X-Pro 2 and X100T owners: Do you find the ERF indispensable or just nice-to-have?

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Mehran Khalili Forum Member • Posts: 99
X-Pro 2 and X100T owners: Do you find the ERF indispensable or just nice-to-have?

I’ve read a lot about the ‘Electronic rangefinder’ (ERF) function of the X-Pro2 and X100T, where a little EVF window pops up in the OVF for help with exposure and focusing. But I haven’t played with it much as I don’t own one of those cameras. It seems like a great way to have the best of both worlds - OVF and EVF - and a feature that only Fuji could offer, since the groundwork for it was laid back in 2011 with the X100.

Yet, the reviews always seem to talk about ERF as a ‘nice-to-have’ feature. But that’s (obviously) not how Fuji pitches it. So I wanted to ask anyone that owns either of these cameras: Does having the ERF really change the way you shoot? Do you use it most with the mini EVF zoomed in or zoomed out? Or are you just glad it’s there, but are sticking with the full EVF for most of your shooting?

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Immanuel Regular Member • Posts: 129
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I have the X100T. I don't use the ERF. To me, it is too small to make anything but very rough focus checks.

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uniball Senior Member • Posts: 2,070
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I sold my X100T. When I had it I found the ERF to be useless. For my eyes, to small to be of any use and an obstruction to composition.

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Sttringer Junior Member • Posts: 26
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X100T owner and I find I use the ERF exclusively. I'm one of those people who won't buy a camera without a viewfinder, optical or electronic..I want something to bring up to my eye as I've found I get better, more stable performance from good technique.

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akin_t Veteran Member • Posts: 3,320
Re: X-Pro 2 and X100T owners: Do you find the ERF indispensable or just nice-to-have?

Sttringer wrote:

X100T owner and I find I use the ERF exclusively. I'm one of those people who won't buy a camera without a viewfinder, optical or electronic..I want something to bring up to my eye as I've found I get better, more stable performance from good technique.

I think you're confusing ERF for viewfinder. X100T has both an optical and an electronic VF; what OP is asking is if the 'Rangefinder Mode' (i.e. small digital overlay in Optical Viewfinder) is useful.

Personally I don't use it, I haven't found it useful at all.

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uniball Senior Member • Posts: 2,070
Re: X-Pro 2 and X100T owners: Do you find the ERF indispensable or just nice-to-have?

Sttringer wrote:

X100T owner and I find I use the ERF exclusively. I'm one of those people who won't buy a camera without a viewfinder, optical or electronic..I want something to bring up to my eye as I've found I get better, more stable performance from good technique.

Are you referring to the evf/ovf or the ERF? Sounds like the former when the topic is the latter.

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yardcoyote Forum Pro • Posts: 11,712
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I do neither-- I do most of my shooting my X100 with the OVF only--no ERF, no inserts.  I use the EVF primarily for macro (where it is required) and sometimes just for fun, since I've never had a camera with an EVF before.

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Sttringer Junior Member • Posts: 26
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uniball wrote:

Sttringer wrote:

X100T owner and I find I use the ERF exclusively. I'm one of those people who won't buy a camera without a viewfinder, optical or electronic..I want something to bring up to my eye as I've found I get better, more stable performance from good technique.

Are you referring to the evf/ovf or the ERF? Sounds like the former when the topic is the latter.

Kind of referring to both really. I use the ERF function most exclusively and don't opt to use the EVF as it is. That little lever on the camera that switches the function doesn't get used.

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Jose Viegas Senior Member • Posts: 1,845
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EVF only for me, I didn't even remember my X100T had that feature.

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94 Senior Member • Posts: 1,074
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What's an ERF? Something to eat?

I'll try one.

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Sttringer Junior Member • Posts: 26
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94 wrote:

What's an ERF? Something to eat?

I'll try one.

Its kind of like a Twinkie!

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Tony Bonanno Senior Member • Posts: 1,000
Can't figure out WHY Fuji did that ?

I'm using the X-Pro2. I wondered if I was missing something ?? All the hype about the ERF. I use the OVF and the EVF about equally and like them both, depending on the situation. I experimented with the ERF while using the OVF and found myself wondering 'WHY?'. The focusing options are already quite reliable without it. It is too small, it is not telling me anything that I don't already know, and just slows my shooting down by adding another piece of information for my eye to process.  I really like my Fuji gear for my street work, but this feature has me scratching my head ? If I'm obviously missing something, please enlighten me.

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wrenhunter Forum Member • Posts: 96
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Overall, I'd say nice to have. I'm coming from film rangefinders (Voigtlander), so having a "real" RF viewfinder sounded great to me. But in practice, as others said, it's very tiny. I tend to use OVF alone, EVF once in a while. Manual focus assist is a feature I use more than ERF.

DonHF Forum Member • Posts: 94
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ERF is great if you want to use OVF and focus accurately in either MF mode or with any adapted glass.

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DonHF wrote:

ERF is great if you want to use OVF and focus accurately in either MF mode or with any adapted glass.

I'd forgotten about the adapted glass where using only manual focus on non-Fuji glass.  Guess I had missed something :-).

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bhop0073 New Member • Posts: 3
Re: X-Pro 2 and X100T owners: Do you find the ERF indispensable or just nice-to-have?

I guess this thread's been here a while, but I just found it... so..

I use the little ERF all the time in my X100T, it seems i'm the minority. I have it set to zoom in really close, so when I want to manual focus, it acts as my rangefinder patch, or when I want to focus check something with AF, It saves me from having to push the button to do it.

I also use a Leica M6, so i'm wondering if that has something to do with me liking an extra focus option, with regards to its rangefinder patch.

OP Mehran Khalili Forum Member • Posts: 99
Re: X-Pro 2 and X100T owners: Do you find the ERF indispensable or just nice-to-have?

Thanks for the info. Interesting take...

John Gellings Veteran Member • Posts: 5,189
Re: Can't figure out WHY Fuji did that ?

Tony Bonanno wrote:

I experimented with the ERF while using the OVF and found myself wondering 'WHY?'. The focusing options are already quite reliable without it. It is too small, it is not telling me anything that I don't already know, and just slows my shooting down by adding another piece of information for my eye to process.

Those who come from mechanical rangefinder cameras may find it more comfortable... we don;t all use cameras the same way.

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Sttringer wrote:

94 wrote:

What's an ERF? Something to eat?

I'll try one.

Its kind of like a Twinkie!

Tastes like chicken!

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Tony Bonanno Senior Member • Posts: 1,000
Re: Can't figure out WHY Fuji did that ?

Hi John,

Yes, I agree.. I came from Leica and other mechanical rangefinders and I love the Fuji Optical Viewfinder (OVF), but find the addition a tiny Electronic view (ERF) in the corner of the OVF to be a bit distracting and of very limited usefulness, at least for my shooting style.  But like you said, everyone has different preferences..

Cheers,

Tony

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