Sigma 30mm f/1.4 for M43!

http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-leaked-first-image-of-the-sigma-30mm-f1-4-micro-four-thirds-lens/

Sweet

Just ordered the 60mm 2.8 for my first Sigma. Hope the new 30mm will be as great as all the others.

Probably won't get it myself as I already have the Pan Leica 25mm 1.4 so too close of a focal length, but who knows.

Still, very very welcome.

Hope they would come out with some wide primes or a constant aperture zoom...

The 4/3rd version was great on my E-3

73x64mm and 265g. Pretty sure it's for APS-C. So on MFT, it should be very sharp corner to corner, with minimal to non-existent vignetting. Only slightly larger and heavier than PanaLeica 25/1.4. Not a bad proposition, if someone doesn't already have one of them standard primes.

Interestingly, it's a Contemporary, not Art. That would be a first prime in Sigma's contemporary line, right? Does that mark a start of a new line of lenses?

Anyway, I'm sure this will be very interesting for Sony E users... Is what I would write, if not for the fact that they have 35/1.8 OSS for $450 and Touit 32/1.8 for $700. 

Still, a very interesting development, if true.

Austrailshooter wrote:

Well I'm looking for a fast standard prime that doesn't have the issues of my Panasonic 20mm F/1.7 on an olympus body, if they bring out a 19mm F/1.4 I'd be sorely tempted given how attractively these lenses are normally priced.

Can't think of any other Olympus related problems with the 20mm.

BTW, has that been fixed for newer Oly's?

Astrotripper wrote:

73x64mm and 265g. Pretty sure it's for APS-C. So on MFT, it should be very sharp corner to corner, with minimal to non-existent vignetting. Only slightly larger and heavier than PanaLeica 25/1.4. Not a bad proposition, if someone doesn't already have one of them standard primes.

Interestingly, it's a Contemporary, not Art. That would be a first prime in Sigma's contemporary line, right? Does that mark a start of a new line of lenses?

Anyway, I'm sure this will be very interesting for Sony E users... Is what I would write, if not for the fact that they have 35/1.8 OSS for $450 and Touit 32/1.8 for $700.

Still, a very interesting development, if true.

As far as I know it was designed for mirrorless, so APS-C e-mount and MFT?

So smaller than normal APS-C but not as small as it can be I guess. Still, should be very good for us M43 users.

Oh, lol, didn't notice the Contemporary part. No idea what it means other than it being cheaper than the Art line I would think. Then again, the other Sigma lenses were dirt cheap so...

If they could make it a $200-250 lens, I would think it would be popular for both Sony and M43 users. Would be the fastest and cheapest lens out there for us no?

but would have thought a new M43 lens to get more interest specially considering the speed and the fact that most Sigma lenses so far have been really cheap while being really good.

peppermonkey wrote:

Astrotripper wrote:

Interestingly, it's a Contemporary, not Art. That would be a first prime in Sigma's contemporary line, right? Does that mark a start of a new line of lenses?

Oh, lol, didn't notice the Contemporary part. No idea what it means other than it being cheaper than the Art line I would think. Then again, the other Sigma lenses were dirt cheap so...

Well, the the current trio of DN primes is part of the Art line, despite being very cheap.

If they could make it a $200-250 lens, I would think it would be popular for both Sony and M43 users. Would be the fastest and cheapest lens out there for us no?

Unfortunately, the rumour suggests it will be ~400 EUR. Which still sounds like a decent price for a quality f/1.4 lens. Only at that price, if true, it will not be all that competitive with existing offerings available for MFT users. PanaLeica 25mm can be had for 450 EUR, 25/1.7 for less than half that, and Olympus 25/1.8 is somewhere in between. So that would pit the new Sigma directly against Leica branded Panasonic, which is smaller, lighter and has excellent reputation.

On Sony's end, it seems to be looking a bit better. However, Sony's 35/1.8 is stabilized, while this Sigma is probably not (unless I missed something, or it will turn up to have OIS). So not a clear cut winner here as well.

Well, I guess we'll see. Sigma has been pretty smart with their recent lens releases, so there's probably something to this lens that will make it more attractive.

Also for e-mount?

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-first-image-of-the-sigma-30mm-f1-4-native-e-mount-aps-c-lens/

Clearly, this was designed to sell with the A6300 to give it a solid f1.4 50mm prime. I sort of wished it was a 60mm f1.4, or a 19mm f1.4 (like the other sigma lenses for both APS-C and m43's) since, we are just not without choices in the 50mm equiv. focal lengths.

I agree that it's odd to say the least, but if the quality is up there with the 60mm f2.8, it will be very attractive to all those who aren't swayed by Oly's upcoming f1.2 lenses, which will all be priced I would say another 200-300 bucks more than these.

dmanthree wrote:

Same angle of view as a 60mm FF lens? That's really an oddball FL

Not really, 55mm and 58mm lenses were pretty common in the old days as standard primes (and still are). 60mm is not far off from that. And note that it also works for APS-C, where it translates to 45mm equivalent FoV, which I guess is a bit more odd, but not really. Especially for Sigma, which used it as a standard FL for their dp2 cameras for quite some time now.

So basically, that's a focal length that on both formats can still be considered "normal", only on opposite ends of it. A bit unusual, sure, but nothing really that much out of the ordinary. It's probably the most universal lens they could release for both systems, so they start with it.

The rest is a matter of personal preference.

Astrotripper wrote:

dmanthree wrote:

Same angle of view as a 60mm FF lens? That's really an oddball FL

Not really, 55mm and 58mm lenses were pretty common in the old days as standard primes (and still are). 60mm is not far off from that. And note that it also works for APS-C, where it translates to 45mm equivalent FoV, which I guess is a bit more odd, but not really. Especially for Sigma, which used it as a standard FL for their dp2 cameras for quite some time now.

So basically, that's a focal length that on both formats can still be considered "normal", only on opposite ends of it. A bit unusual, sure, but nothing really that much out of the ordinary. It's probably the most universal lens they could release for both systems, so they start with it.

The rest is a matter of personal preference.

Along those lines, I have read that for the MFT 4:3 format, that the Panny 20mm is pretty close to normal (actually ~23mm) for more square format where for the 2:3 proportioned APS-C format and 27 or 28 mm for the APS-C (depending on which APS-C type sensor we are talking) image format

Apparently "normal" is also defined by , frame diagonal and proportions so for the FF (135 film) 43mm was closer to normal, but 50-55 and 58 became the norm, not sure why exactly.  Might have been easier to design or it was just the custom established by Leica?

Johnny The Greek wrote:

I agree that it's odd to say the least, but if the quality is up there with the 60mm f2.8, it will be very attractive to all those who aren't swayed by Oly's upcoming f1.2 lenses, which will all be priced I would say another 200-300 bucks more than these.

if the Oly's are north of $1000USD (or close to it), while the Sigmas being south of $400. At those prices, the Sigma's may be very attractive, specially if it's cheaper than the Pan Leica 25mm.

Astrotripper wrote:

dmanthree wrote:

Same angle of view as a 60mm FF lens? That's really an oddball FL

Not really, 55mm and 58mm lenses were pretty common in the old days as standard primes (and still are). 60mm is not far off from that. And note that it also works for APS-C, where it translates to 45mm equivalent FoV, which I guess is a bit more odd, but not really. Especially for Sigma, which used it as a standard FL for their dp2 cameras for quite some time now.

So basically, that's a focal length that on both formats can still be considered "normal", only on opposite ends of it. A bit unusual, sure, but nothing really that much out of the ordinary. It's probably the most universal lens they could release for both systems, so they start with it.

The rest is a matter of personal preference.

the quality of the lenses on the Sigma DP2 cameras...I may get it even though I have the Pan Leica 1.4 already. Just got the original DP2 just for kicks and whatever you say about the camera, the lens is an absolute stunner! Starting to make me want a modern DP1/2 for real...

peppermonkey wrote:

Astrotripper wrote:

And note that it also works for APS-C, where it translates to 45mm equivalent FoV, which I guess is a bit more odd, but not really. Especially for Sigma, which used it as a standard FL for their dp2 cameras for quite some time now.

the quality of the lenses on the Sigma DP2 cameras...I may get it even though I have the Pan Leica 1.4 already. Just got the original DP2 just for kicks and whatever you say about the camera, the lens is an absolute stunner! Starting to make me want a modern DP1/2 for real...

I have a DP2 Merrill, and I actually really like the camera. It is a very simple device, but also very well designed, in my opinion. It also has the best shutter button I have ever used on any camera. Ever. It was almost painful getting back to my OM-D. And image quality is simply stunning. And I can forgive a lot of the quirks that camera has. It's perfectly fine for people that are not in a hurry. It's just that using Sigma's software to process RAWs is a bit too much pain

As for it's lens, I don't like how it render OOF backgrounds. Sometimes, it really is just plain ugly. It is speculated that the 30/2.8 DN lens is a variant of the dp2 lens. That kinda makes sense, but I'm not sure how much truth there is to it.

This 30mm is going to be a completely new design for sure.

Just noticed this announcement on 43rumors. Very excited! Hope it will be priced competitively like other m43 Sigma lenses after some time post-release.  $460 is okay but bit much for my current budget.  Eventually I might get one!