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Major SD card problem after trip

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Big Ga Forum Pro • Posts: 18,627
Re: To avoid that, I think you need this:

tt321 wrote:

Big Ga wrote:

Len_Gee wrote:

I have the same case. It's great. I just lock the card, and turn it backwards when full.

Locking the card is a good plan, but the trouble with the simple 'turn it backwards when full method' (which I confess was the first thing that came to my mind as well), is that if you have a couple of cards come loose from both sides, the 'full' and 'empty' loose ones are now facing the same way!

But some will be locked, others not. A bit extra time needed to stare at a card but all is not lost.

Maybe. Maybe not.

The lock switch is small. What is the users eyesight like? Is it dark when your card runs out?

I've had some camera/SD card combos where inserting/removing the card from the camera was so tight (and the switch was so slack), it moved the lock switch from one position to another! Rare, but its actually happened to me.

What if the user is a professional event photographer where a 'bit of extra time' does indeed mean things are lost.

Miron09 Senior Member • Posts: 1,068
I had SanDisk failures

I use Samsung cards now - much more robust

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Kiwisnap Senior Member • Posts: 1,557
Re: I had SanDisk failures

Miron09 wrote:

I use Samsung cards now - much more robust

I've got some Hoodman cards which I have always found reliable.

Dennis12345 Regular Member • Posts: 293
Re: Major SD card problem after trip

LMNCT wrote:

Hi. I mark my cards with a magic marker and number them 1 through 10 when traveling. I also mark my batteries with the Body (i.e. GX8) and a number so they can be rotated. When a new card is inserted into the camera, it is formatted. I also format the cards when they are downloaded. Have not had one fail yet. Hope that your missing shots are on the other cards. It would be a shame to lose them.

That is the exact process that I follow too.

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Martin Ocando
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What about RAID?
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Guy Parsons wrote:

Big Ga wrote:

Indeed!

I'm contemplating buying a new phone, and I notice that the latest ones support up to 2TB micro (let me say that again ... MICRO!) SD cards!

Yes, if it uses SDXC cards (whatever physical outline) then the standard allows up to 2TB on those cards. Many cameras could have that capacity as well when those size cards become available.

Lots to lose in one go.

Regards........ Guy

I would never trust one single card with all my photos. Although, a RAID array configuration using 3 micro SD cards sound compelling. It might increase write speed a bit, and if one fails, you can replace it with another, and the array will rebuild itself.

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Re: What about RAID?

Martin Ocando wrote:

Guy Parsons wrote:

Big Ga wrote:

Indeed!

I'm contemplating buying a new phone, and I notice that the latest ones support up to 2TB micro (let me say that again ... MICRO!) SD cards!

Yes, if it uses SDXC cards (whatever physical outline) then the standard allows up to 2TB on those cards. Many cameras could have that capacity as well when those size cards become available.

Lots to lose in one go.

Regards........ Guy

I would never trust one single card with all my photos.

Why?

And what type of duration are we talking about here. Photos from one shoot. Photos for a years worth of shooting??

Although, a RAID array configuration using 3 micro SD cards sound compelling. It might increase write speed a bit, and if one fails, you can replace it with another, and the array will rebuild itself.

RAID5 sounds a trifle extreme to me. What's wrong with RAID1? If one card fails, then as long as the data is mirrored on another one, you're fine. Just throw the faulty one away, put a new one in, reformat, and away to go.

But let me ask you something - if you say "I would never trust one single card with all my photos" (and I tend to agree with you BTW), why aren't you shooting with a camera with dual card slots? Surely with the gear you have now, every time you take a shot, you're trusting a single card with your photo !?!

kcdogger Veteran Member • Posts: 4,356
Re: Major SD card problem after trip

I am very happy for you that you found the proper card.  Do not feel embarrassed at all.  Things happen.  Just be glad you found the pictures.  Read the many sympathetic posts here.  Yes, IT IS a big deal when you can't find your picts.  Glad you found yours.  No worries.  People just trying to be helpful - be proud of them for that.

Peace.  ...and Best Wishes!

John

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Guy Parsons
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Finding the cards

kcdogger wrote:

I am very happy for you that you found the proper card. Do not feel embarrassed at all. Things happen. Just be glad you found the pictures. Read the many sympathetic posts here. Yes, IT IS a big deal when you can't find your picts. Glad you found yours. No worries. People just trying to be helpful - be proud of them for that.

A good story and a good ending, I have been in that "what the heck?" situation myself at times but getting better now.

In my old age to avoid too much confusion, my wife made a card holder folder.....

The email blobbed out to avoid trolls.

I use 16gig cards, they are tucked into the pockets in twos and when filled are put back reversed and with write protect on. Also nightly copied of course to netbbook and USB hard drive backups as I go. Mine are numbered by a Brother or Dymo style plastic tape labels and my wife's 8 gig card for the Casio pocket camera are lettered.

The odd 32gig micro card is now in a small Lenovo tablet but the adapter card still lives there. Also now I think that I have accumulated about 15 of those 16gig cards so they all get slowly cycled to even out the wear.

Regards.... Guy

Martin Ocando
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Re: What about RAID?

Big Ga wrote:

Martin Ocando wrote:

Guy Parsons wrote:

Big Ga wrote:

Indeed!

I'm contemplating buying a new phone, and I notice that the latest ones support up to 2TB micro (let me say that again ... MICRO!) SD cards!

Yes, if it uses SDXC cards (whatever physical outline) then the standard allows up to 2TB on those cards. Many cameras could have that capacity as well when those size cards become available.

Lots to lose in one go.

Regards........ Guy

I would never trust one single card with all my photos.

Why?

And what type of duration are we talking about here. Photos from one shoot. Photos for a years worth of shooting??

Although, a RAID array configuration using 3 micro SD cards sound compelling. It might increase write speed a bit, and if one fails, you can replace it with another, and the array will rebuild itself.

RAID5 sounds a trifle extreme to me. What's wrong with RAID1? If one card fails, then as long as the data is mirrored on another one, you're fine. Just throw the faulty one away, put a new one in, reformat, and away to go.

I agree that RAID 1 would be better, and no performance impact due to parity checking.

But let me ask you something - if you say "I would never trust one single card with all my photos" (and I tend to agree with you BTW), why aren't you shooting with a camera with dual card slots? Surely with the gear you have now, every time you take a shot, you're trusting a single card with your photo !?!

Well, you are right. I'm trusting one SD card at a time. Although I have 5 8GB cards, that I swap every 100-200 shots, so if one fails, I'll have the images on the other cards, so the event won't be lost completely.

Until Olympus comes with dual SD card on the new E-M1 Mark II (wishful thinking, I know), there is nothing I can do with my current budget.

I have faith, though.

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Big Ga Forum Pro • Posts: 18,627
Re: What about RAID?

Martin Ocando wrote:

dual SD card on the new E-M1 Mark II (wishful thinking, I know)

I have faith, though.

We'll see. It would indeed be good, but I'm not so confident because I've been asking for dual cards and a backup mode from Oly for the last decade! Its never happened - even in the 'pro' 4/3 bodies that actually had dual cards ???!!!!!???? absurd if you ask me.

Panasonic needs to do the same with the higher end bodies. Say the GH and the bigger GX8 type.

Even if it was one normal SD card and one micro one like you get in phones. I'm sure they could squeeze one of those in there!

I have a high confidence level though that the problem isn't space, its speed (and possibly battery consumption). They just don't want to add a feature that will cripple some benchmark figures if turned on.

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