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Really recommended - Stepped up from E-PL5

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WendelWLU New Member • Posts: 24
Really recommended - Stepped up from E-PL5
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Having owned the E-PL5 for a while now with the 14-42mm and 40-150mm I felt that it was time to step up a little. I recently bought the VF-4 for my E-PL5 for a very good price (debundled) and I liked that a lot already.

However my attention was drawn to the new PEN-F which I immediately liked but the price....hmhmh..too much for me at the moment. Even I knew the PEN E-P5 was already an older horse in the staple it still had a lot going for it and so I purchased the body alone new for around 400 Euros which seemed ok for me.

I also added the 12-50mm lens (previously bundled with the E-M5) which I got new for only 100 Euros. I like this lens as it offers either electronic zoom or manual zoom and has a nice Macro function. Surely not a light monster but still usable for the price. Plus I must have gotten a good copy as I am totally satisifed.

Back to the E-P5. After having updated to latest FW 1.7 I was ready to go and together with the VF-4 I really appreciate this combo. It is fast & responsive. It delivers good quality (sufficient for me) and it has (Olympus) nice colors straight out of the box.

I wish I could adjust the VF-4 on the E-P5 in terms of brightness/contrast/color but think it is not possible. Only the viewfinder can be adjusted. Maybe I am just to blind to find the setting.

The dual control wheels on the E-P5 are just a godsend and extremely usable. That in conjunction with the 2 way lever one can control 4 parameters (e.g. speed/aperture/ISO/WB) in a very quick way without having to go down to any menu or sub-sub menu.

Plus the solid feel of it is very nice. Very substantial. And yes that 5-axis image stabilizer makes me feel now the E-PL5 never had a stabilizer at all ;-). This is truly amazing. Some quick video sessions really showed its effectiveness. Sure video could be better on the E-P5 in terms of bitrates and e.g. EU scanrates of 25 or 50. But then I am not a video maker and for the occasional use it is sufficient for me. Also welcome is the recently added (via FW) zero second antishock.

All in all full satisfaction would be my statement.

I briefly thought about a Sony A-6000 and even looked at the new A-6300 but then again as a previous user of a Sony NEX and A57 (which I licked a lot) I never really got away with the need for the massive lenses one needs for any given APS-C format. Plus I was never so fond of the Sony menu. Just a personal preference I reckon. This is not to say that the Olympus has an easy menu system. In fact it is very complicated but allows massive customisation. Important for an Oly is the number of external controls so not to dive daily into the menu system. And there the E-P5 really shines for me. Not so the E-PLx series. Even not the E-PL7.

I might along the line even step up to the professional line of Olympus lenses though they are quite expensive. But then again a good lense costs always more than the camera.

I could have gotten an OMD EM 10 or the MkII version of it but not for the price. And I like that I can detach the VF-4 if not needed plus the built in flash of the E-P5. Only thing really missing is a MIC port (though one can add a special MIC there via the Oly port but then can no longer use the VF-4...hmhm cannot have all.

That Panasonic alternative never occured to me. Had previous Pana's incl. the G6 but never really got to licke them as much to be a keeper. They all had their qualities for sure but I feel the E-P5 even today is still a very nice workhorse and delivers consistent results.

Olympus PEN E-P5
16 megapixels • 3 screen • Four Thirds sensor
Announced: May 10, 2013
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Denisio Fabuloso
Denisio Fabuloso Regular Member • Posts: 386
Re: Really recommended - Stepped up from E-PL5

Concur with most of that. I have the same setup including the terrific VF4. I noticed the same noticeable step up when I moved up from the EPL-5... which BTW is still a terrific little camera. My most used lens is the 25mm 1.8. I hope you don't get the dreaded dial problem (which Olympus deny is an issue) that I've experienced a lot of.

'To live outside the law you've got to be honest'. R. Zimmerman.

cameron2 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,142
Re: Really recommended - Stepped up from E-PL5
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WendelWLU wrote:

I briefly thought about a Sony A-6000 and even looked at the new A-6300 but then again as a previous user of a Sony NEX and A57 (which I licked a lot)

I hope you can still edit your post, because the A57 wasn't that tasty

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Guy Parsons
Guy Parsons Forum Pro • Posts: 40,000
Viewfinder

WendelWLU wrote:

I wish I could adjust the VF-4 on the E-P5 in terms of brightness/contrast/color but think it is not possible. Only the viewfinder can be adjusted. Maybe I am just to blind to find the setting.

Try the Accessory Menu, you may need to turn it on in the Setup Menu. http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~parsog/olyepl1/56-ep5-custom-menus.html#port

All in all full satisfaction would be my statement.

Ditto. Peace at last in camera terms, it will keep me very happy until global shutters arrive and proved to be OK.

In my case came from E-PL5 where the most used lens was the 12-40/2.8, put it on the E-P5 and now I see better results overall. I put that down to the 0 second anti-shock and the 5 axis IBIS.

I never use my VF-2 any more, I like the freedom of using the screen only, despite being hard to see at times.

Regards..... Guy

Day Hiker Forum Pro • Posts: 10,829
a dandy of a camera

When all is working well, the E-P5 is still hard to beat almost three years after its introduction. I enjoy mine thoroughly, now that dials seem no longer to be a problem.

Put some premium glass on it and enjoy the image quality even more!

Jim Pilcher
Summit County, Colorado, USA
Life is good in the woods

OP WendelWLU New Member • Posts: 24
Re: Really recommended - Stepped up from E-PL5

Haha..that one was good. My brain & typing are sometimes off.

However can no longer edit thus consider myself an ex-A57 licker  

OP WendelWLU New Member • Posts: 24
Re: Viewfinder

Guy, thank you so much for the VF-4 menu link. Even with that I had a few problems as first the menu has to made available and then changes can be made.

Those Olympus FW engineers and their logic.  

OP WendelWLU New Member • Posts: 24
Re: a dandy of a camera

Thanks Jim,

indeed better glas it deserves. I'll first see what my preference over some time to come will be and then will decide what lenses to obtain. I am not really a lens collector and given  some prices for good glas a decision with some solid usage data I will make.

Day Hiker Forum Pro • Posts: 10,829
my favorite lenses

For everyday use, my favorite lenses are the Leica 25mm f/1.4 and the M.Zuiko 12mm f/2. Many (most?) rave about the M.Zuiko 45mm f/1.8 (which I own) as the no-brainer lens purchase but I'm much more of a wide to normal shooter. My absolute favorite 4/3 lens was the ZD 11-22mm f/2.8-3.5.

Good luck with your E-P5. It's a good step up from any other Pen.

Jim Pilcher
Summit County, Colorado, USA
Life is good in the woods

OP WendelWLU New Member • Posts: 24
Re: my favorite lenses

Thanks James,

I just hope & pray (because i got interested about this previously reported dial problem) that I will not hit the same thing one day. Being an engineer I know things go wrong sometimes. But I also know that many things can be eliminated with good quality control.

But i will not ready any deeper into this matter otherwise I'll jazz up worries I haven't had so far. That's the thing of a forum. Nice to learn other views, good & bad but sometimes too much.

Of course Olympus like any other camera manufacturer should have their act together but then again we are the beta testers by all means. 

OP WendelWLU New Member • Posts: 24
Re: Really recommended - Stepped up from E-PL5

Now after some time of usage (though I am not neww to µ43) my E-P5 and VF4 have somehow grown on me.

fw53photo
fw53photo Regular Member • Posts: 140
Re: my favorite lenses

WendelWLU wrote:

I just hope & pray (because i got interested about this previously reported dial problem) that I will not hit the same thing one day. . .

Just know there are a lot of E-P5 owners like myself that have had ZERO problems with the dials. I do handle my gear carefully, though, so that could contribute to my success. I did get it about 1.5 years ago & have traveled quit a bit with it. Its also my daily carry camera so its not really babied, either.

I know its not an inexpensive lens by any means, but, the 12-40mm ƒ/2.8 is an amazing companion to the E-P5. (& probably any m43 camera!) After that, pick specific lenses to fit your wants/needs. I didn't get the 12-40mm when I picked up my E-P5 at B&H but soon added it to my kit. It will seem big at first on the PEN but with good hand-holding technique, & 5-axis IBIS, it won't take long to get the most out of that combo.

Take care,

Frank

Travis Butler
Travis Butler Senior Member • Posts: 1,984
Re: a dandy of a camera

WendelWLU wrote:

Thanks Jim,

indeed better glas it deserves. I'll first see what my preference over some time to come will be and then will decide what lenses to obtain. I am not really a lens collector and given some prices for good glas a decision with some solid usage data I will make.

I grabbed an EP-5 recently as part of the closeout, and at this point looks like it's going to replace my E-M10. Yay?

So far, the lens I've used the most with it is the Panny 20mm/1.7 vII, and I'm happy with the results:

Might just be me, but I can't help feeling the vII is a little crisper than the original 20mm:

The Lumix 25mm/1.7 isn't bad either, especially at the $99 I stole it at:

I've even been pleasantly surprised with one of those $80 Wesley 34mm/1.7 lenses off of eBay:

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KTClown
KTClown Senior Member • Posts: 1,461
Re: Stepped up from E-PL5- I hope to step up soon.

#2 is a nice shot, who's the old guy in #1?

I have a PL-5 and waiting to upgrade, but haven't decided which camera? Been enjoying the lighter weight of the 4/3's gear. I used to lug around a DSLR Fuji and a XZ-1 Olympus for a back up, I like the little XZ-1 for quick shots and it did a better job than the Fuji.

My choices right now are GX8, OMD-5II or cheaper price wise is the OMD-10II. Meanwhile I'll keep reading the posts and plan on buying this spring.

I also have the 12-50 Oly lens, couldn't afford the 12-40 Oly lens, and the 12-50 does real good on landscapes. My opinion.

Gary

Pueblo, CO

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OP WendelWLU New Member • Posts: 24
Re: Stepped up from E-PL5- I hope to step up soon.

KTClown wrote:

#2 is a nice shot, who's the old guy in #1?

I have a PL-5 and waiting to upgrade, but haven't decided which camera? Been enjoying the lighter weight of the 4/3's gear. I used to lug around a DSLR Fuji and a XZ-1 Olympus for a back up, I like the little XZ-1 for quick shots and it did a better job than the Fuji.

My choices right now are GX8, OMD-5II or cheaper price wise is the OMD-10II. Meanwhile I'll keep reading the posts and plan on buying this spring.

I also have the 12-50 Oly lens, couldn't afford the 12-40 Oly lens, and the 12-50 does real good on landscapes. My opinion.

Gary

Pueblo, CO

Yep I feel #2 is a shot I made quite nicely. The later afternoon hours in Sweden were the sun sets quite early.

#1: That "old guy" is me damn it! Don't worry you'll get there too one day Besides that was a Selfie done with my smartphone...

Do you mean you have the E-PL5? In htat case I ould really advise to get the E-P5. It truly comes like a revelation. A complete different handling thus way better control whilst shooting and maybe in the end better composition (at least that's what I need the VF-4 for - as I am old my eyes aren't that sharp any loner and looking at a small screen too much distance I need - Even with sliding view glases).

I also thought about the OMD-10II but then I really liked that I do not always need the VF-4 pernanently mounted. And oh yes indeed for more to street level photography and waist level photography I really like the 90° tilt of the VF-4.

The 12-50mm is in my view some reasonable glass. However it defies a bit the purpose of compactness as it is quite long. It's just I like its selectable E-Zoom and M-Zoom and Macro mode. Plus it really runs a smooth e-zoom for Video. However this is not a pro lens and I know that.

I look at it this way. The E-PL5 (still have it) is very light weight and compact ... but ...I have been shooting recently whilst donig a small work tour in Sweden. It is really cold here and gloves are a must. I could not have handled the E-PL5 like that. But it was very well possible with the E-P5. In the end go and try out your Olympus model you wish to buy. Handle it and see how it fits your hand. We are all a bit different and certainly have different preferences.

But if you can find an E-P5 body nicely priced go get it. You will not regret it. Always can step up later to e-m5 II etc....

KTClown
KTClown Senior Member • Posts: 1,461
Re: Stepped up from E-PL5- I hope to step up soon.

WendelWLU wrote:

KTClown wrote:

#2 is a nice shot, who's the old guy in #1?

I have a PL-5 and waiting to upgrade, but haven't decided which camera? Been enjoying the lighter weight of the 4/3's gear. I used to lug around a DSLR Fuji and a XZ-1 Olympus for a back up, I like the little XZ-1 for quick shots and it did a better job than the Fuji.

My choices right now are GX8, OMD-5II or cheaper price wise is the OMD-10II. Meanwhile I'll keep reading the posts and plan on buying this spring.

I also have the 12-50 Oly lens, couldn't afford the 12-40 Oly lens, and the 12-50 does real good on landscapes. My opinion.

Gary

Pueblo, CO

Yep I feel #2 is a shot I made quite nicely. The later afternoon hours in Sweden were the sun sets quite early.

#1: That "old guy" is me damn it! Don't worry you'll get there too one day Besides that was a Selfie done with my smartphone...

Do you mean you have the E-PL5? In htat case I ould really advise to get the E-P5. It truly comes like a revelation. A complete different handling thus way better control whilst shooting and maybe in the end better composition (at least that's what I need the VF-4 for - as I am old my eyes aren't that sharp any loner and looking at a small screen too much distance I need - Even with sliding view glases).

I also thought about the OMD-10II but then I really liked that I do not always need the VF-4 pernanently mounted. And oh yes indeed for more to street level photography and waist level photography I really like the 90° tilt of the VF-4.

The 12-50mm is in my view some reasonable glass. However it defies a bit the purpose of compactness as it is quite long. It's just I like its selectable E-Zoom and M-Zoom and Macro mode. Plus it really runs a smooth e-zoom for Video. However this is not a pro lens and I know that.

I look at it this way. The E-PL5 (still have it) is very light weight and compact ... but ...I have been shooting recently whilst donig a small work tour in Sweden. It is really cold here and gloves are a must. I could not have handled the E-PL5 like that. But it was very well possible with the E-P5. In the end go and try out your Olympus model you wish to buy. Handle it and see how it fits your hand. We are all a bit different and certainly have different preferences.

But if you can find an E-P5 body nicely priced go get it. You will not regret it. Always can step up later to e-m5 II etc....

Thanks for the reply, I'm already here; retired and soon to be 69. Lots of choices in cameras these days. I'm in no rush, you have a good day.

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