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An Unholy Trinity for the rest of the unwashed masses. :-)

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Phil Geusebroek Contributing Member • Posts: 622
An Unholy Trinity for the rest of the unwashed masses. :-)
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I was thinking the other day about how nice the 35mm/85mm/135mm combo is spread out between really useful focal lengths, but that collecting the whole set means a fair commitment to cash outlay.

Why not do the same thing on the cheap in APS-C?

38.4mm --> EF-S 24mm f2.8 STM pancake

80mm --> EF 50mm f1.8 STM

136mm --> EF 85mm F1.8 USM

Obviously there are sacrifices in build quality and speed, but what Unholy Trinity wouldn't embrace such compromise?  One still benefits enormously in sharpness and speed relative to zooms at the same price points.

Use these lenses with a 100D/SL1 body and you could carry everything in the pockets of your skinny jeans.

Canon EF-S 24mm F2.8 STM Canon EOS Rebel SL1 (EOS 100D)
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Great Bustard Forum Pro • Posts: 45,641
Re: An Unholy Trinity for the rest of the unwashed masses. :-)
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Phil Geusebroek wrote:

I was thinking the other day about how nice the 35mm/85mm/135mm combo is spread out between really useful focal lengths, but that collecting the whole set means a fair commitment to cash outlay.

Why not do the same thing on the cheap in APS-C?

38.4mm --> EF-S 24mm f2.8 STM pancake

80mm --> EF 50mm f1.8 STM

136mm --> EF 85mm F1.8 USM

Obviously there are sacrifices in build quality and speed, but what Unholy Trinity wouldn't embrace such compromise? One still benefits enormously in sharpness and speed relative to zooms at the same price points.

Use these lenses with a 100D/SL1 body and you could carry everything in the pockets of your skinny jeans.

Put that 85 / 1.8 in your front pocket of those skinny jeans and you'll make some friends real quick. 

maiaibing Veteran Member • Posts: 5,139
Re: An Unholy Trinity for the rest of the unwashed masses. :-)

Phil Geusebroek wrote:

I was thinking the other day about how nice the 35mm/85mm/135mm combo is spread out between really useful focal lengths, but that collecting the whole set means a fair commitment to cash outlay.

Why not do the same thing on the cheap in APS-C?

38.4mm --> EF-S 24mm f2.8 STM pancake

80mm --> EF 50mm f1.8 STM

136mm --> EF 85mm F1.8 USM

Obviously there are sacrifices in build quality and speed, but what Unholy Trinity wouldn't embrace such compromise? One still benefits enormously in sharpness and speed relative to zooms at the same price points.

Use these lenses with a 100D/SL1 body and you could carry everything in the pockets of your skinny jeans.

Looks like a great combo to me. Maybe consider the 45mm IS Tamron instead of the 50mm if your budget can square it.

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fishy wishy
fishy wishy Veteran Member • Posts: 9,358
Re: An Unholy Trinity for the rest of the unwashed masses. :-)

You will just get the equivalence trolls on your back telling you your lenses are only f3.2 or something.

OP Phil Geusebroek Contributing Member • Posts: 622
Re: An Unholy Trinity for the rest of the unwashed masses. :-)
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maiaibing wrote:

Phil Geusebroek wrote:

I was thinking the other day about how nice the 35mm/85mm/135mm combo is spread out between really useful focal lengths, but that collecting the whole set means a fair commitment to cash outlay.

Why not do the same thing on the cheap in APS-C?

38.4mm --> EF-S 24mm f2.8 STM pancake

80mm --> EF 50mm f1.8 STM

136mm --> EF 85mm F1.8 USM

Obviously there are sacrifices in build quality and speed, but what Unholy Trinity wouldn't embrace such compromise? One still benefits enormously in sharpness and speed relative to zooms at the same price points.

Use these lenses with a 100D/SL1 body and you could carry everything in the pockets of your skinny jeans.

Looks like a great combo to me. Maybe consider the 45mm IS Tamron instead of the 50mm if your budget can square it.

I think I'd put the extra into a 24mm f2.8 IS before the Tamron. The 38mm EFL is just ideal for snapping things, and IS really makes up for the slow wide end.

I really like IS on wide angles because you can stop down for landscape DOF in low light. F1.4 is dandy for freezing people but frustrating when you need f11 and 1/15 seconds. This is why that 35mm f2 IS is such a gemstone on full frame: it does both.

(If Canon sees fit to grant us a much-sharper-and-brighter-wide-open 50mm f1.4 IS USM with internal focusing and 67mm threads, I will be thrilled. Same goes for an 85mm f1.8 IS USM. Make them similar to the 35mm f2 IS and it will be a home run.)

ed rader Veteran Member • Posts: 9,068
no wide angle...

I think more experienced shooters will wide wide and UW.

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OP Phil Geusebroek Contributing Member • Posts: 622
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ed rader wrote:

I think more experienced shooters will wide wide and UW.

The point was to match the 'holy grail' 35/85/135mm focal lengths in sharp cheap lenses. This kit does that pretty well.

Ultra-wide and wide are beside the point, can be had in other lenses like the 10-22mm.

OP Phil Geusebroek Contributing Member • Posts: 622
Re: An Unholy Trinity for the rest of the unwashed masses. :-)

fishy wishy wrote:

You will just get the equivalence trolls on your back telling you your lenses are only f3.2 or something.

They have a point though.  If a big part of the FF grail is raw speed, then there is a compromise in going cheap. But that cost might be offset by cost, size and weight.

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