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Focus stacking of a snowflake

Started Feb 23, 2016 | Discussions
James A Rinner
James A Rinner Senior Member • Posts: 1,611
Focus stacking of a snowflake
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Olympus Focus Stacking Example, Snowflake 2016-013

Now I have been focus stacking for a while using a pair of film lenses mounted face to face (which resulted in 3.6:1 macro so I understand it pretty well.  I recently purchased a used E-M1 and 60mm macro lens to make my life easier when shooting extreme macro.  The snowflake above is about the same macro magnification as my manual setup because I added two extension tubes (16mm and 21mm, Movo brand, with M4/3 electrical contacts) to the 60mm Olympus macro lens.  Here is what I have found out so far:

  1. It is not as easy as you think!
  2. Because, at this high of a magnification, the area in focus is just a sliver and any movement can ruin the whole series of shots.
  3. I delete way more than I keep.
  4. A tripod is a waste of effort when doing snowflakes because by the time you finally get it set the snowflake either blows away or melts.
  5. I have been getting the same amount of keepers whether I used the camera's autofocus or found the start point by manual focus with a dedicated FN button to switch to manual.
  6. Using the camera's autofocus is a bit tricky because it could focus on the background, while the snowflake is a millimeter above it (held in position by the fibers of the background) and the whole series is out of focus.
  7. The photo above is a series of 12 exposures but I started with 30.  18 were so far out of focus that I just deleted them.  I try to start at a spot that is in front of the subject and hopefully by the end of the series I have traveled past the last bit of flake.
  8. Still took over 6 hours of Photoshop for the final image.

I think I will be able to eventually get the hang of this.  For my old manual film lens setup (see below) I machined a clear acrylic tube (lens shade?, not really!) to mount on the back of the Olympus 50mm 1.4.  The other lens is a Minolta Md 85mm 1.9.  The length of the tube set me at a sweet spot for focusing with the manual setup.  I hope to do the same soon with the 60mm macro.

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Giiba
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Simply amazing. How many snowflakes were melted in the making of this picture?

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doccy Regular Member • Posts: 359
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Very clever - looks awesome.

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WGHalvorsen
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The result of your monumental effort is beautiful. I look forward to hearing more about this.

/Bill

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Jim Salvas
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Re: Focus stacking of a snowflake
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Marvelous! I admire both the result and your dedication in achieving it.

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James A Rinner
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The shot below was with the manual lens setup.  It was a stackup of 50 shots!  This was a very big snowflake.  It was shot with the E-M5 and had to kept in my jacket between shots to keep the camera warm.  The E-M1 performed flawlessly out in the cold.

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I applaud your technique, dedication and stunning final result.  Not tpo mention the quarts of hot chocolate/coffee it must have taken to thaw the photographer out!!

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KTClown
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Does the Snow Flake Union know about this?

You done a very good job on this, nice photo.

Gary

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Mister Roboto
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Excellent, thanks for sharing!

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James A Rinner
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Re: Focus stacking of a snowflake

Funny...

Usually at least two hours standing outside, but with warm boots, flannel lined jeans, warm jacket and gloves!

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Thanks.  Not the best year for snowflakes though.  It has been plenty cold enough but the snow has been fragile.

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James A Rinner
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Re: Focus stacking of a snowflake

Thanks,

I have pretty busy this last year.  I think this is the first thread I have started in quite a while.

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Re: Focus stacking of a snowflake

I like your Wayne Gretzky quote!

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Re: Focus stacking of a snowflake

A lot of work but the end result is gorgeous!!!  Bonus is that you could do this hundreds of times and up with different images, all beautiful.

Andrew

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very impressive

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James A Rinner
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Thanks Gary

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James A Rinner wrote:

Olympus Focus Stacking Example, Snowflake 2016-013

Wow.  The (most welcome) technical details aside, this is indeed an amazing photo. Wow.

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James A. Rinner

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My pleasure!

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Simply exquisite!

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Ian Stuart Forsyth
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Very nice work I know what you are going through

I went a little different rout and built a bench similar to what you would think of as a microscope.

More info can be found here

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/56974730

The deck design allows me to level the flake to sensor to maximise DOF and easier to handle flake.

I would first capture the flake on a old lens filter and place it on the deck and use LV to level the flake ( a helpful hint is to use sugar or salt to pre level the deck in a warm house before hand)

My reward in finding the perfect snow flake

Insearch of the perfect flake

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