my shots. It's a terrific camera in many ways and can handle a lot of photo situations as well as any body. You can look at the other reviews and for the price, nothing comes close.

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Andrew Gosden Junior Member • Posts: 28
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The Canon online store also has a refurbished T5 with both 18-55 and 75-300 lenses for under $300.

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Digirame Forum Pro • Posts: 41,857
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Don't get the T5 (1200D) or T6 (1300D) cameras, as they don't offer in-camera sensor dust protection among other things. The Canon T2i (550D), T3i (600D) and SL1 (100D) cameras are excellent for someone with a low budget and also concerned about quality.

All my photos are still taken with the Canon T2i (550D) or Canon T3i (600D) cameras (even though they don't have the latest and greatest features).  Here's a few samples.  I've been showing them about once a week for over four years if you want to see more.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/57881880

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/57848826

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/57853569

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/57853642

ThrillaMozilla Veteran Member • Posts: 7,681
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Why not just get a refurbished camera direct from Canon? They have some SL1's in your price range, and they're almost giving away some T5's. Canon refurbs are guaranteed to meet new-camera specs, and they have the same warranty as a new camera.  The T5 is a lesser camera, though.  I would go for the SL1.

Hurry, the offer lasts only until the cameras are sold.  Oh, I see others have replied already.

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oppy
oppy Contributing Member • Posts: 503
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Get the SL1 refurb direct from Canon - can't beat it for the money right now.

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ThrillaMozilla Veteran Member • Posts: 7,681
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Heck, yes.  And they have a white one with a lens for the same price as body alone.  A white one will stay cooler in bright sunlight.

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WilbaW
WilbaW Forum Pro • Posts: 11,643
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Just because no-one else has mentioned it... you could get a nice 60D for that money.

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007peter
007peter Forum Pro • Posts: 12,933
SL1 (1) Touchscreen (2) Continuous AF in Video (3) Quiet STM lens
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T2i: 18MP. Digit 4, ISO 100-6400. 77% DPR Gold Award

OLD. Great camera 4-5yrs ago, but why buy outdated tech with high shutter-count?

T3i: 18MP. Digit 4, ISO 100-6400 expandable to 12800. 77% DPR Silver Award

OLD. Great camera 4-5yrs ago, but why buy outdated tech with high shutter-count?

has articulating LCD....however, T3i do not do Continuous AF in video. You have to manually hit the shutter to get it in focus. Not good for making vlog.

SL1: 18MP, Digic 5, ISO 100 – 12800. 78% DPR Gold Award.

Digic 5 processor is so much faster and speedier in menu

most importantly are these 3 features:

1. TOUCH-SCREEN. Very important in making video, enable easy focus-pull (AF focus selection) with a simple finger touch.. On older T2i/T3i DSLR w/o touchscreen, you have to manually focus using the MF ring. This create camera shake that is recorded on the video. That is why videographer have to invest in complicated & expensive focus/pull mechanism like this to avoid inducing camera shakes. With a touchscreen, I don't have to used these bulky setup anymore.

2. Continuous Live View (Video Tracking focusing)

T2i/ T3i do not do Continuous Video Tracking in video. You have to manually press the shutter to get it into focus. If the subject moves about, then you have to press the shutter again. With newer Canon DSLR (T4i, T5i, T6s, T6i, SL1) you don't have to do this anymore.

3. Quiet 18-55 STM lens

T2, and T3i comes with the old and loud 18-55 lens. There is a night/day difference in video recording:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn7pwnl0Wmk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiXq6HC3V9g

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OP airforce1 Junior Member • Posts: 25
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007peter wrote:

T2i: 18MP. Digit 4, ISO 100-6400. 77% DPR Gold Award

OLD. Great camera 4-5yrs ago, but why buy outdated tech with high shutter-count?

T3i: 18MP. Digit 4, ISO 100-6400 expandable to 12800. 77% DPR Silver Award

OLD. Great camera 4-5yrs ago, but why buy outdated tech with high shutter-count?

has articulating LCD....however, T3i do not do Continuous AF in video. You have to manually hit the shutter to get it in focus. Not good for making vlog.

SL1: 18MP, Digic 5, ISO 100 – 12800. 78% DPR Gold Award.

Digic 5 processor is so much faster and speedier in menu

most importantly are these 3 features:

1. TOUCH-SCREEN. Very important in making video, enable easy focus-pull (AF focus selection) with a simple finger touch.. On older T2i/T3i DSLR w/o touchscreen, you have to manually focus using the MF ring. This create camera shake that is recorded on the video. That is why videographer have to invest in complicated & expensive focus/pull mechanism like this to avoid inducing camera shakes. With a touchscreen, I don't have to used these bulky setup anymore.

2. Continuous Live View (Video Tracking focusing)

T2i/ T3i do not do Continuous Video Tracking in video. You have to manually press the shutter to get it into focus. If the subject moves about, then you have to press the shutter again. With newer Canon DSLR (T4i, T5i, T6s, T6i, SL1) you don't have to do this anymore.

3. Quiet 18-55 STM lens

T2, and T3i comes with the old and loud 18-55 lens. There is a night/day difference in video recording:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn7pwnl0Wmk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiXq6HC3V9g

Hi Peter, thanks for the advice but as I stated earlier video is not important to us.

In any case, it looks like the Canon SL1s with STM lens kits are all out of stock.

We just bought a NEW body with accessories on Amazon.  OTD price including shipping to out next of the woods was $380.....certainly better than the quoted refurbished version on the Canon website for $330 + shipping.

Thanks everyone for chiming in!

jwilliams Veteran Member • Posts: 6,395
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Another vote for the SL1.  Get it with the STM kit lens.  It is much improved over your older kit lens and in general if you buy other lenses for it try to get the STM lenses.  They work much better with live view and are generally better optically as all are newer designs.  The 55-250 is a great lens for the money.  18-135 STM is also great general purpose lens.

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rmexpress22 Senior Member • Posts: 2,304
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Although it seems like it wouldn't matter as much, the t3i articulating screen comes in very handy and I'd get it for that alone. I love the size of the SL1 but IQ is slightly degraded due to some pixels being used for AF. If you do any video, the t3i also offers "digital zoom" which allows you to record using a smaller area of the sensor so it's not the typical digital zoom since it's still using roughly the same amount of pixels as if you weren't zooming in.

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jbcohen Senior Member • Posts: 1,241
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