Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4 Dc and MC-11 Converter

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rocketjacket
rocketjacket Regular Member • Posts: 192
Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4 Dc and MC-11 Converter

Wondering what the experience of using the Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4 Dc and MC-11 Converter is like on an a6000.

Any issues with the lens stabilation? Or any other issues?

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jezzad Regular Member • Posts: 224
Re: Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4 Dc and MC-11 Converter

Do you have the lens already? If you were buying it specially I would pass, it would probably be fairly average.

The adapters are designed for people who already have lens collections in a particular mount.

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OP rocketjacket Regular Member • Posts: 192
Re: Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4 Dc and MC-11 Converter

I am after a faster mid range lens for my E mount, any suggestions?

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PC Wheeler
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Re: Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4 Dc and MC-11 Converter

Faster than what lens?

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mcslsk Veteran Member • Posts: 5,773
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On the a6000, you should go with native e-mount if AF is important to you. With the a6300, the Sony  a-mount 1650/2.8 SSM  is an option that works.

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coloR blinD Forum Member • Posts: 72
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We , the foolish Sony apsc lot expecting a fast mid range wide-tele zoom from Sony ....for 6 years now ....

...The a6300 falls a mere crap without such a native e mount apsc ....but Sony never cares !

jezzad Regular Member • Posts: 224
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Sony will never release an APSC 17-55 f2.8 or similar lens because that would be exactly the same size and price and quality as for example an A7 with 24-70 f4

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coloR blinD Forum Member • Posts: 72
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...certainly all the the lens inventory of fast dying A mount system is then being 'directed' to apsc e mount thru LEA LOA LWA LUA adapters ...what a roadmap by Sony for apsc e mount !

mcslsk Veteran Member • Posts: 5,773
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Ever thought about how big (and expensive) such a lens would be? If you look at exisiting offerings for a-mount from Sony, Sigma, Tamron, or comparable lenses from other camera makers: Do you think there is any chance Sony could produce a smaler, less expensive "fast" mid-range zoom? And if Sony would offer the 1650/2.8 in e-mount, how many would put that on an a6000 or a6300? We all would love to haewv a small, lightweight, inexpensive and fast mid-range zoom. Don't think it is going to happen. Until then, use the exisiting 1650/2.8 which works great on the a6300 and is relatively inexpesnsive.

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PC Wheeler
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coloR blinD wrote:


...The a6300 falls a mere crap without such a native e mount apsc ....but Sony never cares !

What drivel that statement is!

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Entropy512 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,842
Re: Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4 Dc and MC-11 Converter

jezzad wrote:

Do you have the lens already? If you were buying it specially I would pass, it would probably be fairly average.

The adapters are designed for people who already have lens collections in a particular mount.

Wrong in the case of the MC-11.  The MC-11 was designed so that Sigma could sell their SGV lenses to Sony body users without creating new lens part numbers.

As to how well it works with the A6000 and 17-70 - I don't know, but I'm likely ordering that combo in a month or so.

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Entropy512 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,842
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mcslsk wrote:

On the a6000, you should go with native e-mount if AF is important to you. With the a6300, the Sony a-mount 1650/2.8 SSM is an option that works.

Note that unlike most adapters, the MC-11 emulates a native lens instead of an EA3 adapter.

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rocketjacket
OP rocketjacket Regular Member • Posts: 192
Re: Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4 Dc and MC-11 Converter

mcslsk wrote:

Ever thought about how big (and expensive) such a lens would be? If you look at exisiting offerings for a-mount from Sony, Sigma, Tamron, or comparable lenses from other camera makers: Do you think there is any chance Sony could produce a smaler, less expensive "fast" mid-range zoom? And if Sony would offer the 1650/2.8 in e-mount, how many would put that on an a6000 or a6300? We all would love to haewv a small, lightweight, inexpensive and fast mid-range zoom. Don't think it is going to happen. Until then, use the exisiting 1650/2.8 which works great on the a6300 and is relatively inexpesnsive.

What 1650/2.8 are you referring to and what adapter?

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PC Wheeler wrote:

Faster than what lens?

The kit lens.

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Re: Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4 Dc and MC-11 Converter

I would like:

Optical Stabilization

The speed of a 2.8

Auto focus for video and stills

I wonder in the 17-70mm f/2.8-4 Dc and MC-11 combo would do the trick?

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mcslsk Veteran Member • Posts: 5,773
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Sorry. I was referring to the Sony DT 1650/2.8 SSM for A-mount and the LA-EA3. €580 + €130 @ amazon.

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grasshpr
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rocketjacket wrote:

Wondering what the experience of using the Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4 Dc and MC-11 Converter is like on an a6000.

Any issues with the lens stabilation? Or any other issues?

I've got the sigma 17-70mm contemporary and MC-11 with the a6300.  The sigma 17-70mm is very sharp, which is one of the main reasons why I wanted to explore this direction rather than purchase the super expensive sony 16-70mm.  In terms of autofocus, it is pretty snappy in acquiring focus, and the focus accuracy is very good.  Under very poor lighting, this lens and adapter combo will tend to hunt a little bit, but usually will find focus.  In comparison to the speed of autofocus for the Viltrox II adapter, I think they have similar autofocus speeds.  I'd recommend the MC-11 vs Viltrox II adapter only if you have need for some of the other focus modes and focusing areas that are intrinsic of e-mount lenses.  However, DMF is useless with this combo since you have to switch the on-lens AF/MF switch to engage MF mode.

Image stabilization also works really well for this combo, probably on par with most of my other e-mount lenses.  Two caveats of this lens is the weight of this lens and the autofocus motor is a bit loud compared to my other e-mount lenses.  If you can ignore these problems, you will be pleasantly surprised with a lens with very good IQ at an affordable price.

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Arneb Contributing Member • Posts: 525
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grasshpr wrote:

rocketjacket wrote:

Wondering what the experience of using the Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4 Dc and MC-11 Converter is like on an a6000.

Any issues with the lens stabilation? Or any other issues?

I've got the sigma 17-70mm contemporary and MC-11 with the a6300. The sigma 17-70mm is very sharp, which is one of the main reasons why I wanted to explore this direction rather than purchase the super expensive sony 16-70mm. In terms of autofocus, it is pretty snappy in acquiring focus, and the focus accuracy is very good. (...)

So, in short, it seems like a great lens on the a6300!

Have you also tested it on the a6000? Many forum members (like me) haven't yet upgraded :).

I'm also interested in the performance of the a6000 + MC-11 + Canon 10-18 STM. Canon's WA is quite a bit cheaper than the Sony one...

Do you also know whether the AF-C in video works (probably really different results between a6000 and a6300)?

rich07 Regular Member • Posts: 130
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mcslsk wrote:

Ever thought about how big (and expensive) such a lens would be? If you look at exisiting offerings for a-mount from Sony, Sigma, Tamron, or comparable lenses from other camera makers: Do you think there is any chance Sony could produce a smaler, less expensive "fast" mid-range zoom? And if Sony would offer the 1650/2.8 in e-mount, how many would put that on an a6000 or a6300? We all would love to haewv a small, lightweight, inexpensive and fast mid-range zoom. Don't think it is going to happen. Until then, use the exisiting 1650/2.8 which works great on the a6300 and is relatively inexpesnsive.

I get fed up of hearing these pathetic handwringing excuses for Sony.

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jezzad Regular Member • Posts: 224
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Rich, that's an f4 lens, similar to Sony's 16-70. Fuji do have an f2.8 lens, but it is much bigger, heavier and more expensive. The Sony equivalent to this is the 24-70mm f4 on an A7.

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