Are these the same lens?

Hello,

I've been looking at the m43 system recently, therefore I have zero experience regarding its lenses.

Looking into the Panasonic 14-140 f/3.5-5.6 lens, I found the following on amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-H-FS14140AK-14-140mm-F3-5-5-6-O-I-S/dp/B0153WGIW8/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1464725957&sr=8-4&keywords=panasonic+14-140

and

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Lumix-Vario-14-140mm-3-5-5-6/dp/B00CFCTH14/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1464725957&sr=8-3&keywords=panasonic+14-140

Are the 2 above the same lens?

Thanks.

I think the latter one is for video while the former is for both stills and video.

Yes.

ernstbk wrote:

Yes.

Thanks. One says HD on it, what's that for?

LWanTeD wrote:

Hello,

I've been looking at the m43 system recently, therefore I have zero experience regarding its lenses.

Looking into the Panasonic 14-140 f/3.5-5.6 lens, I found the following on amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-H-FS14140AK-14-140mm-F3-5-5-6-O-I-S/dp/B0153WGIW8/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1464725957&sr=8-4&keywords=panasonic+14-140

and

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Lumix-Vario-14-140mm-3-5-5-6/dp/B00CFCTH14/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1464725957&sr=8-3&keywords=panasonic+14-140

Are the 2 above the same lens?

Thanks.

One has Power OIS while the other has OIS (sans Power).  Power OIS is the later technology and supposedly faster/better autofocus.

So, no, they are not the same lens in that respect; but, I don't personally know of any other differences, for instance, whether they have the same internal design, otherwise.

LWanTeD wrote:

ernstbk wrote:

Yes.

Thanks. One says HD on it, what's that for?

No idea.

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These are the same lens, when scroll down on the page you will find the same product number but with some cosmetic differences (black, matt black).

http://shop.panasonic.com/cameras-and-camcorders/lumix-camera-lenses/H-FS14140AK.html#start=1&cgid=lumix-camera-lenses

http://shop.panasonic.com/cameras-and-camcorders/lumix-camera-lenses/H-FS14140.html

Alex Ethridge wrote:

LWanTeD wrote:

Hello,

I've been looking at the m43 system recently, therefore I have zero experience regarding its lenses.

Looking into the Panasonic 14-140 f/3.5-5.6 lens, I found the following on amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-H-FS14140AK-14-140mm-F3-5-5-6-O-I-S/dp/B0153WGIW8/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1464725957&sr=8-4&keywords=panasonic+14-140

and

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Lumix-Vario-14-140mm-3-5-5-6/dp/B00CFCTH14/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1464725957&sr=8-3&keywords=panasonic+14-140

Are the 2 above the same lens?

Thanks.

One has Power OIS while the other has OIS (sans Power). Power OIS is the later technology and supposedly faster/better autofocus.

So, no, they are not the same lens in that respect; but, I don't personally know of any other differences, for instance, whether they have the same internal design, otherwise.

Unfortunately this information is not correct.

Both links are H-FS14140 with Power OIS, this is the newer (II) version.

The older version is H-VS14140 with Mega OIS. Another difference is that this lens is f/4-5.8

Both have 'Power'. My guess is the latter is designed for High-Definition(HD) Panasonic camcorders while the former is for cameras with video capability.

This is what I found in B&H: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/750702-REG/Panasonic_AG_AF100_Starter_Kit.html

The included 14-140 for the above starter kit looks like the latter.

Apparently there are quite a few versions of this lens. See also: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/56502914

ernstbk wrote:

Alex Ethridge wrote:

LWanTeD wrote:

Hello,

I've been looking at the m43 system recently, therefore I have zero experience regarding its lenses.

Looking into the Panasonic 14-140 f/3.5-5.6 lens, I found the following on amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-H-FS14140AK-14-140mm-F3-5-5-6-O-I-S/dp/B0153WGIW8/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1464725957&sr=8-4&keywords=panasonic+14-140

and

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Lumix-Vario-14-140mm-3-5-5-6/dp/B00CFCTH14/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1464725957&sr=8-3&keywords=panasonic+14-140

Are the 2 above the same lens?

Thanks.

One has Power OIS while the other has OIS (sans Power). Power OIS is the later technology and supposedly faster/better autofocus.

So, no, they are not the same lens in that respect; but, I don't personally know of any other differences, for instance, whether they have the same internal design, otherwise.

Unfortunately this information is not correct.

Both links are H-FS14140 with Power OIS, this is the newer (II) version.

The older version is H-VS14140 with Mega OIS. Another difference is that this lens is f/4-5.8

So, to make sure, there are 3 versions in total?

1 - The older f/4.0-5.8

2 - New 1: f/3.5-5.6

3 - New 2: Also f/3.5-5.6, where we don't know the difference with #2 above?

Danielvr wrote:

Apparently there are quite a few versions of this lens. See also: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/56502914

Thanks you. So apparently, there are 2 versions of the 3.5-5.6, but they have the same specs.

Allan Brown wrote:

They are the same lens.

What Panasonic did is apply a flat black paint and drop the HD logo from the newer version. The older (by a few months) shinier black lens has been discontinued. Why this happened, you'll have to ask Panasonic.

However, they are exactly the same lens just a different paint job.

Now, there is the original version of this lens and it IS different. Neither of your links show that lens.

Allan

Correct about not mentioning the 1st version of the lens (f/4.0-5.8). Reading online reviews, people are all agreeing that the mark ii version of the lens is the one to get.

So imagine my surprise when I went to amazon and found 2 versions of the mark ii 

Allan Brown wrote:

LWanTeD wrote:

Hello,

I've been looking at the m43 system recently, therefore I have zero experience regarding its lenses.

Looking into the Panasonic 14-140 f/3.5-5.6 lens, I found the following on amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-H-FS14140AK-14-140mm-F3-5-5-6-O-I-S/dp/B0153WGIW8/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1464725957&sr=8-4&keywords=panasonic+14-140

and

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Lumix-Vario-14-140mm-3-5-5-6/dp/B00CFCTH14/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1464725957&sr=8-3&keywords=panasonic+14-140

Are the 2 above the same lens?

Thanks.

They are the same lens.

What Panasonic did is apply a flat black paint and drop the HD logo from the newer version. The older (by a few months) shinier black lens has been discontinued. Why this happened, you'll have to ask Panasonic.

However, they are exactly the same lens just a different paint job.

Now, there is the original version of this lens and it IS different. Neither of your links show that lens.

Allan

Panasonic de-emphasized the HD on the lens barrel because their cameras now shoot 4K - why advertise for a feature that's no longer relevant? The HD basically denoted 'video ready,' meaning that the autofocus motor is relatively fast and quiet and can be used during video.

The newer version is f/3.5-5.6, has a 58mm filter thread, and weighs less than 300g, the older version is f/4-5.8, has a 67mm filter thread if I recall, and weighs over 500g.

I don't often buy electronics on Amazon because the descriptions are such that I feel like I have to work too hard to determine that the item is the version I want. For camera gear, I look at B&H and Adorama first - I trust their descriptions to be accurate.

Allan Brown wrote:

aliasfox wrote:

Allan Brown wrote:

LWanTeD wrote:

Hello,

I've been looking at the m43 system recently, therefore I have zero experience regarding its lenses.

Looking into the Panasonic 14-140 f/3.5-5.6 lens, I found the following on amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-H-FS14140AK-14-140mm-F3-5-5-6-O-I-S/dp/B0153WGIW8/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1464725957&sr=8-4&keywords=panasonic+14-140

and

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Lumix-Vario-14-140mm-3-5-5-6/dp/B00CFCTH14/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1464725957&sr=8-3&keywords=panasonic+14-140

Are the 2 above the same lens?

Thanks.

They are the same lens.

What Panasonic did is apply a flat black paint and drop the HD logo from the newer version. The older (by a few months) shinier black lens has been discontinued. Why this happened, you'll have to ask Panasonic.

However, they are exactly the same lens just a different paint job.

Now, there is the original version of this lens and it IS different. Neither of your links show that lens.

Allan

Panasonic de-emphasized the HD on the lens barrel because their cameras now shoot 4K - why advertise for a feature that's no longer relevant? The HD basically denoted 'video ready,' meaning that the autofocus motor is relatively fast and quiet and can be used during video.

Perhaps this is the case.

That's what I read a while back when the refresh was announced. 'HD' (or 1080p) is like "de-advertising" 4k (2160p).

The newer version is f/3.5-5.6, has a 58mm filter thread, and weighs less than 300g, the older version is f/4-5.8, has a 67mm filter thread if I recall, and weighs over 500g.

Right. But, there are now two versions of the "new" black lens (f3.5-5.6). The older version of the "new" lens has been discontinued. This is what is shown in the links above.

The only difference between these two "new (f3.5-5.6)" black lenses is the paint job.

Also, there is a silver version of the "new (f3.5-5.6)" lens - same lens, different paint.

Currently, all three "new" lenses are available as well as the "older f4-5.8)" lens and this is where the confusion lies.

Allan

I just re-read my post, I can understand the confusion. Both of the linked lenses are the newer model, just one is pre-refresh (with HD), and one is post-refresh (without HD). Optically, they should be identical.  The first generation (f/4-5.8) can often be found around $300, if I recall. The second generation (whether it be pre or post refresh) is sharper, brighter, and lighter.