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4/3 Rumors: Olympus to announce 30mm macro lens

Started May 11, 2016 | Discussions
Sdlv Regular Member • Posts: 357
Re: 43Rumors: Olympus to announce 30mm macro lens

Just conjecturing . . . This 30mm macro is likely to have magnification abilities that exceed 1:1 (the limit of the 60mm); 2:1 to 4:1 wouldn't be difficult to achieve.  (If it doesn't go beyond 1:1, why introduce it.)  It will also be fast, and for these magnifications would most have its own build-in lighting.  Working distance would be short, but those shooting inanimate objects would probably love it.

During the film era, Olympus was a macro leader, with 7 lenses I know about: Three standard macros (50/3.5, 50/2, 90/2) plus 80/4 for bellows or tubes (0.5x - 2x), 135/4.5 for bellows or tubes (infinity to 0.5x+), 38/2.8 for bellows or tubes (1.7x-6.7x), and 20/2 for bellows or tubes (4.2x - 16x).  Plus, Oly had a host of other things, including a great telescoping auto-extension tube that I use with some of these old lenses on my OM-Ds.  So, we haven't even scratched the surface regarding the potential for new digital products in m4/3 macro.

Now, if we could get a long lens like the 135mm to go with the 30mm . . .

. . . Steven

CharlesB58 Veteran Member • Posts: 9,829
Re: sigh

Photo Pete wrote:

bluevellet wrote:

Wait for the full specs. You don't know anything except it is some sort of macro lens and it's 30mm. you don't know if it has any special features or if it's made to be a bargain lens or conversely, some sort of Pro prime.

Oly used to have a 50mm macro and a 30mm with their 43 DSLRs.

By now, you people have to get used to overlapping lenses between Olympus and Panasonic, especially when they're not uber expensive niche lenses.

Can't think of any special features I would want in a macro that the existing lens hasn't got.

The point of my post though is why 30mm when 60mm is already so compact?

I can: half the camera to subject distance at the same magnification as the 60 mm. This is especially useful for table top photography of such things as coins, stamps, figurines and even circuit boards or larger items where getting a nice, sharp flat field image might be easier with 30mm instead of 60mm. Some people use macros not necessarily or exclusively for close up work, but also because macros generally have much flatter field of focus with less distortion than non-macro lenses.

Ya'll need to stop thinking that Olympus is just pulling stuff out of their hats, and realize they have a lot of pros who shoot a wide variety of genres who give them feedback and suggestions.

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captura Forum Pro • Posts: 27,478
Re: 4/3 Rumors: Olympus to announce 30mm macro lens

Photo Pete wrote:

Why?

They already have the tiny 60mm macro.

And there's a new Canon 28mm macro with a ring flash. Something odd about the focal length? But I have a 30mm macro. from Sony. It's usable but you need to get awfully close to the subjects sometimes. No good with insects. They jump away.

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It's the wrong Macro lens to make

M4/3 already has three excellent Macro lenses:

  • Panasonic 30mm f/2.8
  • Panasonic 45mm f/2.8
  • Olympus 60mm f/2.8

As many others have suggested, there is absolutely no need for YET ANOTHER 30mm Macro lens. The system could really use a 90mm f/2.8 Macro, or even something longer.

unless.......

M4/3 has reached the point where there are no new lenses to make, so Panasonic and Olympus will now duplicate each other's lenses, and compete between them on price, quality or features.

We all expected duplication for kit lenses, but now we have two very similar fast normal prime  25mm lenses, two very similar fast portrait  lenses around 45mm, and two very similar superzoom lenses, two very similar 7-14mm wide angle zoom lenses, and now perhaps two very similar 30mm Macro lenses.

We will know for sure when Panasonic announces their 75mm f/1.7 lens.....

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Re: 4/3 Rumors: Olympus to announce 30mm macro lens

The dentist will benefit more from a 100mm than 30mm.

  • You dont want to push a uncleaned lens close to patients mouths, as you would need to clean that lens after every patient.
  • You most often work with a posterior tooths and that means you need to go deep to the mouth for an macro. So they would need to suck the 30mm lens.
  • You want a distance so you dont block the dental light, it is higly focused powerful light.

I had done photography about dentists works for a while to learn what works there and what doesnt. And 30mm macro is not going to be a one.

And like with portraits, 45mm is great and if wanted to get flexibility then 12-40mm Pro is the best when combined with 60mm.  And 100-120mm would be a best macro.

12-40mm is great because you get the portrait works for the smiles and all the stuff while on table.

(unknown member) Contributing Member • Posts: 611
Re: sigh

And more pleasing for perspective!

A 30mm will distort perspective for 1:1 like a 17mm would for tight portrait filling the frame.

It does have its places now and then when wide angle perspective is required like a miniature models or such, but not really for many as 60mm or 150mm would be.

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Re: 4/3 Rumors: Olympus to announce 30mm macro lens

I can tomorrow/day after tomorrow.

SteveY80 Senior Member • Posts: 2,087
Re: 43Rumors: Olympus to announce 30mm macro lens

Sdlv wrote:

Just conjecturing . . . This 30mm macro is likely to have magnification abilities that exceed 1:1 (the limit of the 60mm); 2:1 to 4:1 wouldn't be difficult to achieve. (If it doesn't go beyond 1:1, why introduce it.) It will also be fast, and for these magnifications would most have its own build-in lighting. Working distance would be short, but those shooting inanimate objects would probably love it.

Magnification over 1:1, without losing the ability to focus to infinity and use it as a normal lens, doesn't seem that easy to achieve. The only lens I've seen capable of it is the Laowa 60mm 2:1 macro lens.

If Olympus do manage to make a 2:1+ macro lens that would certainly set it apart from the alternatives. Although higher than 1:1 magnifications can already be achieved by adding a diopter or extension tubes to the existing 30/45/60mm macro lenses.

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eques Veteran Member • Posts: 4,115
Makes sense

Photo Pete wrote:

Why?

They already have the tiny 60mm macro.

if it is fast - a 30mm F2 macro lens could be a multi purpose standard lens,

otherwise a 100mm F2 macro would be preferable!

Peter

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Re: sigh

Rich K wrote:

Well, there's compact, and then there's compact. The 60mm, when extended, isn't exactly dainty.

The 60 mm has internal focus and its physical length doesn't increase the closer you focus.

And, as you point out, it depends on the other capabilities of the (yet to be announced) lens. Might be good as a 60mm FF equivalentt, and therefore multi-use. We'll just have to wait and see.

My 60 mm Micro Nikkor was very useful, so I don't see how a 30 mm Macro would be any less useful. The range of the 60 mm Macro  lens is not always needed.

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RedDog Steve Senior Member • Posts: 1,972
Re: It's the wrong Macro lens to make

Marty4650 wrote:

M4/3 already has three excellent Macro lenses:

  • Panasonic 30mm f/2.8
  • Panasonic 45mm f/2.8
  • Olympus 60mm f/2.8

As many others have suggested, there is absolutely no need for YET ANOTHER 30mm Macro lens. The system could really use a 90mm f/2.8 Macro, or even something longer.

unless.......

M4/3 has reached the point where there are no new lenses to make, so Panasonic and Olympus will now duplicate each other's lenses, and compete between them on price, quality or features.

We all expected duplication for kit lenses, but now we have two very similar fast normal prime 25mm lenses, two very similar fast portrait lenses around 45mm, and two very similar superzoom lenses, two very similar 7-14mm wide angle zoom lenses, and now perhaps two very similar 30mm Macro lenses.

We will know for sure when Panasonic announces their 75mm f/1.7 lens.....

The 135 and 200mm telephoto primes were common to most systems yet we don't have either 68mm or 100mm fast prime lenses.

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captura Forum Pro • Posts: 27,478
Re: 43Rumors: Olympus to announce 30mm macro lens

I have a 30 macro from an APS-C brand.  Things get really interesting when I attach an ultra-wide converter to the front of it.

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OP Photo Pete Veteran Member • Posts: 5,430
F3.5

Photo Pete wrote:

Why?

They already have the tiny 60mm macro.

Sounds like it will be 30mm f3.5. Won't even double as a wide aperture prime.

It's getting more puzzling why they spent time on developing this lens with every new bit of information we find out about it.

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Re: F3.5

It has a very high magnification ratio of 1.5 to 1 which to me implies the kind of lens designed for copy stand kind of work.

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I also have the ZD 35/3.5 macro and still use it occasionally when I truly need something at or near 1:1 or very flat field (copy work). It's very difficult to use such a short macro in the field, longer is going to be better there. If the 30 is similarly priced then I can see it fitting a niche, given the 35 was amazingly cheap considering the performance. Optically it's flawless; the bug is very slow focusing.

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OP Photo Pete Veteran Member • Posts: 5,430
Re: F3.5

SkiHound wrote:

It has a very high magnification ratio of 1.5 to 1 which to me implies the kind of lens designed for copy stand kind of work.

1.5:1 or 1.25:1 ?

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Re: F3.5

1.25 after I looked again. Getting old and can't remember the difference between .25 and .5. Alas.

gary payne Senior Member • Posts: 1,026
How do feel about the Oly 4/3 50mm f2 macro?
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I use the old Oly 50mm 4/3 f2 macro lens with an adaptor of course and it's a tad heavy and bulky.  But I was sold on it after reading the lab test at Imaging Resource.  It exceeded their ability to measure the sharpness level...crazy sharp.  And it has a great bokeh.  A shot at f4 of a lupine spike with a colorful bumblebee on it has been a good seller for me.  The background was perfectly dreamy and the bee whiskers pin sharp.

I have so far never taken a keeper at f2 of any living thing since the need for DOF has always been greater than that.  So...not sure I needed that much glass.  And this lens has no focus limiter so AF can be frustrating; you have to pay attention to the focus point or it's off to the races.

Neverthless, once you are adjusted to its quirks it delivers a truly spectacular picture and it only cost me $250 used.  It just renders better than other macros I've tried.

I have considered the Pan-Leica 45mm f2.8 as a possible replacement since it has a focus limiter and is reportedly tack sharp.  I could skip the adaptor that way too.  But I won't part with my Oly 50mm until I find out.

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Re: It's the wrong Macro lens to make

Yep, a 90mm f2.8 would have been just dandy. I don't see the point for another short macro with minimal working distance.

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