GX80 vs LX100

telefunk wrote:

The Lx100 does not have fantastic IQ. More or less as good as my Casio ZR850 in good light. In low light it is, of course, much better.

No. You are wrong.

But in low light LX100 could be as good/ better due to faster lens.

No, it's not because of the faster lens. It has to do with what Leica did with the sensor...But since you don't know, you post is worthy of troll bait or plain ignorance. Not knowing when you think you know. So DON'T post if you have no idea.

yahoo2u wrote:

telefunk wrote:

The Lx100 does not have fantastic IQ. More or less as good as my Casio ZR850 in good light. In low light it is, of course, much better.

No. You are wrong.

But in low light LX100 could be as good/ better due to faster lens.

No, it's not because of the faster lens. It has to do with what Leica did with the sensor...But since you don't know, you post is worthy of troll bait or plain ignorance. Not knowing when you think you know. So DON'T post if you have no idea.

1) Really, the LX100 is better in low light. I can prove it.

2) Leica sensor?

3) I assure you, a faster lens can compensate for a bigger sensor. So the LX100 could beat the GX85 with kit in low light.

4) Please show your proof if I'm so incompetent after 40 years of photoraphy. Thank you Galileo for showing the way against prejudice!

Wrong, and you got a bad copy.

Lol a bad copy?

I am in the same decision right now my friend. Very tough !

LX offers what GX doesn't  and the opposite..

People on this forum for the most part do not understand the budget limitations and will often talk about 500e or $1000 like its a pack of cigarettes. Not all of us want to swap lenses and carry 4 backpacks around just for the camera, so i think LX100 is perfect all around pocketable camera for everyday purposes, street, travel, landscapes, events..

If you see your self putting 4x price of the camera into glass and wait for a rain in order to make a great rain drop photo then go for GX85.

What makes me get GX is mostly the tilt touchscreen and IBIS but not sure if that is a good reason enough to leave LX100 behind since it simply gives me everything i need for everyday amateur photography .

Ivan983 wrote:

I am in the same decision right now my friend. Very tough !

LX offers what GX doesn't and the opposite..

People on this forum for the most part do not understand the budget limitations and will often talk about 500e or $1000 like its a pack of cigarettes. Not all of us want to swap lenses and carry 4 backpacks around just for the camera, so i think LX100 is perfect all around pocketable camera for everyday purposes, street, travel, landscapes, events..

If you see your self putting 4x price of the camera into glass and wait for a rain in order to make a great rain drop photo then go for GX85.

What makes me get GX is mostly the tilt touchscreen and IBIS but not sure if that is a good reason enough to leave LX100 behind since it simply gives me everything i need for everyday amateur photography .

I went from the LX5 to the GX85 and was wanting to avoid swapping lenses, so I asked the store to swap the defaul 12-32 lens for the 12-60. It gave me the all-in-one solution I was after but with the benefits you've identified, i.e. touch screen, IBIS, potential for more lenses down the track. I don't regret the upgrade - love MFT.

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Yes, although I was just responding to Ivan who posted his comment a few hours ago and said he was facing the same decision.

Ivan983 wrote:

I am in the same decision right now my friend. Very tough !

LX offers what GX doesn't and the opposite..

People on this forum for the most part do not understand the budget limitations and will often talk about 500e or $1000 like its a pack of cigarettes. Not all of us want to swap lenses and carry 4 backpacks around just for the camera, so i think LX100 is perfect all around pocketable camera for everyday purposes, street, travel, landscapes, events..

If you see your self putting 4x price of the camera into glass and wait for a rain in order to make a great rain drop photo then go for GX85.

What makes me get GX is mostly the tilt touchscreen and IBIS but not sure if that is a good reason enough to leave LX100 behind since it simply gives me everything i need for everyday amateur photography .

Yes, but smaller & lighter cameras will give you longer reach and equal IQ, so what's the use except great old-school handling?

Kinsi wrote:

The question is open.
I know it's not the same BUT the gx80 with 14-32mm is pocketable... like the lx100
The question here is: what device have the best IQ.
When i see the review, in labo, the lx100 is better in iq than the Gx7 and gx8...
So as we know the gx80 seems to have an iq egal to the gx7-gx8 can we speculate, the lx100 stays better in terms of iq???

Sorry to activate old discussion. I am googling info about LX100 for second pocket camera and find these live discussion back then.

IMO LX100 is not going to be better than GX80 in term of IQ. Catching up yes. In real practive, the fast aperture of LX100 very usefull in low light situation. Bu if GX80 is paired with Lumix 12-35 f2.8 or Olympus 12-40 f2.8, these pair will win the IQ of LX100 when aperture set to f2.8.

Why? Light and glass quality. Sensor technology also play role.

Try googling pro lens of any brand and you will understand. The pro lens alwas bigger, even for one fix focal line. And the faster the lens, the bigger it is. Because pro lens only talk about one thing, Quality. Example Olympus 17mm f1.8 vs Olympus 17mm f1.2 pro.

So, LX100 lens is build on compromised. It is fast for its size and good, but has limitations due to size and cost.

Image quality and versatility considerations aside, the elephant in the room is the issue of dust on the sensor that is well reported with the LX100 and its replacement, the LX 100 ll. (Or, indeed, many other fixed zoom lens cameras)

I would not consider a camera with such widely reported dust problems.

That's just me mind. I am paranoid about dust, preferring internal zoom lenses where possible for that reason.